#61

Member
Los Angeles
What actually annoys me is when others want to censor what others say or wanting others to be politically correct. Why don't we just have a group to come up with a list of things we can or can not say. Please just stick to shaving and not the words that others say to describe what they like. If you don't like what you are reading move on.

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#62

Member
Detroit
(03-06-2017, 01:45 AM)Tidepool Wrote: What actually annoys me is when others want to censor what others say or wanting others to be politically correct. Why don't we just have a group to come up with a list of things we can or can not say. Please just stick to shaving and not the words that others say to describe what they like. If you don't like what you are reading move on.

I get what you're saying, but the OP never said anything about censoring anyone. This is a discussion about terms you don't like. Nothing wrong with that. You could heed your own advice and "move on" if you don't like what you are reading instead of chastising the OP about his topic. Just my 2 cents...

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- Jeff
#63
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2017, 02:46 AM by yohannrjm.)
(03-06-2017, 01:45 AM)Tidepool Wrote: What actually annoys me is when others want to censor what others say or wanting others to be politically correct. Why don't we just have a group to come up with a list of things we can or can not say. Please just stick to shaving and not the words that others say to describe what they like. If you don't like what you are reading move on.

As Jeff indicated, I didn't mean this thread to be anything more than a lighthearted place to point out some of the wetshaving-related terms that are amusing, misleading, overused or just plain irritating. There's no expectation that other people will change their usage of said terms.

Like you, I cordially dislike political correctness...or at least it's imposition on people who don't care for it. This forum is not the place for censorship (outside of the restrictions put in place by the mods).

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- Yohann
#64
(03-06-2017, 01:45 AM)Tidepool Wrote: What actually annoys me is when others want to censor what others say or wanting others to be politically correct.  Why don't we just have a group to come up with a list of things we can or can not say.  Please just stick to shaving and not the words that others say to describe what they like.  If you don't like what you are reading move on.

I believe Freddy gave the perfect response to your annoyance:

Freddy Wrote:Gentlemen, I find it interesting that the terms and acronyms that annoy us are, indeed, the very ones that also act as a binder and commonality in our wet shaving community, whether or not we like them.  YMMV, of course, but my less than comfortable BBS shave with hardware and software that consisted of a cartridge and canned goo, because I was in a rush this morning, in no way upset my guest who is SWMBO while she is visiting me.

Each of us probably have words, terms, and acronyms that drive us to distraction (mine is the misuse and overuse of the word awesome) but, for the most part, we have developed our own little language that speaks to and, ultimately, unites us in our hobby.

yohannrjm, thanks for a great thread.  It was a most enjoyable way to start my morning. Happy2

He kind of mocked us with our words of (not!)choice and we all had a chuckle.

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#65

That Bald Guy with the Big Beard
Bishop, CA
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2017, 07:03 PM by BadDad.)
(03-04-2017, 06:38 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: What do the words indeed and quite really mean when you are speaking? Do they really add meaning or are they just used as fillers?

"Indeed" is used to emphasize a point already made.

"Quite" is used to convey an extent, typically an extreme extent.

Yes, they add meaning. Indeed, they add quite a bit of meaning, when used properly and with a vocabulary that is expansive enough to support them.

I find it utterly appalling that anyone would request a dumbing-down of language in the written form just to meet a personal, verbal aesthetic. I take issue much more readily with the use of "text speak" than I do with the use of proper vocabulary, punctuation, and capitalization when trying to convey meaning in written form.

Writing is a lost talent. It should not be lost, especially in the digital age where it is so easy to preserve...

How ironic is it that my daughter brought home an actual award for being able to properly use the semi-colon in writing? In 7th grade, it should not come as a surprise when a student can use appropriate punctuation...

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#66
(03-06-2017, 07:01 PM)BadDad Wrote:
(03-04-2017, 06:38 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: What do the words indeed and quite really mean when you are speaking? Do they really add meaning or are they just used as fillers?


How ironic is it that my daughter brought home an actual award for being able to properly use the semi-colon in writing? In 7th grade, it should not come as a surprise when a student can use appropriate punctuation...

Indeed! Like misusing a question mark at the end of a sentence that isn't an interrogative, and misusing an ellipsis at the end of a sentence.

By the way, since we're also talking about superfluous modifiers, maybe you could explain to the rest of us uneducated cretins the difference between "award" and "actual award."

"It's a joke, son; it's a joke, I say!" Smile
"What's good for me ain't necessarily good for the weak-minded." - Augustus McRae
#67

That Bald Guy with the Big Beard
Bishop, CA
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2017, 07:26 PM by BadDad.)
(03-06-2017, 07:21 PM)John Clayton Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 07:01 PM)BadDad Wrote:
(03-04-2017, 06:38 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: What do the words indeed and quite really mean when you are speaking? Do they really add meaning or are they just used as fillers?


How ironic is it that my daughter brought home an actual award for being able to properly use the semi-colon in writing? In 7th grade, it should not come as a surprise when a student can use appropriate punctuation...

Indeed! Like misusing a question mark at the end of a sentence that isn't an interrogative, and misusing an ellipsis at the end of a sentence.

By the way, since we're also talking about superfluous modifiers, maybe you could explain to the rest of us uneducated cretins the difference between "award" and "actual award."

"It's a joke, son; it's a joke, I say!" Smile

Question mark is not misused. I asked "How ironic is it...?"...

Ellipses are appropriately used as the thought can and does continue after the end of the string of words.

"Actual" was used to convey that the award was physical in nature, not a verbal congratulations provided by the teacher. It was, in fact, an ACTUAL award, with certification from the Principle of the school, and a gold seal.

Also, just to clarify, I never implied nor intended that my use of language was better or more advanced than anyone else's. Just different, and not about to be simplified to meet a verbal aesthetic.

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#68

Merchant
Arkansas
(03-06-2017, 07:01 PM)BadDad Wrote: I take issue much more readily with the use of "text speak" than I do with the use of proper vocabulary, punctuation, and capitalization when trying to convey meaning in written form.

Ur 2 Kra-Z #YOLOSWAG

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#69
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2017, 08:24 PM by John Clayton.)
Since we're picking seeds out of cowpies now, an ellipsis indicates the omission from speech or writing of a word or words that are superfluous or able to be understood from contextual clues. Your ellipsis doesn't do that.

I experienced a dyslexic episode while reading your "ironic" statement.

I'm a writer by profession and there are some elementary principle of composition that I learned long ago: Omit needless words. Use definite, specific, concrete language. Avoid fancy words. Do not use dialect (especially archaic British dialect).

For example: "Indeed," "Quite," "utterly appalling," "much more readily," "Each of us probably have...," "most enjoyable."

BTW, I don't "cordially dislike political correctness." I despise it.
"What's good for me ain't necessarily good for the weak-minded." - Augustus McRae
#70

That Bald Guy with the Big Beard
Bishop, CA
(03-06-2017, 07:54 PM)John Clayton Wrote: Since we're picking seeds out of cowpies now, an ellipsis indicates the omission from speech or writing of a word or words that are superfluous or able to be understood from contextual clues. Your ellipsis doesn't do that.
I was not quoting text. There is nothing to omit. When writing original text, an ellipsis is used to convey the idea that the conclusion has been left for the reader to form based on the presented context. Or, to simplify, the thought continues after the writing ends...like if I had left these words off, the ellipsis present prior to them would convey the existence of the thought without the need to write them all out as I have opted to do here.

Quote:I experienced a dyslexic episode while reading your "ironic" statement.
Happens to the best of us...(insert your own conclusion based on context here)

Quote:I'm a writer by profession and there are some elementary principle of composition that I learned long ago: Omit needless words. Use definite, specific, concrete language. Avoid fancy words. Do not use dialect (especially archaic British dialect).

As a writer, you should know better than any other that the "rules" of writing are not actually written in stone. They not only CAN be ignored, but SHOULD be ignored when the context, grammar, and tempo of the writing are more important than the "rules"...as they are in most things that I type out.
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