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(09-24-2019, 11:16 PM)gregcss Wrote: I received the invoice today and went with what I had originally planned, the WR2 1.15 SB. Hope I like it.
If I could only choose one WR2 it would be the 1.15 SB, I absolutely love mine. Efficient enough for easy BBS shaves, and smooth enough for a daily driver. I think you are in for a treat!

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(09-24-2019, 11:32 PM)ScientificShaves Wrote:
(09-24-2019, 11:26 PM)Tim33z Wrote: Is there a wider range of cutting angle on the higher blade gaps compared to the lower end/standard gaps?

Yes. The blade angle of WR2's seems to be linear all the way up to 1.90mm from the experiments and images I took checking blade angles on my 1.15 and another 1.55 WR2. Afterwards the slope of the blade angle start regressing.

Thanks for confirming, I feel i may have not explained my question properly though, and seeing your username, you undoubtedly know more than me.

What i meant to say, is if you were to use say a 105SB, does finding the perfect angle to hold the handle at have a smaller window than that of say a 125SB? i.e. can the 125 be less sensitive to having the correct handle angle while shaving? Or are they all similar in needing the same angle?

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So I have been following this lengthy thread for quite some time reading everyone’s opinions and experiences acquiring and using their Wolfman razors. Over the last year I have also reached out to several members who were kind enough to lend my various razors to try. I have tried both Stainless and Titanium versions of solid bar and open comb heads in various gaps: 61, 86, 94 and 1.25, 1.35. I want to thank those anonymous members for their generosity and advise that went well beyond the posted threads.

I have discovered a number of features for the various configurations which may mirror many others’ experiences and offer these as my opinions:

1.  The extent of polishing is an “artistic feature” but it is one heck of a polish which only a few other vendors can come close (check out the other threads and opinions until some engineer gets out a glossimeter to actually measure this feature). The polishing doesn’t affect the shave quality for me.

2. The larger gaps yield a more efficient shave without loss of smoothness and may be actually smoother as others have identified.

3. Open combs may be more efficient but there is definitely a harsher face feel - Timeless open combs are very smooth if you ever get the opportunity to use one.  I personally prefer the solid bar Wolfman versions.

4. I prefer a Titanium razor because of it’s weight, balance and softer facial sensation in my typical 2 pass shave  - I don’t have the luxury of time or patience for a 3 or 4 pass shave every morning.

As I prefer efficient razors which, of course, are smooth the Wolfman as well as several others are exceptional candidates for daily shavers. I recently took delivery of a Titanium WR2 1.45/1.35 solid bar razor - this basic titanium finish was pristine as there were no scratches or machining marks evident.

It has been my daily 2 pass workhorse using my favorite blade, the Personna Red. I have been able to sustain nearly an entire day of BBS results doing the typical 135/145 2 pass shave.

The 135 Wolfman, in my hands, is slightly more efficient than Charcoal Goods L3 but they are comparable whereas the 145 Wolfman is even more efficient and slightly more efficient than the (original) Paradigm Ti1. The Paradigm T1  is still a smoother shave than any Wolfman with only a slight reduction in efficiency. If you can get ahold of any of those 50 Ti1 Paradigm’s it is so smooth you may not feel the blade and a 2 pass shave is quick, safe and extremely efficient. These higher gap Wolfman razors are still more efficient. The Raw RS10 (recently discontinued) is also smoother yet nowhere near as efficient as a 125 or even 86. Again these are my experiences as a daily shaver using very efficient razors.

Now no razor experience is complete without some ”experimentation” which for some of you may be considered heresy. Nevertheless I have shimmed many razors including my newest Wolfman which typically increases the gaps and enhance efficiency of my shaves. When I shimmed the Wolfman I did not loose any significant smoothness. Others on the site claim the larger gaps are actually smoother than the milder gaps. What was interesting was the “4 point” securing system of the WR2 head makes it very easy to load a shim without risking cutting oneself when assembling this 3-piece razor. Just put the cap down, place the blade in it and then drop in the shim(s) before putting on the guard and screwing in the handle - you need a lot more attention and care when shimming a WR1 because of the posts. So far I have maxed 3 shims on the WR2 with mind blowing efficiency, no cuts and a smooth shave ! If a razor blade is 0.04” that converts to 0.1026 mm meaning 3 shims would add approximately a 0.3 mm gap turning my Wolfman WR2 into something akin to a 175/165 beast.

So if someone is unsure how a certain gapped razor will perform for them you may want to place a shim or two and try it out. Smoothness does not suffer with larger gap Wolfman’s but efficiency will improve. Shimming will not ruin your finish but may assist one in discovering what gap would be best if you are looking for a second or even first Wolfman. It may even save you a bunch of cash as you could “convert” your milder Wolfman into a doppelgänger of a beast.

Best of luck  AJ

PS Thanks SFS Happy

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(09-24-2019, 11:06 PM)LOOT Wrote:
(09-24-2019, 10:45 PM)george1906 Wrote: I am going to ask if I can get 1.45 on one side and 1.55 on the other of an SB. Wonder if he will do that?


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I'm sure. Figure out a cool way to mark the gaps on the bottom of the baseplate. Maybe consider 135 and 155?


I was leaning toward 1.45 and 1.55 because I have a 1.25. You think 1.35 and 1.55 would be a better choice or just go with 1.45 on both sides?


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(This post was last modified: 09-25-2019, 12:52 AM by AJSharp.)
Use the top of the W in Wolfman on the guard to signify the larger gap. Just don’t forget it. Also try 2 or 3 shims to see how it feels as a tough estimate. It really works well.
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I’m amazed by the amount of meaningful info in this thread. You guys are an incredible credit to this forum.

I’ll try and give my personal observations as clearly and succinctly as I can.

After trying many different handles on the ti 1.55 WR2, I actually found that I prefer a heavier handle and the CG hammered copper handle is perfect. Weird combo, I know.

My titanium 1.55 SB WR2 is easily the most efficient razor I own with smoothness being a touch less than the RS10 and the Paradigm 17-4 which in turn is also slightly less smooth than the RS10.

I find the 1.55 to be smoother than everything else in the efficient/aggressive category. CG Lvl 3, BB, all WR1 gaps from .74-.94, GC .84, ikon tech, Karve plates D-G, vintage adjustable Gillette’s turned all the way up - Toggle, Fatboy, Slim, Black Beauty, etc. I know I’m forgetting some but these came to mind.

I’m comfortable saying that the higher gap WR2’s are the most efficient/smooth combination of any razor out there.

All that being said, my favorite razor is still my SS High Polish WR1 .94 OC. The reason being that I find the WR2 to be just too smooth! I know, I know. There’s something about the .94 OC that has the perfect amount of blade feel combined with the efficiency and smoothness that I haven’t found in any other razor.

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(09-25-2019, 12:25 AM)AJSharp Wrote: So I have been following this lengthy thread for quite some time reading everyone’s opinions and experiences acquiring and using their Wolfman razors. Over the last year I have also reached out to several members who were kind enough to lend my various razors to try. I have tried both Stainless and Titanium versions of solid bar and open comb heads in various gaps: 61, 86, 94 and 1.25, 1.35. I want to thank those anonymous members for their generosity and advise that went well beyond the posted threads.

I have discovered a number of features for the various configurations which may mirror many others’ experiences and offer these as my opinions:

1.  The extent of polishing is an “artistic feature” but it is one heck of a polish which only a few other vendors can come close (check out the other threads and opinions until some engineer gets out a glossimeter to actually measure this feature). The polishing doesn’t affect the shave quality for me.

2. The larger gaps yield a more efficient shave without loss of smoothness and may be actually smoother as others have identified.

3. Open combs may be more efficient but there is definitely a harsher face feel - Timeless open combs are very smooth if you ever get the opportunity to use one.  I personally prefer the solid bar Wolfman versions.

4. I prefer a Titanium razor because of it’s weight, balance and softer facial sensation in my typical 2 pass shave  - I don’t have the luxury of time or patience for a 3 or 4 pass shave every morning.

As I prefer efficient razors which, of course, are smooth the Wolfman as well as several others are exceptional candidates for daily shavers. I recently took delivery of a Titanium WR2 1.45/1.35 solid bar razor - this basic titanium finish was pristine as there were no scratches or machining marks evident.

It has been my daily 2 pass workhorse using my favorite blade, the Personna Red. I have been able to sustain nearly an entire day of BBS results doing the typical 135/145 2 pass shave.

The 135 Wolfman, in my hands, is slightly more efficient than Charcoal Goods L3 but they are comparable whereas the 145 Wolfman is even more efficient and slightly more efficient than the (original) Paradigm Ti1. The Paradigm T1  is still a smoother shave than any Wolfman with only a slight reduction in efficiency. If you can get ahold of any of those 50 Ti1 Paradigm’s it is so smooth you may not feel the blade and a 2 pass shave is quick, safe and extremely efficient. These higher gap Wolfman razors are still more efficient. The Raw RS10 (recently discontinued) is also smoother yet nowhere near as efficient as a 125 or even 86. Again these are my experiences as a daily shaver using very efficient razors.

Now no razor experience is complete without some ”experimentation” which for some of you may be considered heresy. Nevertheless I have shimmed many razors including my newest Wolfman which typically increases the gaps and enhance efficiency of my shaves. When I shimmed the Wolfman I did not loose any significant smoothness. Others on the site claim the larger gaps are actually smoother than the milder gaps. What was interesting was the “4 point” securing system of the WR2 head makes it very easy to load a shim without risking cutting oneself when assembling this 3-piece razor. Just put the cap down, place the blade in it and then drop in the shim(s) before putting on the guard and screwing in the handle - you need a lot more attention and care when shimming a WR1 because of the posts. So far I have maxed 3 shims on the WR2 with mind blowing efficiency, no cuts and a smooth shave ! If a razor blade is 0.04” that converts to 0.1026 mm meaning 3 shims would add approximately a 0.3 mm gap turning my Wolfman WR2 into something akin to a 175/165 beast.

So if someone is unsure how a certain gapped razor will perform for them you may want to place a shim or two and try it out. Smoothness does not suffer with larger gap Wolfman’s but efficiency will improve. Shimming will not ruin your finish but may assist one in discovering what gap would be best if you are looking for a second or even first Wolfman. It may even save you a bunch of cash as you could “convert” your milder Wolfman into a doppelgänger of a beast.

Best of luck  AJ

PS Thanks SFS Happy
Thanks for the write up on your experience with the Wolfman razors. From what you've written I may go 1.55 sb/1.45 oc on a DC instead of a 1.55 sb. I love dual combs. 

I had one of the coveted 50 Paradigm 1 Ti DEs. I sold it to a fellow because I had a different experience than yours shaving with it. I found mine to be medium aggressive, efficient enough, but harsh on my particular face. So another case of YMMV.

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(09-25-2019, 12:36 AM)george1906 Wrote:
(09-24-2019, 11:06 PM)LOOT Wrote:
(09-24-2019, 10:45 PM)george1906 Wrote: I am going to ask if I can get 1.45 on one side and 1.55 on the other of an SB. Wonder if he will do that?


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I'm sure. Figure out a cool way to mark the gaps on the bottom of the baseplate. Maybe consider 135 and 155?


I was leaning toward 1.45 and 1.55 because I have a 1.25. You think 1.35 and 1.55 would be a better choice or just go with 1.45 on both sides?


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Well, my thinking was it may fit more roles. 3 pass shave with the 135...one with the 155...or anything in between. What other Wolfies you got?

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(09-24-2019, 09:38 PM)shaveSymptomatic Wrote: I just changed my order from a 1.35 to a 1.55 wr2 thanks to you guys Lol. I hope I'm not making a mistake. Although if it's too much, I'm sure I won't have any problems trading it.
How would you compare the 1.25 to the 1.55 (how much more efficient is it, and how much more blade feel does it have?)

Edit: I'm a daily 2 pass shaver (WTG and ATG), and the 1.25 has been just fine for that purpose, but a closer and smooth shave is always welcome.
From my WR2 1.25SB/1.15OC I'd say the 1.55 SB WR2 is smooth as silk. More efficient, and when my number comes up will be what I order. It depends on the individual though. The 1.25/1.15 WR2 would be fine if it was all I had to shave with the rest of my days.

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(09-25-2019, 12:53 AM)JimmyH Wrote:
(09-25-2019, 12:25 AM)AJSharp Wrote: So I have been following this lengthy thread for quite some time reading everyone’s opinions and experiences acquiring and using their Wolfman razors. Over the last year I have also reached out to several members who were kind enough to lend my various razors to try. I have tried both Stainless and Titanium versions of solid bar and open comb heads in various gaps: 61, 86, 94 and 1.25, 1.35. I want to thank those anonymous members for their generosity and advise that went well beyond the posted threads.

I have discovered a number of features for the various configurations which may mirror many others’ experiences and offer these as my opinions:

1.  The extent of polishing is an “artistic feature” but it is one heck of a polish which only a few other vendors can come close (check out the other threads and opinions until some engineer gets out a glossimeter to actually measure this feature). The polishing doesn’t affect the shave quality for me.

2. The larger gaps yield a more efficient shave without loss of smoothness and may be actually smoother as others have identified.

3. Open combs may be more efficient but there is definitely a harsher face feel - Timeless open combs are very smooth if you ever get the opportunity to use one.  I personally prefer the solid bar Wolfman versions.

4. I prefer a Titanium razor because of it’s weight, balance and softer facial sensation in my typical 2 pass shave  - I don’t have the luxury of time or patience for a 3 or 4 pass shave every morning.

As I prefer efficient razors which, of course, are smooth the Wolfman as well as several others are exceptional candidates for daily shavers. I recently took delivery of a Titanium WR2 1.45/1.35 solid bar razor - this basic titanium finish was pristine as there were no scratches or machining marks evident.

It has been my daily 2 pass workhorse using my favorite blade, the Personna Red. I have been able to sustain nearly an entire day of BBS results doing the typical 135/145 2 pass shave.

The 135 Wolfman, in my hands, is slightly more efficient than Charcoal Goods L3 but they are comparable whereas the 145 Wolfman is even more efficient and slightly more efficient than the (original) Paradigm Ti1. The Paradigm T1  is still a smoother shave than any Wolfman with only a slight reduction in efficiency. If you can get ahold of any of those 50 Ti1 Paradigm’s it is so smooth you may not feel the blade and a 2 pass shave is quick, safe and extremely efficient. These higher gap Wolfman razors are still more efficient. The Raw RS10 (recently discontinued) is also smoother yet nowhere near as efficient as a 125 or even 86. Again these are my experiences as a daily shaver using very efficient razors.

Now no razor experience is complete without some ”experimentation” which for some of you may be considered heresy. Nevertheless I have shimmed many razors including my newest Wolfman which typically increases the gaps and enhance efficiency of my shaves. When I shimmed the Wolfman I did not loose any significant smoothness. Others on the site claim the larger gaps are actually smoother than the milder gaps. What was interesting was the “4 point” securing system of the WR2 head makes it very easy to load a shim without risking cutting oneself when assembling this 3-piece razor. Just put the cap down, place the blade in it and then drop in the shim(s) before putting on the guard and screwing in the handle - you need a lot more attention and care when shimming a WR1 because of the posts. So far I have maxed 3 shims on the WR2 with mind blowing efficiency, no cuts and a smooth shave ! If a razor blade is 0.04” that converts to 0.1026 mm meaning 3 shims would add approximately a 0.3 mm gap turning my Wolfman WR2 into something akin to a 175/165 beast.

So if someone is unsure how a certain gapped razor will perform for them you may want to place a shim or two and try it out. Smoothness does not suffer with larger gap Wolfman’s but efficiency will improve. Shimming will not ruin your finish but may assist one in discovering what gap would be best if you are looking for a second or even first Wolfman. It may even save you a bunch of cash as you could “convert” your milder Wolfman into a doppelgänger of a beast.

Best of luck  AJ

PS Thanks SFS Happy
Thanks for the write up on your experience with the Wolfman razors. From what you've written I may go 1.55 sb/1.45 oc on a DC instead of a 1.55 sb. I love dual combs. 

I had one of the coveted 50 Paradigm 1 Ti DEs. I sold it to a fellow because I had a different experience than yours shaving with it. I found mine to be medium aggressive, efficient enough, but harsh on my particular face. So another case of YMMV.

I am not fan of the Ti1 either, way overrated to me. I traded a 125DC for one, fortunately an undisclosed scratch got me out of it. One shave was plenty. It's certainly not worth the $$$ they command.

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