#51

Wet Shaving Aficionado
N. Los Angeles
(This post was last modified: 06-11-2017, 06:27 PM by TONE Shaves.)
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I have a fixation with Kopi Luwak coffee (Wild Civet). Quite a few fakes out there. Very expensive bean and so there are marketers out there who say you're getting authentic Civet ingested beans but in reality you are getting either no Civet ingested beans or a low ratio mixture with other Sumatran grown beans or even worse, raggety non-Sumatran or Javan grown beans.

There is a lab here in the Los Angeles area that will test your beans for a small fee to authenticate the origin of the beans.

SLC (Sumatera Lintong Coffee) are roasters that belong to what is called the Humbang Cooperative - Coffee farmers dedicated to "forage only" wild beans and do not roast beans that were used with farmed Civet animals and harvested as one would harvest eggs from a chicken farm.

Some people think the idea of Wild Civet coffee is gross, but trust me, it's a very full bodied extremely tasteful coffee.
- TONE
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#52
I've had Kapi Luwak coffee years ago - my brother bought me half a pound and I agree with you that it is a rich, full bodied excellent coffee that any true coffee lover should at least try. As with any product that commands a premium price you are going to have the problem of fakes. Take Kona coffee for instance, the total annual crop is in the neighbourhood of 2 million pounds, however, total annual worldwide sales is close to 20 million pounds. Do the math. Most of it is fake. With respect to the Kapi Luwak, there is a great column written by humorist Dave Barry on the subject where he comments on the issue of fake Kapi Luwak - he says imagine being upset that your coffee has NOT been pooped out by a weaselSmile If I can find the column I'll try to post it. Its pretty funny.

What technique do you use to brew this coffee?
Thanks,
Marko
#53
(06-11-2017, 05:03 PM)Marko Wrote: Take Kona coffee for instance, the total annual crop is in the neighbourhood of 2 million pounds, however, total annual worldwide sales is close to 20 million pounds.  Do the math.  Most of it is fake.  

I think Kona coffee is often sold as a blend, not so often as 100% Kona, so there may be some error in the way it is counted. But agreed that counterfeit is a big problem.

I may have to check out the Civet coffee, although the concept is not very appealing. How much does the Kapi Luwak cost, and where is a reputable place to purchase it?
#54

Wet Shaving Aficionado
N. Los Angeles
(This post was last modified: 06-12-2017, 07:24 AM by TONE Shaves.)
(06-11-2017, 05:03 PM)Marko Wrote: I've had Kapi Luwak coffee years ago - my brother bought me half a pound and I agree with you that it is a rich, full bodied excellent coffee that any true coffee lover should at least try.  As with any product that commands a premium price you are going to have the problem of fakes.  Take Kona coffee for instance, the total annual crop is in the neighbourhood of 2 million pounds, however, total annual worldwide sales is close to 20 million pounds.  Do the math.  Most of it is fake.  With respect to the Kapi Luwak, there is a great column written by humorist Dave Barry on the subject where he comments on the issue of fake Kapi Luwak - he says imagine being upset that your coffee has NOT been pooped out by a weaselSmile  If I can find the column I'll try to post it.  Its pretty funny.  

What technique do you use to brew this coffee?  
Thanks,
Marko

Hahaaa. I can relate. It's crazy when you think about getting upset if your Civet coffee didn't really come from poop.

Well, I am almost as much of a coffee freak as I am a wet shaving freak, so I have various ways that I constantly dabble in making coffee. However, I have only prepared the Civet coffee 3 ways - I have brewed it via 'pour over' method (I have a 4 cup stainless steel Melitta pour over station which I love - through paper cone).  I have also prepared it by standard slow drip brewer (both with my Ninja CF082, and my Teknivorum KBG 741- both with paper cone and stainless steel mesh cone), and lastly by French press.

Although all phenomenal, my absolute favorite was French press method.
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#55

Wet Shaving Aficionado
N. Los Angeles
(This post was last modified: 06-12-2017, 07:34 AM by TONE Shaves.)
(06-11-2017, 05:58 PM)gnocchi Wrote:
(06-11-2017, 05:03 PM)Marko Wrote: Take Kona coffee for instance, the total annual crop is in the neighbourhood of 2 million pounds, however, total annual worldwide sales is close to 20 million pounds.  Do the math.  Most of it is fake.  

I may have to check out the Civet coffee, although the concept is not very appealing. How much does the Kapi Luwak cost, and where is a reputable place to purchase it?

Hey gnocchi, it depends. I've seen it go for a much as around $200.00 a pound for authentic beans. Because there are more Kapi Luwak bean farmers ('foragers') and it's easier to get authentic beans, the coffee can be found considerably less expensive now (but still expensive when you compare it to other roasts). The bag I showed in the photo was about $25-$30 I think, though it's only 100g of whole beans and a pound contains around 450g, so that's about $120.00 a lb. lol.
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#56
(This post was last modified: 06-12-2017, 10:20 AM by DonnerJack.)
You would give Afineur a try. Really great coffee, with a different (and poopless) method of fermenting the beans.


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