#11

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San Diego, Cal., USA
DavidJames and kwsher, what you describe about the beard/mustache going gray before the head of hair is not all that unusual.  My father was a true redhead and my mother was a brunette.  For some reason, as a young man, my sideburns and mustache grew in ginger while my head hair grew in dark brown, almost black.  In my mid thirties my mustache started turning gray while the hair on my head remained brown and the sideburns remained red. I am almost 70 (31 December) and my mustache has been gray for quite a few years, my sideburns are now gray, and the head hair is salt and pepper with more pepper than salt, even at my age.  Go figure. Wink

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Yeah it's a strange thing, my beard has LOTS of gray in it, but i don't have any on my head. I'm not concerned with the gray though, secretly I kind of like it since I'm young enough for it to be ironic.

Freddy Happy almost birthday!

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(12-14-2015, 09:25 PM)TheHandleBar Wrote: Yeah it's a strange thing, my beard has LOTS of gray in it, but i don't have any on my head. I'm not concerned with the gray though, secretly I kind of like it since I'm young enough for it to be ironic.

Freddy Happy almost birthday!

I skipped the grey phase and went straight to pure white hair in parts of my beard if I let it grow out.

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(12-14-2015, 09:25 PM)TheHandleBar Wrote: Yeah it's a strange thing, my beard has LOTS of gray in it, but i don't have any on my head. I'm not concerned with the gray though, secretly I kind of like it since I'm young enough for it to be ironic.

Freddy Happy almost birthday!

Never, ironic, young man, always iconic. Happy2



(Thanks for the birthday wishes. Smile )

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(12-14-2015, 09:38 PM)Freddy Wrote:
(12-14-2015, 09:25 PM)TheHandleBar Wrote: Yeah it's a strange thing, my beard has LOTS of gray in it, but i don't have any on my head. I'm not concerned with the gray though, secretly I kind of like it since I'm young enough for it to be ironic.

Freddy Happy almost birthday!

Never, ironic, young man, always iconic. Happy2



(Thanks for the birthday wishes. Smile )

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#16

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(12-14-2015, 08:05 AM)TheHandleBar Wrote: The wife mentioned today she likes the look and encouraged me to grow a beard.
Not surprised, Gareth. Political junkie that I am, I ran across this early this A.M. So, man up guys, the girls want the beards! [I'll tell you sometime, in another post why I haven't been able to sustain a beard (mainly moustache) over my 80 years.]

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"The Federalist
Today at 5:47 AM
By: Nicole Russell

"Love his politics or hate him, many women—and surely some men—swoon over the dashing good looks of House Speaker Paul Ryan. What with those blue eyes, dark hair, and famous P90X abs, he inspires an entire Tumblr account—“Hey Girl, It’s Paul Ryan.” He kicked up the lovefest another notch when he announced on Twitter and Instagram that he’s first speaker to sport a beard in 100 years.

"The New York Post said Ryan now “looks less like a frat boy you’d pick a fight with and more like a top dog.” In response, women went gaga, and men such as National Review’s Deroy Murdock seethed with jealousy. The lesson? Beard or no beard, men: Take a cue from our speaker and embrace your masculinity.

"We’re So Over Beta Men

"Men are so vital to our society, but the modern man leaves much to be desired. It seems like beta males are as common as climate-change discussions and alphas are as rare as evidence of actual climate change. Men who fail to embrace their masculinity are as bad as chauvinists who wield it like a weapon.

"To figure out if she’s in a counseling session with a male “wimp,” therapist Becky Whetstone says, “I poke around with a few questions and conclude that the man has indeed shed his instinctual take-charge manliness and turned himself into a wimp, softie or pleaser, as I like to call them.”  Wimps are like the men this summer who saw a man stabbed to death on a train and did absolutely nothing to stop it.

"Men aren’t being men anymore because women aren’t letting them.
Last year on Fox News, Australian author Nick Adams said men aren’t being men anymore because women aren’t letting them: “From the politically correct, we have all these attacks on men. It’s a very hard time to be a man in today’s society.” He quipped, “What feminism has delivered is angry women and feminine men.”

"Perhaps a lack of bearded House speakers recently is a hallmark of the obvious leadership dearth in Washington. Is Ryan mirroring with his physique his call for an end to comfy little bipartisan, nicey-nice business as usual where Republicans and Democrats preside joyfully over our civilization’s slow suicide? We sure do need a hero, and it ain’t going to be Ryan Gosling.

"In a nutshell: In a world of Ray Romanos, women want Don Draper (okay, a faithful, nicer one, but still). In a country swarming with people-pleasing Barack Obamas, we crave the masculine bravado of the deep-voiced Mike Rowe.

"Non-Contracepting Women Like Manly Men

"What does this look like? There’s a reason women are salivating over Ryan’s nascent beard. Facial hair has long been associated with uber-masculinity, and many women—especially women with higher levels of estrogen and those who aren’t on hormonal contraception—are naturally attracted to this.

"We want our men to be confident in the face of crisis—big or small—but not necessarily domineering or bossy to the point of being a jerk.
A 2013 Australian study found women prefer men with “heavy stubble” or a ten-day growth, somewhere between the smooth baby-faced character Gosling plays in “The Notebook” when the couple first falls in love and the heavily-bearded Gosling when they are reunited. Science writer Rik Myslewski says “[B]eard quality, thickness, and fullness would signal to potential mates that he was sexually mature and prepared for fatherhood. This makes beardedness a sexual characteristic that is potent to women.” In other words, women find their sexual opposite sexy. The mystery of the other is what charges romance.

"That said, beards aren’t the only way to prove a man’s masculine worth. Masculinity takes many forms. True masculinity has less to do with appearance—chiseled abs and hairy parts—and more to do with attitude, character, and demeanor. As Whetstone says, “[W]hat women long for and need is the man in the middle who is strong, action-oriented, passionate, take-charge, considerate and kind.”

"We want our men to be confident in the face of crisis—big or small—but not necessarily domineering or bossy to the point of being a jerk. If women are rollercoasters of emotions and hormones, simultaneously fun and terrifying, we want men to be the steel apparatus upon which it rolls—allowing us our leeway, but remaining firm, steady, and (occasionally) telling us when to stop.

"We’ll Be Women, You Be Men

"Beyond the obvious humor and romance of “The Princess Bride,” there’s a reason women still swoon over the Dread Pirate Roberts, the “alter ego” of Wesley. Unlike Wesley the quiet, passive farm boy, Dread Pirate Roberts is assertive yet considerate, strong yet kind, direct without being a jerk. He protects the princess at all costs, to the point of being tortured and poisoned, yet screams “As you wish!” even as she pushes him down a hill.

"If we promise to embrace our femininity, will you try to embrace your masculinity?
Of course, real life isn’t like the movies. It’s undoubtedly much harder to be a manly man in a world replete with sissy men and their female enablers. It’s hard for us women to let men be men when we’re told to embrace womanhood that eschews femininity.

"But men, if we promise to embrace our femininity, will you try to embrace your masculinity? Whether that’s sporting the perfect beard or being more assertive, exterior sex appeal is as tantalizing as interior confidence. We really do want you to state your opinion, stand your ground, stake your claim, and mark your territory, even if we pretend we don’t and try to push you down the hill."

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#17

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Detroit
That's a great article beamon. I just never understood how having a beard equates with being more "manly". I think it's just the trend of the day. Almost every dude I see around where I live has one. I used to grow one for the winter because it really does keep your face warmer and it gets COLD here, it never really was a "look" thing for me. That and I used to hate shaving, but we all know how that goes!

Anyway, @TheHandleBar, if your wife wants you to grow one and you want to try it out, I say go for it. Every man should try a beard at some point in their life.

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(This post was last modified: 12-15-2015, 06:05 PM by Freddy.)
beamon, that is the funniest sexist article I've read in a long time.

Jeff, I do agree that it's fun to attempt a beard at least once, even if one decides it's not for him. Smile
#19

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(12-14-2015, 06:54 PM)DavidJames Wrote:
(12-14-2015, 06:53 PM)kwsher Wrote:
(12-14-2015, 06:39 PM)DavidJames Wrote: Oh yeah, my wife likes my beard, I still get to shave the neck and cheeks so we are both happy...and as far as the gray....I have often wondered...what's up with that?? Not really a trace on my head, but the beard....

Funny, isn't it?

I keep my hair pretty short, enough so that it looks almost completely dark even though there is a lot of grey on the sides and some up top [I am 50].

The beard: this year was almost totally grey, particularly the sides. And coarse? Yikes. Even when it got longer it was like a Brillo pad.

I'm 43 and it started to show signs of "changing" once I hit 40.....

(12-15-2015, 06:04 PM)Freddy Wrote: beamon, that is the funniest sexist article I've read in a long time.

Jeff, I do agree that it's fun to attempt a beard at least once, even if one decides it's not for him. Smile

Agreed! My success at beard growing has improved since I first tried in the '80's.

Was a wee bit patchy back in my late teens Smile
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Thousand Oaks, CA
Today she gave me googly eyes and said I looked rugged and handsome, but "definitely not like a gay pirate". Confused2

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