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#101

Living on the edge
(03-15-2019, 05:27 AM)Standard Wrote: My post was intended as sarcasm.
Private emails should never be reproduced on forums, etc. To err on the side of protecting privacy is proper (and probably unusual is today's world)

I agree...if they are marked 'Private & Confidential', then they shouldn't. Otherwise it depends on the situation.

I guess the guy who shared that email probably decided that protecting someone's reputation was more important than protecting their privacy.

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#102

Merchant
St. Louis, MO
If I am understanding the situation correctly, an email marked "Private & Confidential" was sent to his customer list in an email blast?
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#103

Living on the edge
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2019, 04:49 PM by Tester28.)
(03-15-2019, 04:21 PM)dominicr Wrote: If I am understanding the situation correctly, an email marked "Private & Confidential" was sent to his customer list in an email blast?

Ive received a number of emails from merchants whose list Im on....never had one marked "Private & Confidential" .... I think some of the recipients
somehow saw the email as privileged information.

Frankly, it would have been better if they had just said nothing instead of... its not this... it's definitely not that... but Im not telling.

I found it troubling that they were painting this guy out to be some sort of angel, and appearing to protect him (intentionally or otherwise).
Edit: Although it can be argued that they weren't aware of his shenanigans when they bought the razor.

As a consumer I care about not just the products I buy, but who I buy them from. Apparently that doesn't
matter so deeply to RAW's fan base. Which I feel is a shame.

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#104

Merchant
St. Louis, MO
(03-15-2019, 04:32 PM)Tester28 Wrote:
(03-15-2019, 04:21 PM)dominicr Wrote: If I am understanding the situation correctly, an email marked "Private & Confidential" was sent to his customer list in an email blast?

Ive received a number of emails from merchants whose list Im on....never had one marked "Private & Confidential" .... I think some of the recipients
somehow saw the email as privileged information.

Frankly, it would have been better if they had just said nothing instead of... its not this... it's definitely not that... but Im not telling.

I found it troubling that they were painting this guy out to be some sort of angel, and appearing to protect him (intentionally or otherwise).

As a consumer I care about not just the products I buy, but who I buy them from. Apparently that doesn't
matter so deeply to RAW's fan base. Which I feel is a shame.
+1000%

I find it utterly unbelievable that anyone would have the expectation that an email blast to a customer list would be "confidential".

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#105

Member
Florida
Seriously? We're going to keep hammering the same things?
Your previous posts don't prove anything, except for the fact that Avi's previous business venture was unsuccessful. Guess what..... most businesses fail! Plus, people who support a crowd funding campaign should know that there's a risk that the product might not come to fruition.
We don't know much else beyond that, everything else is speculation.
While you guys sit and complain and remain resentful, I'll be enjoying the heck out of my RS-10, so will be the others that purchased one Smile

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#106

Member
Florida
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2019, 04:47 PM by shaveSymptomatic.)
(03-15-2019, 04:21 PM)dominicr Wrote: If I am understanding the situation correctly, an email marked "Private & Confidential" was sent to his customer list in an email blast?

You're mistaken, you can go back and read everything carefully again.

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#107

Merchant
San Francisco CA
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2019, 04:48 PM by Blackland Razors.)
(03-15-2019, 05:27 AM)Standard Wrote:
(03-14-2019, 03:08 PM)Standard Wrote: Now we get to speculate on why the delay in explanation ?

My post was intended as sarcasm.  
Private emails should never be reproduced on forums, etc.  To err on the side of protecting privacy is proper (and probably unusual is today's world)

Maybe from person to person, but any email sent from a business to a customer should be not be protected by privacy. Never write a customer an email that you wouldn’t post on a public forum yourself. To think that your customers are held to some kind of code is silly. I doubt Avi intended it to stay private.

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#108

Living on the edge
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2019, 04:58 PM by Tester28.)
(03-15-2019, 04:44 PM)shaveSymptomatic Wrote: Your previous posts don't prove anything, except for the fact that Avi's previous business venture was unsuccessful. Guess what..... most businesses fail! Plus, people who support a crowd funding campaign should know that there's a risk that the product might not come to fruition.
We don't know much else beyond that, everything else is speculation.
While you guys sit and complain and remain resentful, I'll be enjoying the heck out of my RS-10, so will be the others that purchased one Smile

I think you state things too kindly....what is established is that he took $91,572 of other people's money which they want back.
The DOJ might be involved, and there's even talk of them launching class action to claim the patent that they allege he registered
with their funds.

Where that money eventually went, whether it was used in part to set up his razor business, we dont know.
Yet.

Enjoy your RS-10.

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#109

Member
Florida
(03-15-2019, 04:55 PM)Tester28 Wrote:
(03-15-2019, 04:44 PM)shaveSymptomatic Wrote: Your previous posts don't prove anything, except for the fact that Avi's previous business venture was unsuccessful. Guess what..... most businesses fail! Plus, people who support a crowd funding campaign should know that there's a risk that the product might not come to fruition.
We don't know much else beyond that, everything else is speculation.
While you guys sit and complain and remain resentful, I'll be enjoying the heck out of my RS-10, so will be the others that purchased one  Smile

I think you state things too kindly....what is established is that he took $91,572 of other people's money which they want back.
The DOJ might be involved, and there's even talk of them launching class action to claim the patent he registered with their funds.

Where that money went, whether it was used in part to set up his razor business, we dont know.
Yet.

Enjoy your RS-10.

That's my point, we don't know. We don't know how much he invested in the patent, how much he invested in product developement, etc. We don't know anything.
#110

Merchant
St. Louis, MO
(03-15-2019, 04:46 PM)shaveSymptomatic Wrote:
(03-15-2019, 04:21 PM)dominicr Wrote: If I am understanding the situation correctly, an email marked "Private & Confidential" was sent to his customer list in an email blast?

You're mistaken, you can go back and read everything carefully again.

You're telling me this was a private email to a few friends then?
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