#41

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Portland, OR area
What do the words indeed and quite really mean when you are speaking? Do they really add meaning or are they just used as fillers?
#42

Maker of Soaps and Shaver of Men
Cooperstown, NY, USA
(03-04-2017, 06:38 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: What do the words indeed and quite really mean when you are speaking? Do they really add meaning or are they just used as fillers?

Linguistic flourishes, in my case. It would be quite a tragedy indeed, perhaps even Orwellian, for us to reduce our language to only that which is absolutely necessary, don't you think? Smile

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#43

Maker of Soaps and Shaver of Men
Cooperstown, NY, USA
(This post was last modified: 03-04-2017, 10:08 PM by Barrister_N_Mann.)
(03-04-2017, 06:09 AM)Slyfox Wrote: I don't much care for artisan. Which to me would be if they made each soap individual. Like an artisan wood maker. They might make a dozen chairs but each is slightly different. Lot of artisans used similar equipment to manufacturers. Just smaller scale. They'll small business.
But marketing as artisan was a huge success

Good marketing or not, I feel similarly. The term "artisan" has had a lot of angry discussion around it, both here and other places, and it seems that people place a lot of importance on the word. To me, it's silly. We make soap. I like to think of what we do as at least partly artistic. I put a lot of effort and work into continually improving my craft, but that's what any good business should be doing. This "is it/is it not artisan" debate has become entirely too contentious for my taste.

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#44

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Virginia
Not a term, but a common occurrence on shaving boards - the need to show how much you know about shaving.

E.G. - Someone asks "What is the best razor under $100?" the type of answer that is along the lines of "Well it really depends what your looking for. What sorts of other razors do you like. Give us something to go on. Razors have a high YMMV factor." Well, I'm looking for your opinion. So just tell me what you think. Same goes for blades. Yeah they are dependent on a lot factors, but because most threads seem to answer calls for blade reccomendations are flooded with answers that blades a ymmv, it took me nearly a year to discover Gillette Platinum.

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#45

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USA
(03-01-2017, 11:32 PM)merelymoe Wrote: While I get the marketing angle, I do have a pet peeve with the wide variety of descriptions used to grade badger hair.  I'm just waiting on the "hand picked by vegan virgins" grade of badger hair to hit the market...


Where can I buy this?Big Grin

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#46

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Portland, OR area
(03-04-2017, 06:48 PM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote:
(03-04-2017, 06:38 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: What do the words indeed and quite really mean when you are speaking? Do they really add meaning or are they just used as fillers?

Linguistic flourishes, in my case. It would be quite a tragedy indeed, perhaps even Orwellian, for us to reduce our language to only that which is absolutely necessary, don't you think? Smile

You can flourish all you want. All I said was that people who use those flourishes to sound like 18th century English gentlemen sound silly to me. Besides, it's the thought behind the language that holds more meaning.
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SWMBO. It just sounds strange.

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#48

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Portland, OR area
Oh yeah...not sure where you went to school, but the poets at my college were the most socially awkward students on campus. Even worse than the cinema majors. You can say "indeed" and "quite" until you're blue in the face, but it still won't help you get laid.

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#49

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Las Vegas, NV, USA
(03-04-2017, 11:18 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: You can flourish all you want. All I said was that people who use those flourishes to sound like 18th century English gentlemen sound silly to me. Besides, it's the thought behind the language that holds more meaning.
It may sound silly to you, but some of us have different backgrounds, and may have learned our English in a different setting.

Compare these two sentences:
“This soap is pretty good.”
“This soap is quite good.”

Same essential meaning, with just one different word choice. If you’re a modern-day American, you would probably use the first sentence to describe your thoughts. But when you were growing up, if you learned British English in an other country, perhaps the natural way to express your thoughts would be the second sentence.

Also, neither of those sentences has exactly the same tone (nor does it convey the same meaning) as this one:
“This soap is good.”

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#50

Maker of Soaps and Shaver of Men
Cooperstown, NY, USA
(03-04-2017, 11:18 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote:
(03-04-2017, 06:48 PM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote:
(03-04-2017, 06:38 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: What do the words indeed and quite really mean when you are speaking? Do they really add meaning or are they just used as fillers?

Linguistic flourishes, in my case. It would be quite a tragedy indeed, perhaps even Orwellian, for us to reduce our language to only that which is absolutely necessary, don't you think? Smile

You can flourish all you want. All I said was that people who use those flourishes to sound like 18th century English gentlemen sound silly to me. Besides, it's the thought behind the language that holds more meaning.

(03-04-2017, 11:25 PM)FlyingDuc Wrote: Oh yeah...not sure where you went to school, but the poets at my college were the most socially awkward students on campus. Even worse than the cinema majors. You can say "indeed" and "quite" until you're blue in the face, but it still won't help you get laid.

Okay, take it easy. I was just saying. Why is it that everyone gets so upset about such silly distinctions? No need to make it personal.

And I'm in a very happy relationship, thanks.

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