#41
I'm not buying the kool-aide.  Yep looks good....yep lots of money spent in research and development.... Here is why this razor, in my estimate, is nice but won't catch on or if it does I'll still call it Satan's spawn. 

1.  Price.   Unlike the other upper tier razors this is missing two things.  Blade selection. ATT razors are heirloom quality and for a handle and head at half the cost of this razor, I can use any blade I want.  Since blades are the biggest YMMV in the DE world, limiting me to even five blades that work in a 300 razor is insane. That's like buying a car and giving me a handful of places I can change the oil. 

 2. Customization.  Wolfman razors is about the only other vendor at this point priced as high, albeit lower than the one blade.  What does he offer that one blade can't?  Two things, I can custom make my razor from blade gap to handle knurling, it's mine, it's one of a kind, and oh yeah, more than a handful of blades will work in it.  

3.  That damn pivot.  For the last two years I've watched people blast Gillette for their asinine gimmicks.  More blades, a bending head, a motorized head, a goo dispensing head in the works.  A pivot on a razor screams blasphemy in my book, I don't give a damn if I have to take five passes behind my lower left ear and jaw line. 

4.  Finally, comparing brushes and their cost to razor cost makes no sense.  Apples to oranges my friends.... For, a guy who traps badgers and the limit is two per year....in a six week window.... There is a reason the finest badger hair brushes cost what they do and synthetics are cheap as dirt.

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#42
I still can't believe people are buying into this thing.

All evidence has been buried. All tapes have been erased.
#43
(This post was last modified: 09-23-2015, 08:02 AM by Len.)
(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: I'm not buying the kool-aide.  Yep looks good....yep lots of money spent in research and development.... Here is why this razor, in my estimate, is nice but won't catch on or if it does I'll still call it Satan's spawn. 

So, even if it is "nice", or beyond nice... even if it were the closest, smoothest shaver ever made in the history of the world, you would still bad mouth it, huh?

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: 1.  Price.   Unlike the other upper tier razors this is missing two things.  Blade selection. ATT razors are heirloom quality and for a handle and head at half the cost of this razor, I can use any blade I want.  Since blades are the biggest YMMV in the DE world, limiting me to even five blades that work in a 300 razor is insane. That's like buying a car and giving me a handful of places I can change the oil. 

The highest performing cars only take synthetic oil and premium gasoline... so by your logic, the best cars sound like rebuilt Pinto's out of the junk yard. If you like cheap, rebuilt junk that you have to constantly maintain and refit, I can understand why you might hold this view.  

Since you reference the DE world, you might be surprised to learn this is an SE razor. There is actually a difference between the two. And yes, there is less of a selection with SE blades as compared to DE blades... Apples to oranges...

You have to keep in mind, this is a precision instrument.  The entire razor head was designed completely around this particular blade. It was not designed to retrofit a hodgepodge of blades with varying quality...  Any other dime a dozen razor can do this.  A jack of all blades, but master of none. No, this razor was designed and perfected around one blade. This is a unique attribute that very few razors can boast of.  No other modern razor is 100% designed and engineered around one single type blade, and this is engineering with the entire tool in mind, tested only with the perfect shave in mind, consistently.

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote:  2. Customization.  Wolfman razors is about the only other vendor at this point priced as high, albeit lower than the one blade.  What does he offer that one blade can't?  Two things, I can custom make my razor from blade gap to handle knurling, it's mine, it's one of a kind, and oh yeah, more than a handful of blades will work in it.  

Your line of argument here is like comparing Apple to Android. One has a ton of customization, another does not. One is clearly higher end in all cases, the other is hit and miss. One gets hacked and has viruses, the other is secure and 'just works'. Some people like a perfect shave out of the box that will last for lifetimes, others like to tinker, and never get it quite right.

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: 3.  That damn pivot...  A pivot on a razor screams blasphemy in my book, I don't give a damn if I have to take five passes behind my lower left ear and jaw line. 

So, you admit, a pivot can actually work? I know I can admit as much... Well, if you enjoy five passes along your jaw line, who am I to argue. I personally enjoy smooth, BBS around my jaw with 1-2 passes in this area. But if you like tearing your face up, God bless you.

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: 4.  Finally, comparing brushes and their cost to razor cost makes no sense.  Apples to oranges my friends.... For, a guy who traps badgers and the limit is two per year....in a six week window.... There is a reason the finest badger hair brushes cost what they do and synthetics are cheap as dirt.

Just about all badger hair comes out of China... so are you referring to the Chinese trapping laws? Didn't know there was any... must be some rich trappers out east, huh?

(09-22-2015, 02:13 PM)Bruce Wrote: I still can't believe people are buying into this thing.

I still can't believe people who have never tried a product, constantly talk about and bad mouth it like they have.

There are many products I haven't tried, and may never try. But you won't ever catch me trying to review or badmouth something I've never tried, or am completely ignorant about. What would that say about me if I did?

What I do know is, I own this razor.... and it does give me the smoothest, safest, closest shave I've ever had in my life. And I'm not the only one. Look over the different forums and videos, including here. Almost every owner of this razor that has reviewed it says it is one of the best razors they have ever owned. (The ONLY complaint I've heard, from may be 2 out of dozens, is that it is too mild for them... but still more aggressive than the nearly $300, [when it was first released, and more $ customized, and still without a guarantee or stainless steel stand] Feather AS-D2.) Even Mantic59 (Sharpologist), arguably the guy that spearheaded the wet shaving revival, says OneBlade is probably the best razor he's ever owned.


If you want reviews, gentlemen, listen to those who own it. We are pretty unanimous in our praise. But what's the point of listening to people who have nothing better to do with their time than to troll and bash products they've never used? It's not like any useful information about the product is actually coming from them... cause they wouldn't know anyway. It's the same with the guy who owns the pinto, constantly tinkering with it, who will never be able to own a Mercedes, yet constantly yammers on and on about on what a bad car the Mercedes is, or why they would never own one or want one.

For those considering this razor... Some people may be too cheap, or jealous, or prejudiced about this razor to have an open mind... they can be ignored, as they are only muddying the water about something they know less about than you do (because at least you have an open mind about experiencing something different),  but for those that want quality above all else,  that will give you a close, smooth, irritation free shave every time, that is built to last for lifetimes, and that you don't have to constantly retrofit and fuddle with and "just works"... trust me, you've found your home. If you doubt me, that's good, you should... but look around closely, and read only from people that own this razor. Guess what, they aren't disappointed, to the annoyance of the trolls, and neither will you be!

Happy shaves, for lifetimes!
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(This post was last modified: 09-23-2015, 01:53 PM by steeleshaves.)
(09-23-2015, 05:24 AM)Len Wrote:
(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: I'm not buying the kool-aide.  Yep looks good....yep lots of money spent in research and development.... Here is why this razor, in my estimate, is nice but won't catch on or if it does I'll still call it Satan's spawn. 

So, even if it is "nice", or beyond nice... even if it were the closest, smoothest shaver ever made in the history of the world, you would still bad mouth it, huh?

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: 1.  Price.   Unlike the other upper tier razors this is missing two things.  Blade selection. ATT razors are heirloom quality and for a handle and head at half the cost of this razor, I can use any blade I want.  Since blades are the biggest YMMV in the DE world, limiting me to even five blades that work in a 300 razor is insane. That's like buying a car and giving me a handful of places I can change the oil. 

The highest performing cars only take synthetic oil and premium gasoline... so by your logic, the best cars sound like rebuilt Pinto's out of the junk yard. If you like cheap, rebuilt junk that you have to constantly maintain and refit, I can understand why you might hold this view.  

Since you reference the DE world, you might be surprised to learn this is an SE razor. There is actually a difference between the two. And yes, there is less of a selection with SE blades as compared to DE blades... Apples to oranges...

You have to keep in mind, this is a precision instrument.  The entire razor head was designed completely around this particular blade. It was not designed to retrofit a hodgepodge of blades with varying quality...  Any other dime a dozen razor can do this.  A jack of all blades, but master of none. No, this razor was designed and perfected around one blade. This is a unique attribute that very few razors can boast of.  No other modern razor is 100% designed and engineered around one single type blade, and this is engineering with the entire tool in mind, tested only with the perfect shave in mind, consistently.

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote:  2. Customization.  Wolfman razors is about the only other vendor at this point priced as high, albeit lower than the one blade.  What does he offer that one blade can't?  Two things, I can custom make my razor from blade gap to handle knurling, it's mine, it's one of a kind, and oh yeah, more than a handful of blades will work in it.  

Your line of argument here is like comparing Apple to Android. One has a ton of customization, another does not. One is clearly higher end in all cases, the other is hit and miss. One gets hacked and has viruses, the other is secure and 'just works'. Some people like a perfect shave out of the box that will last for lifetimes, others like to tinker, and never get it quite right.

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: 3.  That damn pivot...  A pivot on a razor screams blasphemy in my book, I don't give a damn if I have to take five passes behind my lower left ear and jaw line. 

So, you admit, a pivot can actually work? I know I can admit as much... Well, if you enjoy five passes along your jaw line, who am I to argue. I personally enjoy smooth, BBS around my jaw with 1-2 passes in this area. But if you like tearing your face up, God bless you.

(09-22-2015, 03:11 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: 4.  Finally, comparing brushes and their cost to razor cost makes no sense.  Apples to oranges my friends.... For, a guy who traps badgers and the limit is two per year....in a six week window.... There is a reason the finest badger hair brushes cost what they do and synthetics are cheap as dirt.

Just about all badger hair comes out of China... so are you referring to the Chinese trapping laws? Didn't know there was any... must be some rich trappers out east, huh?

(09-22-2015, 02:13 PM)Bruce Wrote: I still can't believe people are buying into this thing.

I still can't believe people who have never tried a product, constantly talk about and bad mouth it like they have.

There are many products I haven't tried, and may never try. But you won't ever catch me trying to review or badmouth something I've never tried, or am completely ignorant about. What would that say about me if I did?

What I do know is, I own this razor.... and it does give me the smoothest, safest, closest shave I've ever had in my life. And I'm not the only one. Look over the different forums and videos, including here. Almost every owner of this razor that has reviewed it says it is one of the best razors they have ever owned. (The ONLY complaint I've heard, from may be 2 out of dozens, is that it is too mild for them... but still more aggressive than the nearly $300, [when it was first released, and more $ customized, and still without a guarantee or stainless steel stand] Feather AS-D2.) Even Mantic59 (Sharpologist), arguably the guy that spearheaded the wet shaving revival, says OneBlade is probably the best razor he's ever owned.


If you want reviews, gentlemen, listen to those who own it. We are pretty unanimous in our praise. But what's the point of listening to people who have nothing better to do with their time than to troll and bash products they've never used? It's not like any useful information about the product is actually coming from them... cause they wouldn't know anyway. It's the same with the guy who owns the pinto, constantly tinkering with it, who will never be able to own a Mercedes, yet constantly yammers on and on about on what a bad car the Mercedes is, or why they would never own one or want one.

For those considering this razor... Some people may be too cheap, or jealous, or prejudiced about this razor to have an open mind... they can be ignored, as they are only muddying the water about something they know less about than you do (because at least you have an open mind about experiencing something different),  but for those that want quality above all else,  that will give you a close, smooth, irritation free shave every time, that is built to last for lifetimes, and that you don't have to constantly retrofit and fuddle with and "just works"... trust me, you've found your home. If you doubt me, that's good, you should... but look around closely, and read only from people that own this razor. Guess what, they aren't disappointed, to the annoyance of the trolls, and neither will you be!

Happy shaves, for lifetimes!
Anyone ever tell you that you may be verbose and loquacious?  Sounds to me like you may work for one blade or have venture capital Invested in it.  We can agree to disagree.
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(This post was last modified: 09-23-2015, 01:53 PM by brucered.)
Len Welcome to DFS....quite the first supporting post for One Blade.

No, I don't believe the other forums reviews. No, I don't buy into the hype from a razor maker that came out of nowhere.  No, I don't really care that Mantic says it's the best ever...I don't believe bloggers reviews (no offense to anyone). Just because a few guys all sit around and talk about it like it's the greatest ever and post pics of it, doesn't convince me.

If it isn't at least somewhat talked about positively on the largest forum I visit, I don't believe most of the RaRaRa for many products...that's just what I've come to the realization in terms of product reviews and discussions over the years.

I'm interested to see what people are saying about the razor in 2y or where the company is. Why would anyone be "jealous" of a razor? If you want to talk about outlandish claims and thoughts, that's about the best one I've heard yet.
#46
Thanks for the welcome Bruce.

So, you don't believe anyone who owns it, yet you expect people to believe you, who doesn't own it? Nice!

So really you are worried about the longevity of the company? I'd say venture capitalists have more means to keep a company alive than independent artisans. And many of the razors people collect here came from companies that have long gone bust anyway. I wonder if that makes their shave any worse off?

Steelshaves, I have nothing to do with OneBlade, except that I happen to own 1 razor by them. I do not support OneBlade's blade subscription, and have said elsewhere that these blades are better cheaply bought through Connaught.

My only vested interest here is paying my dues. The only reason I bought the OneBlade was because countless trusted sources who own it reviewed it with flying colors, which helped my decision. I don't want people on the fence missing out on a great shave because of disinformation artists who have no experience, and know even less about the razor. 

So my question is, who do you work for, that you spend so much time putting down a product you've never used? Or do you just always opine in ignorance?
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(This post was last modified: 09-23-2015, 02:15 PM by steeleshaves.)
(09-23-2015, 01:56 PM)Len Wrote: Thanks for the welcome Bruce.

So, you don't believe anyone who owns it, yet you expect people to believe you, who doesn't own it? Nice!

So really you are worried about the longevity of the company? I'd say venture capitalists have more means to keep a company alive than independent artisans. And many of the razors people collect here came from companies that have long gone bust anyway. I wonder if that makes their shave any worse off?

Steelshaves, I have nothing to do with OneBlade, except that I happen to own 1 razor by them. I do not support OneBlade's blade subscription, and have said elsewhere that these blades are better cheaply bought through Connaught.

My only vested interest here is paying my dues. The only reason I bought the OneBlade was because countless trusted sources who own it reviewed it with flying colors, which helped my decision. I don't want people on the fence missing out on a great shave because of disinformation artists who have no experience, and know even less about the razor. 

So my question is, who do you work for, that you spend so much time putting down a product you've never used? Or do you just always opine in ignorance?

I can very much have an opinion on a concept such as the concept of this razor and voice that opinion; that hardly makes me ignorant.  I voiced my views on this razor and the concept and the flaws I see in that concept as a reason I would not buy this razor.  That is no more illogical of an opinion than you referencing and boasting the claims of an online persona (who got the first prototype of this razor for free by the way, which leads me to wonder if that impacts his "glowing praises" as "the best razor he's ever owned") as one of the driving factors as to why you purchased this razor.  Frankly , your reaction to my comments on this razor illustrate what is wrong with many facets of daily life today; people can't stand it when others disagree with something they believe or don't care for something they really like.  You freaked out in your post to an extent I have rarely witnessed even when people are defending their children.  It's a razor my man. You cut facial hair with it.  No one called your kid ugly, called your wife an insulting name, things that would generally spark such angst in a human being as you have displayed here OVER A RAZOR.  You may need to reevaluate your relationship with this razor; it may not be healthy. You like it.  GREAT!!  I am happy you have a product you like and enjoy. I think it's over priced, overhyped, and ultimately would never purchase; yet, you seem hell bent on denigrating my view because it doesn't coincide with your own.  You are welcome to your views on this razor and I am welcome to mine.  However, insulting someone because their view doesn't coincide with yours and name calling revert one back to the behaviors of a third grade child and that my friend, is ignorance.  Enjoy your razor.
#48
(This post was last modified: 09-23-2015, 02:36 PM by Len.)
Actually, it wasn't Mantic's reviews (  Who is been fortunate enough to be given many prototypes ),  but the many glowing reviews from established members of the Shave Nook and videos on YouTube.  The staff and the members there really didn't have a whole lot of time to waste with people bloviating about something they weren't even willing to try.  It was pretty funny to see Bruce drummed out of there when he wasn't willing to stick to the review.

And yes, you are certainly welcome to your opinion, but it is  an opinion which means nothing  based on a picture on the screen or an idea in the head. Tell me how it shaves man, guess what, you are either speechless or BS'ing.

 And if someone actually shaves with it, and says they hate it, hey, I really appreciate them giving their time to give an honest opinion.   And I absolutely have no problem with them. Your opinion is only worth the dreams in your head without experience. 

And really, I have no angst at all about this. I just want to set the record straight for people who are on the fence, and remind them to pay no heed to people who have no experience.
#49
(This post was last modified: 09-23-2015, 02:49 PM by brucered.)
(09-23-2015, 01:56 PM)Len Wrote: Thanks for the welcome Bruce.

So, you don't believe anyone who owns it, yet you expect people to believe you, who doesn't own it? Nice!


So my question is, who do you work for, that you spend so much time putting down a product you've never used? Or do you just always opine in ignorance?

I don't expect anyone to believe me. I trust my reviews and opinions and that's all I really care about. Doesn't matter oneioda if anyone believe my posts or reviews

I have zero ties to anyone in the shave business or retail for that matter.

Steeleshaves addressed everything else I would have.

All evidence has been buried. All tapes have been erased.
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Gentleman, this thread has reached the point where each post is used to denigrate others. I am, therefore, closing the thread.


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