Wolfman WR2 Head Discussion

I have arrived 'late to the party', meaning this thread, and starting from the OP read every post. Somewhere in that melange someone who seems to know what he is talking about compared the shave characteristics of WR-1 gaps to those of the WR-2. I have the WR-1 in .61 OC & SB, the .74 in DC, and the .86 in OC. I prefer the larger gaps, but find I get great shaves from either of the .61s.

So what I'm not getting is how a WR-2 @ .95 can be 'mild', with little blade feel, and people are going all the way up to 1.25 ? I'm assuming a comparable feel between the WR-1 and WR-2. I suppose the difference stems from the geometry of the head ?

I don't know if I'll ever get lucky enough to score a WR-2 directly from James. All of my Wolfman acquisitions have been from ebay. I did get a Guerrilla SB direct, and it is, as y'all know, an effective if mild shaver. I suppose if I was going to choose I'd for for a 1.15 as a compromise.

Anyhow, keep the thread going, best Wolfman thread I've come across on any forum.

Welcome, and congrats for reading the whole thread!

I'm no razor designer, just a user, but I think head geometry and exposure cause the WR2 to have less blade feel...even though it has a larger gap.

When you say you assume they have comparable feel, we talking face feel or blade feel? Blade feel is night and day different with the WR1 having it in spades.

The WR1 head smooths out with gap, you can likely tell your 86 is smoother than your 74...or, it's at least "just as" smooth. And the 94 is slightly smoother than the 86. It's weird and doesn't make sense...but it's true. When I first noticed it, I started mailing the Razors out to "friends" so I could get their feedback. ShaveFoo agreed and continues to push the narrative, so it must be true.

Face feel is different. The WR1 is a smooth shaver but the WR2 is better and does it with less blade feel. Even with a 135 gap, on the ATG pass, you can play with the angle and lose the blade complete...or maintain it. It's kinda fun playing with the angles on a 135.

In short, don't just look at similar gaps and think they are the same. Vastly different shavers. Which is best will just be personal preference.

The 115 should shave a smidge late less efficient than an .80WR1. the 125 slightly more efficient than the 86.

Hope this helps.

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WR2 SB 1.25, polished, WRH7 hollow...

If I am correct, you have had a WTB for a WR2 and offered some pretty awesome gear in trade.

If that's you, I'm stoked you got to order your own!

In any case, it will be interesting to hear your thoughts on the razor, but especially the hollow 7. In particular how a hollow 7 balances with the heavier WR2 head.

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Hahaha, yes you are correct. I have ad in WTB section, but I am still looking for another WM (1.35 Ti) razor ...

I had on loan WR2 head from one great member here and I was really impressed ... Due to I put to WTB section that ad ... This is (WR2 SB 1.25) an excellent razor, one of best if not best what I tried ... I owned also WR2 SB .95, but this was too mild to my tastes.

I tried that WR2 with standart 90mm WRH7 (72g), WRH2 (94g) and UFO Titan Fine L (63g) and found, I am more satisfied with lighter handle. Hollow WRH7 has 40g, so we will see.

Dang it's nice to have shave friends to share gear with! Some good dudes around here. Be careful tho, some bloke loaned out a 17-4 and the razor got "lost". I've been fortunate. My razor came back dirty one time. In all the shipping, one dirty razor. I can live with that. I may not know much, but I can certainly clean a dirty razor.

I agree...the 125 is a great razor. I'ma broken record, I like them all for various reasons.

During my chat with my best friend, DuFour, yesterday he did mention this little nugget.

"I'm ordering more titanium which I'll offer in a few weeks, but until then it's just stainless."

That is likely as close to an actual drop date heads up as you'll ever get.

So...stay at it my friend. Ti should show up soon and you can grab that 135!

Others may also note, if they are observant, that even my "bestie" status does not mean I have free reign of his shop! Typically I don't bother him with side questions but just had to know about a 145....and there is no way in hell I order that monster in SS. That fact, in itself, lead to quite a discussion. He seems to think SS is better for "experimenting" with off the menu custom gaps. It's quite and odd experience explaining your logic/performance analysis to the "Master" on his own heads. Damned fun tho.

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If I am correct, you have had a WTB for a WR2 and offered some pretty awesome gear in trade.

If that's you, I'm stoked you got to order your own!

In any case, it will be interesting to hear your thoughts on the razor, but especially the hollow 7. In particular how a hollow 7 balances with the heavier WR2 head.

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Hahaha, yes you are correct. I have ad in WTB section, but I am still looking for another WM (1.35 Ti) razor ...

I had on loan WR2 head from one great member here and I was really impressed ... Due to I put to WTB section that ad ... This is (WR2 SB 1.25) an excellent razor, one of best if not best what I tried ... I owned also WR2 SB .95, but this was too mild to my tastes.

I tried that WR2 with standart 90mm WRH7 (72g), WRH2 (94g) and UFO Titan Fine L (63g) and found, I am more satisfied with lighter handle. Hollow WRH7 has 40g, so we will see.

Dang it's nice to have shave friends to share gear with! Some good dudes around here. Be careful tho, some bloke loaned out a 17-4 and the razor got "lost".  I've been fortunate. My razor came back dirty one time. In all the shipping, one dirty razor. I can live with that. I may not know much, but I can certainly clean a dirty razor.

I agree...the 125 is a great razor. I'ma broken record, I like them all for various reasons.

During my chat with my best friend, DuFour, yesterday he did mention this little nugget.

"I'm ordering more titanium which I'll offer in a few weeks, but until then it's just stainless."

That is likely as close to an actual drop date heads up as you'll ever get.

So...stay at it my friend. Ti should show up soon and you can grab that 135!

Others may also note, if they are observant, that even my "bestie" status does not mean I have free reign of his shop! Typically I don't bother him with side questions but just had to know about a 145....and there is no way in hell I order that monster in SS. That fact, in itself, lead to quite a discussion. He seems to think SS is better for "experimenting" with off the menu custom gaps.  It's quite and odd experience explaining your logic/performance analysis to the "Master" on his own heads. Damned fun tho.

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Thank you my friend. Thanks God for such friends. I noticed issue with 17-4 but don´t know who is person who lost 17-4 razor or even if he is member of our community. I returned razor without any problems and we are still friends with member who loaned me that WR2.

This is also great news for me, Ti will be available soon!

A while ago, I bought a WR1 head with 0.80SB/0.74OC and it's been just sublime.

Dumb rookie question....when you view such a plate with different gaps on either side,
does one side appear higher than the other? I just can't figure out how he does this.

And why he doesn't offer different gaps on both sides purely in SB or OC (with a mark
to identify them).

I tried checking just now because I never thought to do so, but I can't really tell, even with a 10x loupe. 0.74 and 0.80 might just be so close to each other that it's imperceptible. I do think you're right, however, because I don't understand how he'd do it otherwise.

EDIT: I also tried looking at my other DC head that's 0.67/0.67 and tried comparing it with this DC head. It all looks the same to me. Maybe I'm just blind. They do feel different when shaving, though.

Thanks for lending an eye, Tragique.

I get the feeling that when the gaps on either side are consecutive, then maybe
one doesn't notice.

Don't know it it would be the same if the gaps were quite spaced apart....say, a 86SB and a 61OC.

i changed my order from 1.25 oc/1.15 sb to 1.25oc/1.05 sb. my neck is sensitive so I figure the 1.05 SB may play nice there

i changed my order from 1.25 oc/1.15 sb to 1.25oc/1.05 sb. my neck is sensitive so I figure the 1.05 SB may play nice there

That’ll be an interesting setup. It crossed my mind the other day why we don’t see larger differences between the sides when folks order split gaps. Considering how difficult these razors can be to acquire, I wonder why we don’t see folks ordering DCs with one very efficient side, like a 1.25, and one very mild side, like a 0.95, essentially giving two different razors in one.

i changed my order from 1.25 oc/1.15 sb to 1.25oc/1.05 sb. my neck is sensitive so I figure the 1.05 SB may play nice there

That’ll be an interesting setup. It crossed my mind the other day why we don’t see larger differences between the sides when folks order split gaps. Considering how difficult these razors can be to acquire, I wonder why we don’t see folks ordering DCs with one very efficient side, like a 1.25, and one very mild side, like a 0.95, essentially giving two different razors in one.

That's kind of my other thought. I can use the 1.05 SB side on my neck and maybe see less irritation, but I can also use it on days when maybe the 1.25 OC side might be too much (or my wr1 .86 OC). It is basically an aggressive wr2 OC and a medium wr2 SB in one

i changed my order from 1.25 oc/1.15 sb to 1.25oc/1.05 sb. my neck is sensitive so I figure the 1.05 SB may play nice there

That’ll be an interesting setup. It crossed my mind the other day why we don’t see larger differences between the sides when folks order split gaps. Considering how difficult these razors can be to acquire, I wonder why we don’t see folks ordering DCs with one very efficient side, like a 1.25, and one very mild side, like a 0.95, essentially giving two different razors in one.

That's kind of my other thought. I can use the 1.05 SB side on my neck and maybe see less irritation, but I can also use it on days when maybe the 1.25 OC side might be too much (or my wr1 .86 OC). It is basically an aggressive wr2 OC and a medium wr2 SB in one

i changed my order from 1.25 oc/1.15 sb to 1.25oc/1.05 sb. my neck is sensitive so I figure the 1.05 SB may play nice there

That’ll be an interesting setup. It crossed my mind the other day why we don’t see larger differences between the sides when folks order split gaps. Considering how difficult these razors can be to acquire, I wonder why we don’t see folks ordering DCs with one very efficient side, like a 1.25, and one very mild side, like a 0.95, essentially giving two different razors in one.

That's kind of my other thought. I can use the 1.05 SB side on my neck and maybe see less irritation, but I can also use it on days when maybe the 1.25 OC side might be too much (or my wr1 .86 OC). It is basically an aggressive wr2 OC and a medium wr2 SB in one

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the SS125OC. You like the 86OC then? You tried other OC WR2s?

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Cant speak for anything above 1.15 at the moment but this head design and gap are very kind to the neck area.
There's no tugging which results in irritation, redness. Possibly a function of how firmly the blade is held.