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(This post was last modified: 02-28-2020, 10:18 PM by Batmanacci.)
(02-24-2020, 04:59 PM)BPman Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 04:45 PM)david581 Wrote: ...Just curious since he is just making stainless steel - why not hire another machinist.


Because Canada is a huge "Red state" and it's like hiring someone down here in NY or CA, i.e., insanely expensive.

(02-24-2020, 05:28 PM)JimmyH Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 04:45 PM)david581 Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 03:26 PM)primotenore Wrote: I am on the waiting list...expecting a waiting time of approximately 8 months. I have been thinking about the market and how the resale might be affected down the line. I am not purchasing this razor with that intention, however, I can't help but think that market saturation, even with this high-end product, might affect prices should I, for whatever reason, be unhappy with my razor. Thoughts? I am also considering just keeping my eye out for one on the BST market. Might save some serious cash. This purchase is a mos def "want", rather than a need.
You can buy on the BST but you will pay a premium. You will pay $300 for a head + handle in basic finish direct from Wolfman. Most sellers are listing Wolfman's for a 200% markup. Hopefully resale prices will come down as more are made. Just curious since he is just making stainless steel - why not hire another machinist.
James is a perfectionist. I've worked with guys like him in the high end carpentry field years ago. They are so good at what they do that it is almost impossible for them to find help they are satisfied with. 

For me the used market for Wolfman is down to something I want badly that I cannot get from James directly. For those who don't have any, or they don't have the gap they want it is still an active pursuit. 

I think about the market if James ever stops making them !  Rolleyes
I don't foresee James stopping but only speeding up the razor building process. In fact his goal is to actually have plenty of stock to sell to everyone.
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(02-24-2020, 07:00 PM)Batmanacci Wrote: I don't foresee James stopping but only speeding up the razor building process. In fact his goal is to actually have plenty of stock to sell to everyone. Wouldn't be my business plan with Wolfman, but it's definitely his.

If you ran a business that put out a quality product, you would rather not sell more units of said product? You'd rather make less money?
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(02-24-2020, 04:45 PM)david581 Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 03:26 PM)primotenore Wrote: I am on the waiting list...expecting a waiting time of approximately 8 months. I have been thinking about the market and how the resale might be affected down the line. I am not purchasing this razor with that intention, however, I can't help but think that market saturation, even with this high-end product, might affect prices should I, for whatever reason, be unhappy with my razor. Thoughts? I am also considering just keeping my eye out for one on the BST market. Might save some serious cash. This purchase is a mos def "want", rather than a need.
You can buy on the BST but you will pay a premium. You will pay $300 for a head + handle in basic finish direct from Wolfman. Most sellers are listing Wolfman's with a 200% markup. Hopefully resale prices will come down as more are made. Just curious since he is just making stainless steel - why not hire another machinist.
My point exactly.
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(02-24-2020, 07:07 PM)scb Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 07:00 PM)Batmanacci Wrote: I don't foresee James stopping but only speeding up the razor building process. In fact his goal is to actually have plenty of stock to sell to everyone. Wouldn't be my business plan with Wolfman, but it's definitely his.

If you ran a business that put out a quality product, you would rather not sell more units of said product? You'd rather make less money?
As the business owner yes it, but it's also become as popular as it has because of the rarity along with the quality. 
I'm not saying it as a bad thing, because as a business owner he should care less about what aftermarket prices are. But for collectors who bought them at really high after market prices hoping they made a good investment will prove to have not been so much.
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(This post was last modified: 02-24-2020, 09:41 PM by Whisk-her Away.)
(02-24-2020, 04:45 PM)david581 Wrote: You can buy on the BST but you will pay a premium. You will pay $300 for a head + handle in basic finish direct from Wolfman. Most sellers are listing Wolfman's with a 200% markup. Hopefully resale prices will come down as more are made. Just curious since he is just making stainless steel - why not hire another machinist.

I think you meant a 100% markup, or 200% of MSRP. A 200% markup would be 3x the MSRP. Things haven’t gotten that crazy....yet.
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James' razors are worth the wait. That's all I can say.

Only thing you worry about is the gap when ordering one.

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(02-24-2020, 10:02 PM)nikos.a Wrote: James' razors are worth the wait. That's all I can say.

Only thing you worry about is the gap when ordering one.

Yes, the gap left in my wallet!!  Cry

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(02-24-2020, 04:45 PM)david581 Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 03:26 PM)primotenore Wrote: I am on the waiting list...expecting a waiting time of approximately 8 months. I have been thinking about the market and how the resale might be affected down the line. I am not purchasing this razor with that intention, however, I can't help but think that market saturation, even with this high-end product, might affect prices should I, for whatever reason, be unhappy with my razor. Thoughts? I am also considering just keeping my eye out for one on the BST market. Might save some serious cash. This purchase is a mos def "want", rather than a need.
You can buy on the BST but you will pay a premium. You will pay $300 for a head + handle in basic finish direct from Wolfman. Most sellers are listing Wolfman's with a 200% markup. Hopefully resale prices will come down as more are made. Just curious since he is just making stainless steel - why not hire another machinist.
$400. $250 for the head and $150 for the handle.
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(02-25-2020, 12:16 PM)Zhang Doe Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 04:45 PM)david581 Wrote:
(02-24-2020, 03:26 PM)primotenore Wrote: I am on the waiting list...expecting a waiting time of approximately 8 months. I have been thinking about the market and how the resale might be affected down the line. I am not purchasing this razor with that intention, however, I can't help but think that market saturation, even with this high-end product, might affect prices should I, for whatever reason, be unhappy with my razor. Thoughts? I am also considering just keeping my eye out for one on the BST market. Might save some serious cash. This purchase is a mos def "want", rather than a need.
You can buy on the BST but you will pay a premium. You will pay $300 for a head + handle in basic finish direct from Wolfman. Most sellers are listing Wolfman's with a 200% markup. Hopefully resale prices will come down as more are made. Just curious since he is just making stainless steel - why not hire another machinist.
$400. $250 for the head and $150 for the handle.
$400 cad = $300 USD

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(02-24-2020, 03:26 PM)primotenore Wrote: I am on the waiting list...expecting a waiting time of approximately 8 months. I have been thinking about the market and how the resale might be affected down the line. I am not purchasing this razor with that intention, however, I can't help but think that market saturation, even with this high-end product, might affect prices should I, for whatever reason, be unhappy with my razor. Thoughts? I am also considering just keeping my eye out for one on the BST market. Might save some serious cash. This purchase is a mos def "want", rather than a need.


You won’t lose money.

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