#51

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(08-11-2016, 09:45 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:44 PM)hrfdez Wrote: I think the dog has been beaten enough.  This is supposed to be a BST thread, just saying!

I know, but this stuff continues to happen.  every single PAA and Wolfman thread ends up in a disaster, sadly to say.

Maybe people using BST listings should be allowed to lock the thread once the BST is posted. That way this type of conversation/criticism will not happen.

I used to moderate on a Scotty Cameron forum years ago and that's how we handled our BST section. All communications were done via pm.

Just a suggestionBig Grin

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#52

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(This post was last modified: 08-11-2016, 09:54 PM by hrfdez.)
(08-11-2016, 09:47 PM)New2theScene Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:43 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:28 PM)New2theScene Wrote: This is where I disagree with a piece of your logic.  We can't really complain when we sell an item below cost.  It's our decision and more importantly it's a gentlemanly gesture.

When I've sold in bst settings I'm not hard up for cash or looking for a profit.  I'm trying to offload things that didn't agree with me and help a fellow shaver in the meanwhile. There is a bit of "what goes around comes around" at play. I was just thinking about John's post on the bst earlier today and how I was fortunate to acquire some beautiful Pen's aftershaves at a great price from him in the past.  I've done the same (I sold both my Webers well below cost this spring).  Selling low end is not getting ripped off but more an act of fellowship among shavers when it happens.  

Some people could get irritated seeing price gouging on the forums and imho they have a right to their opinions.  To some, bst is a place to share and downsize and there are other places to profit.  To me either way doesn't bother me much.  

As always, great discussion.

no, it's hypocritical, at best.  to say that we can pitchfork people because they're selling something over what the manufacturer sells it for direct (which doesn't take into account the very low output) while not getting upset when someone sells something way below market value is absurd.  

the OP is selling the Wolfman at market value.


Ok.  I'm open minded here.  On a forum of good spirited enthusiasts sharing valuable time and information, how is it hypocritical exactly?  

(When I had my children, should I have gotten my back up when friends gave me strollers clothes and car seats?)

Seriously?  Now we are equating children with razors?  This is too funnyHappy

With all do respect, but I don't owe anything to anybody, nor the OP. That's is very nice, but I have been around these forums for a long time and that's just unrealistic. Unless you are my friend, you are not getting a so called perceived deal just because we trade thoughts on a forum.

I may be cruel, but at least I'm honest about it.

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#53
(08-11-2016, 09:49 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:45 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:44 PM)hrfdez Wrote: I think the dog has been beaten enough.  This is supposed to be a BST thread, just saying!

I know, but this stuff continues to happen.  every single PAA and Wolfman thread ends up in a disaster, sadly to say.

Maybe people using BST listings should be allowed to lock the thread once the BST is posted. That way this type of conversation/criticism will not happen.

I used to moderate on a Scotty Cameron forum years ago and that's how we handled our BST section. All communications were done via pm.

Just a suggestionBig Grin
I second that motion
#54

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(This post was last modified: 08-11-2016, 09:51 PM by New2theScene.)
(08-11-2016, 09:49 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:45 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:44 PM)hrfdez Wrote: I think the dog has been beaten enough.  This is supposed to be a BST thread, just saying!

I know, but this stuff continues to happen.  every single PAA and Wolfman thread ends up in a disaster, sadly to say.

Maybe people using BST listings should be allowed to lock the thread once the BST is posted.  That way this type of conversation/criticism will not happen.

I used to moderate on a Scotty Cameron forum years ago and that's how we handled our BST section. All communications were done via pm.

Just a suggestionBig Grin


Sounds a little too nookish. Big Grin
#55

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Philadelphia, PA
(08-11-2016, 09:47 PM)New2theScene Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:43 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:28 PM)New2theScene Wrote: This is where I disagree with a piece of your logic.  We can't really complain when we sell an item below cost.  It's our decision and more importantly it's a gentlemanly gesture.

When I've sold in bst settings I'm not hard up for cash or looking for a profit.  I'm trying to offload things that didn't agree with me and help a fellow shaver in the meanwhile. There is a bit of "what goes around comes around" at play. I was just thinking about John's post on the bst earlier today and how I was fortunate to acquire some beautiful Pen's aftershaves at a great price from him in the past.  I've done the same (I sold both my Webers well below cost this spring).  Selling low end is not getting ripped off but more an act of fellowship among shavers when it happens.  

Some people could get irritated seeing price gouging on the forums and imho they have a right to their opinions.  To some, bst is a place to share and downsize and there are other places to profit.  To me either way doesn't bother me much.  

As always, great discussion.

no, it's hypocritical, at best.  to say that we can pitchfork people because they're selling something over what the manufacturer sells it for direct (which doesn't take into account the very low output) while not getting upset when someone sells something way below market value is absurd.  

the OP is selling the Wolfman at market value.


Ok.  I'm open minded here.  On a forum of good spirited enthusiasts sharing valuable time and information, how is it hypocritical exactly?  

(When I had my children, should I have gotten my back up when friends gave me strollers clothes and car seats?)


to criticize someone for making a few bucks, although when in reality, the razor seems to be priced where the market has them currently valued at versus someone selling something for way under the current selling price seems hypocritical. why is it acceptable to pay less but not more for an item?

as the OP mentioned a few posts back, he was selling his simpson brushes for $120 less than they were going for on the market. no one seemed to complain about that! note, I don't know about the brushes he's referring to or where he sold him, I'm just going off of what he told us.

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#56

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(This post was last modified: 08-11-2016, 09:54 PM by New2theScene.)
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(08-11-2016, 09:51 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:47 PM)New2theScene Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:43 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: no, it's hypocritical, at best.  to say that we can pitchfork people because they're selling something over what the manufacturer sells it for direct (which doesn't take into account the very low output) while not getting upset when someone sells something way below market value is absurd.  

the OP is selling the Wolfman at market value.


Ok.  I'm open minded here.  On a forum of good spirited enthusiasts sharing valuable time and information, how is it hypocritical exactly?  

(When I had my children, should I have gotten my back up when friends gave me strollers clothes and car seats?)

Seriously?  Now we are equating children with razors?  This is too funnyHappy


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(But my son is sharp like a razor, imo. Lol)
#57

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
(08-11-2016, 09:49 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:45 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:44 PM)hrfdez Wrote: I think the dog has been beaten enough.  This is supposed to be a BST thread, just saying!

I know, but this stuff continues to happen.  every single PAA and Wolfman thread ends up in a disaster, sadly to say.

Maybe people using BST listings should be allowed to lock the thread once the BST is posted.  That way this type of conversation/criticism will not happen.

I used to moderate on a Scotty Cameron forum years ago and that's how we handled our BST section. All communications were done via pm.

Just a suggestionBig Grin

I'll discuss it with the team to see what they think.

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#58

Chazz Reinhold HOF
(08-11-2016, 09:51 PM)New2theScene Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:49 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:45 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: I know, but this stuff continues to happen.  every single PAA and Wolfman thread ends up in a disaster, sadly to say.

Maybe people using BST listings should be allowed to lock the thread once the BST is posted.  That way this type of conversation/criticism will not happen.

I used to moderate on a Scotty Cameron forum years ago and that's how we handled our BST section. All communications were done via pm.

Just a suggestionBig Grin


Sounds a little too nookish. Big Grin

Why? Because that's how you get your kicks, by kicking someone else down? Just asking.
#59

Chazz Reinhold HOF
(08-11-2016, 09:56 PM)iamsms Wrote: ^ Lock the thread with an option for the seller to update, comment etc. (So that he/she can add more info based on questions he receives in PM)

Yes, that's they way we had it set. Only the seller could reopen and add additional information or comments.

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(This post was last modified: 08-11-2016, 10:04 PM by New2theScene.)
(08-11-2016, 09:55 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:51 PM)New2theScene Wrote:
(08-11-2016, 09:49 PM)hrfdez Wrote: Maybe people using BST listings should be allowed to lock the thread once the BST is posted.  That way this type of conversation/criticism will not happen.

I used to moderate on a Scotty Cameron forum years ago and that's how we handled our BST section. All communications were done via pm.

Just a suggestionBig Grin


Sounds a little too nookish. Big Grin

Why?  Because that's how you get your kicks, by kicking someone else down?  Just asking.


No Hector.  Because this is a place where people can talk without censorship- or so it seems.   I've said it doesn't bother me either way.  Don't be so sensitive.

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