#51

Sophisticated Stooge
Corpus Christi, TX
(06-09-2016, 01:57 AM)Toddster64 Wrote: Cold water shaver, I shave before showering. Face latherer. Visible, dark, coarse beard, usually 3 passes to BBS, some buffing often to get to that level, although it varies by razor. Beard growth in multiple directions so I vary the WTG/XTG/ATG routine depending on factors such as razor aggressiveness and blade choice.

Wow, I have found my shaving twin! This is my process and beard description to a T!

Needless to say, I am highly anticipating your review of this razor...

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#52

Member
Marin County, CA
(06-09-2016, 06:54 PM)merelymoe Wrote:
(06-09-2016, 01:57 AM)Toddster64 Wrote: Cold water shaver, I shave before showering. Face latherer. Visible, dark, coarse beard, usually 3 passes to BBS, some buffing often to get to that level, although it varies by razor. Beard growth in multiple directions so I vary the WTG/XTG/ATG routine depending on factors such as razor aggressiveness and blade choice.

Wow, I have found my shaving twin!  This is my process and beard description to a T!

Needless to say, I am highly anticipating your review of this razor...

Hey thanks Moe! And you're my favorite Stooge...Tongue

First here are the goods to support Day 1 of my Timeless OC shave:


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As noted yesterday, I follow a rather regular routine, using cold water and face lathering. I rinse with a store-bought glycerine soap beforehand, also with cold water.

Darkbulb did a very thorough description of the razor itself and the shave, so I won't repeat his valuable and seemingly spot-on points, but will reiterate it's an absolute beauty of a razor (and at this price, it had better be!). I also appreciate the "chamber" of lather that reduces the need to rinse the razor. The weight feels perfect, and my hands aren't that large so the handle size works for me (I tend to grip close to the guard/comb anyhow, so long handles don't provide me noticeable additional benefit).

I wholly agree with Darkbulb that the audible nature of the shave is apparent, and it is a highly efficient razor to boot. I've just spent about a week trying out RazoRock's recently released Old Type OC, which I enjoy, but you really can't compare an exquisitely machined $285 razor with an unbelievably value-priced $15 OC. While this isn't a review of the latter, I will say that the RazoRock seems to have more blade feel, but a milder shave; while the Timeless OC is louder, I feel less blade, but it it is more efficient. Where the RazoRock feels like about a 5 on the efficiency scale, I would put the Timeless into near Muhle R41 territory at something closer to an 8, although I prefer (much) the feel of the Timeless, believe it to be more forgiving and more flexible on effective angles than the Muhle. (Note - Muhle R41 2013 is an 8 for me, the 2011 version is a 9, and then iKon ShaveCraft Tech is a 9+. YMMV, of course.)

For me, three passes, plus some occasional touch-up, is more or less the norm for my very scattershot beard growth - I often do some XTG/ATG combos plus buffing if I really want to nail a BBS. As I move up the efficiency/aggressiveness spectrum (aware that these descriptions don't necessarily correlate 100%), I can sometimes do two passes, perhaps with a bit of final cleanup on the chin and jawline. Indeed, that was exactly what the Timeless OC offered up this morning - a first pass I knew was just better than most, a second pass that pretty much reduced the need for a final pass, and some of the usual touch-ups. One weeper or nick (I couldn't figure out which) appeared thanks to a bold ATG move above my upper lip; I probably should have done an XTG pass before moving onto the ATG. Otherwise, despite the close shave and loud feedback, I never felt at risk with the razor, and its weight distribution allowed the razor to do all the work, with no inclination to apply any pressure.

Now this, remember, is just one shave. But I was impressed, even at this extremely high price point that puts it around the OneBlade (another favorite of mine). I think, beyond the quality of the razor itself, its unique and highly effective synthesis of OC and CC strengths (comfort and efficiency) could make it a very special treat for both longtime wet shavers as well as newcomers who happen to have some extra dough to spend on a really nice instrument. I can't wait to get more shaves under my belt and provide additional feedback.

NOTE - today I applied Witch Hazel as a moisturizer (thank you TSE for your videos touting this product!) and Shambala as a fragrance. The Baker Street soap from Strop Shoppe (alas no more!) smelled and performed as good as always, and I felt I could count on my new Gillette Silver Blue blade to bring out the best that the Timeless had to offer.

Hope this provides some additional guidance to those on the fence about buying this razor, or who simply (like me) enjoy reading reviews from other wetshavers, notably on the fabulous DFS site.



Todd R.

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#53

expert shaver
PSL
Sounds like it could be another nice razor but why does the company charge extra for shipping when all the other high end razors include shipping (Priority Mail). These razors are very expensive and even on eBay "economy shipping" is an additional $9.97. I will pass
#54
Shave Report #2

Second time using the TR OC razor.
This time I allowed for a bit more stubble to build up (two days worth of it).
Next shave report will be on Sunday/Monday with 3-4 days of stubble to mow down.

Lathered up some Jabonman 'Rosas' soap using my le Tuft brush that might take the place as the best brush I own.
Last shave I felt that the handle was not quite long enough for me so I decided to switch to a slightly longer handle mid-shave.

Loaded up the same Rapira blade that I used a few days ago and 'went to work'.

First Pass (WTG):

Same good audible feedback and the razor really mows down the stubble.
"Efficient" is the one word that comes to mind as I shave and I find myself thoroughly enjoying the shave.
It's hard to describe how 'aggressive' the razor is. It constantly feels as if it could bite me but I am making the way through the shaves unscathed. In the first shave report I said I'd equate it to a Slim on 7-8 and in lack of a better way to judge it I will stay with that rating.

Second Pass (ATG):
Switched out the TR handle for a Wolfman WRH7 handle, lathered up and went in for the next pass.
Ah! This is more like it. The slightly longer handle really works for me and even though it's just 12mm or so I find myself maneuvering the razor with greater ease and more comfortable.
I am also now noticing a difference in the knurling on the handle. The TR handle's knurling feels just a bit too pronounced when compared to the more subtle pattern on the Wolfman. Ideally I'd love to have a TR handle that was slightly longer and thicker and where the knurling was toned down a bit.
I'm noticing that for some reason the audible feedback is enhanced during the ATG pass.

At the end of the second pass I was completely clean shaven. It's not that often that I get away with this close a shave (other razors that deliver that for me is for instance the King Cobra and the M.Peroni). I mean, my face is very, very smooth.

I'm developing a serious crush on the head - both from how it looks but more importantly how it shaves.
This demi-cage design is, for me, very successful.
As mentioned the handle is where it falls a bit short (no pun intended) for me with a knurling that it just a bit too pronounced for my, apparently, delicate hands.

Cleaning up the sink and putting away all the stuff I feel my face and feel almost sad that I won't shave again for three days.

Stay tuned for how it handles a bit more growth.


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#55

Posting Freak
Canada
Sounds as if you are really enjoying the new shaver! Happy2

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Celestino
Love, Laughter & Shaving  Heart
#56

Member
East Texas
(06-10-2016, 01:18 AM)darkbulb Wrote:
Shave Report #2

Second time using the TR OC razor.
This time I allowed for a bit more stubble to build up (two days worth of it).
Next shave report will be on Sunday/Monday with 3-4 days of stubble to mow down.

Lathered up some Jabonman 'Rosas' soap using my le Tuft brush that might take the place as the best brush I own.
Last shave I felt that the handle was not quite long enough for me so I decided to switch to a slightly longer handle mid-shave.

Loaded up the same Rapira blade that I used a few days ago and 'went to work'.

First Pass (WTG):

Same good audible feedback and the razor really mows down the stubble.
"Efficient" is the one word that comes to mind as I shave and I find myself thoroughly enjoying the shave.
It's hard to describe how 'aggressive' the razor is. It constantly feels as if it could bite me but I am making the way through the shaves unscathed. In the first shave report I said I'd equate it to a Slim on 7-8 and in lack of a better way to judge it I will stay with that rating.

Second Pass (ATG):
Switched out the TR handle for a Wolfman WRH7 handle, lathered up and went in for the next pass.
Ah! This is more like it. The slightly longer handle really works for me and even though it's just 12mm or so I find myself maneuvering the razor with greater ease and more comfortable.
I am also now noticing a difference in the knurling on the handle. The TR handle's knurling feels just a bit too pronounced when compared to the more subtle pattern on the Wolfman. Ideally I'd love to have a TR handle that was slightly longer and thicker and where the knurling was toned down a bit.
I'm noticing that for some reason the audible feedback is enhanced during the ATG pass.

At the end of the second pass I was completely clean shaven. It's not that often that I get away with this close a shave (other razors that deliver that for me is for instance the King Cobra and the M.Peroni). I mean, my face is very, very smooth.

I'm developing a serious crush on the head - both from how it looks but more importantly how it shaves.
This demi-cage design is, for me, very successful.
As mentioned the handle is where it falls a bit short (no pun intended) for me with a knurling that it just a bit too pronounced for my, apparently, delicate hands.

Cleaning up the sink and putting away all the stuff I feel my face and feel almost sad that I won't shave again for three days.

Stay tuned for how it handles a bit more growth.

Nice review. Thanks!
#57
Great review. Look forward to hear more. The razor just looks great.
#58

Member
Austin, TX
(06-08-2016, 05:05 AM)hrfdez Wrote: Seriously, who cares if he gets to keep the razor or return it?  I don't care.  I only care about the review.  Thanks darkbulb
I agree. Companies have been providing "seed" or "evaluation" units well before Amazon or other venues.

It is a way to both generate some field level perspective from users as well as gather potential feedback not captured during Alpha/Beta testing for product enhancement.

I would also say that you may actually get biased feedback [perhaps even more so] from someone who paid $300 for a razor. Nobody wants to be the "PT Barnum" every minute and might have a stronger bias as a result.

Having said that, my Timeless OC arrived while I was traveling this past week and I shaved with it Sat-Mon. Very favorable out of the gate.

Will post extended thoughts later...

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Kevin
#59
I shaved with mine yesterday morning and was quite impressed with the razor. I went from Thursday morning to yesterday morning without shaving to give the razor a good 3 days of growth to mow down. I have a very thick corse beard with it growing in multiple directions along the neck. I typically do 2 passes with touch ups varying on the razor. I used a fresh Polsilver blade which is one of my favorites and a good starting point for me. After my usual prep I lathered up and went at it. To me the razor was very efficient without being overly aggressive, I can however feel the blade a little more than some other razors such as my ATT OCs or my Tradere OC. I did my initial 2 passes and rinsed feeling for areas that might need touching up. I found very little left behind other than the two spots I always go back over lightly. A little touching up there and I'd say I was 99% bbs, which for me is very impressive considering the growth in had. Will be using it all week long to really get an even better feel for it but it is easily in my top 3 D/E razors ( I have not tried a Wolfman or Blackbird). The thing I think needs improved is they need a nice presentation box, at the price point of $298 shipped I expect a little more than a sticker on the shipping box and a zip lock bag but that is just my opinion and it may be something they do down the road. Regardless I'm tickled to death to have one in my collection and be among the first to venture out and give Timeless Razors a shot.

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#60
The positive response to our launch has been overwhelming, and we appreciate the feedback. A few things have become apparent to us; the price difference between SB and OC is too big has been the biggest.
We have rolled up our sleeves and worked in the shop this past week to bring cycle times down on the machining of the OC head and cap. We brought in new custom tooling to help with this process. The results have been great! The cycle time and the finish off of the CNC machines has been greatly improved. This improvement on the finish from the CNC has also drastically improved our hand polishing time on the OC. So I am pleased to tell you that there is a much smaller price gap between the OC and SB razors. We will also be sending a refund for the difference to our clients who have already purchased the OC.
Here at Timeless Razor we want to work with the wet shaving community to provide the best razors possible. We are confident that our improvements on the processing of these razors will benefit you as well. We will continue to welcome your feedback, and make improvements.
Happy Shaving,
Timeless Razor

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