(09-02-2023, 01:09 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: (09-01-2023, 11:58 PM)mrdoug Wrote: (09-01-2023, 11:18 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Ok guys here is how you can tell the newest F Base from the original. Look at the highlighted ingredients and yes they are all adding skin benefits to the shave soap beyond what was in the original F Base which honestly I never had a problem with of any kind and I have used many many Shave soaps and Shave creams throughout this 20 plus year journey including all the samples people send me samples of the latest and greatest all the time so I have a lot of Shave Soaps & Creme's to compare to. With that said as technology in skincare moves forward that's when I make tweeks to the bases. So below is a ingredient list from Rosa and Vetiver which are in the latest/newest F Base along with 2 others. Sandalo Artistico and even before that one of the original F Base Shave Soaps, Fresco. Sandalo was newer than Fresco with some improvements as rocket mentioned. The ingredients that make the most difference in skin benefits in this newest F Base formula are the ones highlighted in Red. I have made some other tweeks in percentages and I also vary in some of the butters and oils I use and that sometimes depends on the Aroma Blend I'm using. In this case you'll see a lot of Rose based ingredients like Rose Butter in there for example whereas in another F Base you may see Orange butter ( it's a natural substitute for Lanolin FYI ) or other butters or oils etc. I have a little case of OCD when it comes to ingredients and while most people are sleeping part of my sleep time is taken up by me in my bed, on my phone looking up ingredients as well as natural Aromatics.
Here is the ingredient list for Sandalo Artistico below and like rocket mentioned it was the first F Base that was modified by using some newer versions of some ingredients but mostly percentages of ingredients. So it was the first modified F Base since the release of some of the originals like Fresco for example and shown below in the ingredients list. Since Sandalo there have been even more tweek's as seen in the Rosa ingredient list above and the soon to be released Vetiver F Base below.
1st Gen F Base
Fresco: Ingredients: Aloe Vera Juice, Stearic Acid, Grass Fed Beef Tallow, Duck Fat, Organic Shea Butter, Castor Oil, Shea Butter, Kokum Butter, Mango Butter, Organic Vegetable Glycerin, Potassium Stearate, Sheep Milk, Coconut Milk, Sodium Hydroxide, Grass Fed Bison Tallow, Argan Oil, Apricot Kernel, Kukui Nut Oil, Organic Sicilian Lime Distilled Essential Oil, Fresh Lime/Fresh Basil Infusion, EOS Complex, Allantoin, Oat Amino Acids, Silk Amino Acids, Soy/Rice Peptides, Organic Spearmint Essential Oil, Sorbitol, Organic Vitamin E Oil, Sodium Lactate, Xanthan Gum, Lanolin, Guava Fruit Powder Extract, Lonicera Capritolin (Natural Preservative) Calendula Extract, Aloe Vera Extract, Comfrey Extract, Milk Thistle Extract.
2nd Gen F Base
Sandalo Artistico : Ingredients: Aloe Vera Juice, Stearic Acid, Grass Fed Beef Tallow, Duck Fat, Organic Shea Butter, Castor Oil, Cocoa Butter, Kokum Butter, Mango Butter, Organic Glycerin, Potassium Stearate, Sheep Milk, Coconut Milk, Sodium Hydroxide, Grass Fed Bison Tallow, Argan Oil, Apricot Kernel Oil, Kukui Nut Oil, Organic East Indian Sandalwood Essential Oil, Mysore Sandalwood Accord, Mysoral Sandalwood Accord, Jasmine Grandiflorum Absolute Oil, Vintage 1960 Mysore Sandalwood Essential Oil, Benzoin Resin Oil, Orris Butter Resin 10%, Myrrh Essential Oil, EOS Complex, Allantoin, Oat Amino Acids, Silk Amino Acids, Soy/Rice Peptides, Sorbitol, Organic Vitamin E Oil, Sodium Lactate, Xanthan Gum, Lanolin, Capritolin (Natural Preservative) Calendula Extract, Aloe Vera Extract, Comfrey Extract, Milk Thistle Extract, Chamomile Extract.
3rd Gen F Base
Rosa : Ingredients: Aloe Vera Juice, Organic Bulgarian Rose De Mai Hydrosol, Grass Fed Whipped Beef Tallow, Stearic Acid, Castor Oil, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Oil, Myristic Acid, Potassium Sorbate, Organic Shea Butter, Organic Illipe Nut Butter, Organic Rose Butter, Organic Vegetable Glycerin, Sheep Milk, Coconut Milk, Sodium Hydroxide, Ostrich Oil, Rosehip Oil, Organic Bulgarian Red Rose Damask Essential Oil, Organic Bulgarian White Rose Essential Oil, Organic Rose Extract CO2, Organic Rose Distillate, EOS Complex, Allantoin, Organic Rose Damask Absolute, Oat Amino Acids, Silk Amino Acids, Soy/Rice Peptides, Sorbitol, Organic Vitamin E 50 Oil, Sodium Lactate, Ceramide Complex, Hyaluronic Acid Oil, Liquid Lanolin, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Sorbic Acid, Comfrey Extract, Rose Hip Extract, Calendula Extract, White Willow Bark Extract, Aloe Vera Extract, Milk Thistle Extract, Chamomile Extract, Capritolin (Natural Preservative).
3rd Gen F Base
Vetivert: Ingredients: Aloe Vera Juice, Stearic Acid, Grass Fed Beef Tallow, Duck Fat, Organic Shea Butter, Castor Oil, Cocoa Butter, Kokum Butter, Cupuacu Butter, Organic Glycerin, Potassium Stearate, Sheep Milk, Camel Milk, Sodium Hydroxide, Grass Fed Bison Tallow, Argan Oil, Organic Avocado Oil, Kukui Nut Oil, Essential Oils of Italian Bergamot, Yellow Mandarin, Green Mandarin, Italian Blood Orange, Clary Sage, Organic Ginger, Organic Double Distilled Haitian Vetiver, Organic Madagascar Vétivert, Organic Petitgrain, Violet Leaf Absolute, Australian Sandalwood Oil, Ostrich Oil, EOS Complex, Allantoin, Oat Amino Acids, Silk Amino Acids, Soy/Rice Peptides, Hyaluronic Acid Oil, Hydrolyzed Collagen Protein, Organic Vitamin E ET - 50 Oil, Sodium Lactate, Xanthan Gum, Lanolin, Comfrey Extract, Calendula Extract, Aloe Vera Extract, Organic Viola Odorata Extract, Milk Thistle Extract, Chamomile Extract, Capritolin (Natural Preservative).
NOTE:
The Comfrey Extract that's in both the Vetivert and the Rosa are not the same as what's in the other two. It is a brand new much more complex ingredient with some really long words so I asked if Comfrey Extract could be used and FDA approved from the ingredient company that I get if from and they said yes. So it's a little bombshell of great Skin Beneficial ingredients and I'll be doing a write up on a lot of the new ingredients I"m working with currently in my products after I get caught up.
Hope this clears things up on the F Bases.
Have a great holiday weekend everyone!
Frank
Sorry Frank, it was my fault opening that 'can of worms'. I was only wondering if Lanolin was still in the F-base, as I won't use any Lanolin soaps.
Checking all of the listings you posted, it is definitely there. That answers my question.
Again, I didn't mean to create a stir. Appreciate the details, though. I hope you have a great weekend as well.
Hello mrdoug
I’m just curious what is the reason you won’t use a soap with Lanolin in it? Do you have an allergy to it? Like I mentioned Orange Butter is an Alternative I’ve used in a couple of my soaps and I’ve been giving it thought to do an experiment with a soap not using lanolin and would like to compare the performance. Maybe you could test one for me.
let me know.
enjoy the holiday weekend.
Hey Frank. I'm not 100% sure, honestly. Over the years I've experienced so many bad shaves. Sometimes I could tell the scent ingredients were the culprit, other times it didn't make sense.
My skin got worse and really doubled down in the past year when I started taking some new medicine. So, I did a complete shutdown and kicked both Lanolin as well as scents out. It seems to have helped. I also only use two soaps, as of now. I'd be lying if I didn't say I miss the scent, but I am enjoying the better shaves. It's an unfortunate trade-off.
So, I can't say for sure Lanolin is the culprit. I'm more inclined to think it 'adds to the problem'? So I've decided to avoid it, to be safe.
Being I cannot say for sure what part Lanolin played, nor do I have a grasp on any other ingredients that could have been an issue, I don't know that I'm a great choice to try something out. If it worked for me, great... But I don't want my results, one way or the other, to lead you astray.