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Chester County, PA
(This post was last modified: 01-29-2024, 10:19 PM by dtownvino.)
(01-29-2024, 04:52 PM)mrdoug Wrote:
(01-29-2024, 03:27 PM)Cino Wrote:
(01-25-2024, 07:47 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Contest time! 

Ok so this has been planned for a while now and it’s time to get things going. On April 8th 2024 there will be a total eclipse of the sun and Rochester NY is the largest city to be in the path of totality for this duration in proximity to major cities like NYC and Boston on the east coast. In fact, Rochester has been named one of the best cities to watch the 2024 eclipse by National Geographic, Fodor's and Thrillist. Hotels and Air B&B’s etc are booking up as the city expects thousands of people to come to get a good view of the solar eclipse. I’m doing a one time collectors edition run of the Shave Soap, Skin Food Splash and a Bath Bar Soap. These will sold as sets only  and will also include a pair of  ISO 12312-2 compliant and CE certified eclipse glasses. 

So I have some strong ideas on the scent but I want to  hear some suggestions from you and even more importantly “ a name for the scent “ and if we use the scent and the name you get a full set or if you come up with just the scent or just the name of the scent we end up picking you get a full set. So it’s possible to have 2 winners if one picks out the scent and another picks out a great name for the scent. If I don’t see anything suggestions on the scent and go with one of the ones that I’m thinking of using then there will be just one winner who comes up with just the name of the scent. An I will use one of the names for sure  There’s not a lot of time so I’ll pick a winner on Monday morning at 10 am EST. 

There’s just a couple of simple rules. You  can post up to 3 scents and 3 names BUT YOU HAVE TO QUOTE THIS POST to keep it going as all it takes is one post unrelated to this one ( example) like a SOTD or some product question post to make this contest post not seen especially if the post starts a new page so make sure to quote this post! 

The label seen below is what we are going with and there will be some special packaging for this release/ set. 

So let the contest begin! 

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You are over thinking it.  Just call it "Eclipse".  That's a great name, and you already have the label. 

It should be an evening scent, but easy to wear.   Open with some citrus, like orange, then settle into tobacco and leather, or tobacco and cedar.   You could build on MF, maybe.  I love MF.
It looks like HSSC has a soap called Eclipse, with a similar label. I won't post it, as it feels rude (I don't want to advertise for another provider in Frank's thread). Nonetheless, I'd avoid that name, as it already exists in a similar way.

I like the idea of an evening scent. I don't use scented soaps anymore, but this line of thinking makes sense to me.
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Well, this where things differ in the world of trademarks.  No one is wasting their money on trademarking a scent name of a soap who is an artisan.  Trust me, I'm dealing with Patent and Trademark attorneys often at two of the three largest firms in the US.  

Second, this isn't a "launch" of a new soap, it is a one time commemorative due to the fact that the Total Eclipse passes through the HQ of Ethos (Rochester, NY).  

Next, I also know the label's main image came from shutterstock and has been downloaded more than 100K times.  Frank's graphic designer just enhanced it.  

Many soaps say "Sandalwood", "Bay Rum", "Lavender", etc... the fact that Frank is pointing out a single event with the date on the label shows his intent.

If I owned Ethos I wouldn't change it and I'm pretty conservative when it comes to the legality of intellectual property.

I'll comment one last thing, maybe the other soap company will sell more of their soap after this one time commemorative soap from Ethos.

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#5,112
(01-25-2024, 07:47 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Contest time! 

Ok so this has been planned for a while now and it’s time to get things going. On April 8th 2024 there will be a total eclipse of the sun and Rochester NY is the largest city to be in the path of totality for this duration in proximity to major cities like NYC and Boston on the east coast. In fact, Rochester has been named one of the best cities to watch the 2024 eclipse by National Geographic, Fodor's and Thrillist. Hotels and Air B&B’s etc are booking up as the city expects thousands of people to come to get a good view of the solar eclipse. I’m doing a one time collectors edition run of the Shave Soap, Skin Food Splash and a Bath Bar Soap. These will sold as sets only  and will also include a pair of  ISO 12312-2 compliant and CE certified eclipse glasses. 

So I have some strong ideas on the scent but I want to  hear some suggestions from you and even more importantly “ a name for the scent “ and if we use the scent and the name you get a full set or if you come up with just the scent or just the name of the scent we end up picking you get a full set. So it’s possible to have 2 winners if one picks out the scent and another picks out a great name for the scent. If I don’t see anything suggestions on the scent and go with one of the ones that I’m thinking of using then there will be just one winner who comes up with just the name of the scent. An I will use one of the names for sure  There’s not a lot of time so I’ll pick a winner on Monday morning at 10 am EST. 

There’s just a couple of simple rules. You  can post up to 3 scents and 3 names BUT YOU HAVE TO QUOTE THIS POST to keep it going as all it takes is one post unrelated to this one ( example) like a SOTD or some product question post to make this contest post not seen especially if the post starts a new page so make sure to quote this post! 

The label seen below is what we are going with and there will be some special packaging for this release/ set. 

So let the contest begin! 

[Image: Xp3lGUf.jpg]

Love this idea Frank!!

Names:
Night Shade
Painted Black
Day is Night

Scent Profile:
In honor of the “Flower City”:  Lavender and Black Rose with vanilla, tonka, oud, and oakmoss.  Basically a nod to Tom Ford’s Noir de Noir with some Lavender leading the way.


Thanks for allowing the input!

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#5,113

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New York
(This post was last modified: 01-29-2024, 11:52 PM by mrdoug.)
(01-29-2024, 07:06 PM)dtownvino Wrote:
(01-29-2024, 04:52 PM)mrdoug Wrote:
(01-29-2024, 03:27 PM)Cino Wrote: You are over thinking it.  Just call it "Eclipse".  That's a great name, and you already have the label. 

It should be an evening scent, but easy to wear.   Open with some citrus, like orange, then settle into tobacco and leather, or tobacco and cedar.   You could build on MF, maybe.  I love MF.
It looks like HSSC has a soap called Eclipse, with a similar label. I won't post it, as it feels rude (I don't want to advertise for another provider in Frank's thread). Nonetheless, I'd avoid that name, as it already exists in a similar way.

I like the idea of an evening scent. I don't use scented soaps anymore, but this line of thinking makes sense to me.
Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk

Well, this where things differ in the world of trademarks.  No one is wasting their money on trademarking a scent name of a soap who is an artisan.  Trust me, I'm dealing with Patent and Trademark attorneys often at two of the three largest firms in the US.  

Second, this isn't a "launch" of a new soap, it is a one time commemorative due to the fact that the Total Eclipse passes through the HQ of Ethos (Rochester, NY).  

Next, I also know the label's main image came from shutterstock and has been downloaded more than 100K times.  Frank's graphic designer just enhanced it.  

Many soaps say "Sandalwood", "Bay Rum", "Lavender", etc... the fact that Frank is pointing out a single event with the date on the label shows his intent.

If I owned Ethos I wouldn't change it and I'm pretty conservative when it comes to the legality of intellectual property.

I'll comment one last thing, maybe the other soap company will sell more of their soap after this one time commemorative soap from Ethos.
Very good point... I have to agree, I don't foresee anyone getting sued over a scent name (for the most part... one vendor comes to mind though). It does sound quite trivial.


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#5,114

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Seattle
(01-25-2024, 07:47 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Contest time! 

Ok so this has been planned for a while now and it’s time to get things going. On April 8th 2024 there will be a total eclipse of the sun and Rochester NY is the largest city to be in the path of totality for this duration in proximity to major cities like NYC and Boston on the east coast. In fact, Rochester has been named one of the best cities to watch the 2024 eclipse by National Geographic, Fodor's and Thrillist. Hotels and Air B&B’s etc are booking up as the city expects thousands of people to come to get a good view of the solar eclipse. I’m doing a one time collectors edition run of the Shave Soap, Skin Food Splash and a Bath Bar Soap. These will sold as sets only  and will also include a pair of  ISO 12312-2 compliant and CE certified eclipse glasses. 

So I have some strong ideas on the scent but I want to  hear some suggestions from you and even more importantly “ a name for the scent “ and if we use the scent and the name you get a full set or if you come up with just the scent or just the name of the scent we end up picking you get a full set. So it’s possible to have 2 winners if one picks out the scent and another picks out a great name for the scent. If I don’t see anything suggestions on the scent and go with one of the ones that I’m thinking of using then there will be just one winner who comes up with just the name of the scent. An I will use one of the names for sure  There’s not a lot of time so I’ll pick a winner on Monday morning at 10 am EST. 

There’s just a couple of simple rules. You  can post up to 3 scents and 3 names BUT YOU HAVE TO QUOTE THIS POST to keep it going as all it takes is one post unrelated to this one ( example) like a SOTD or some product question post to make this contest post not seen especially if the post starts a new page so make sure to quote this post! 

The label seen below is what we are going with and there will be some special packaging for this release/ set. 

So let the contest begin! 

[Image: Xp3lGUf.jpg]

Dark Skies
Rising Nyx (Greek Goddess of Night)
Solar Evening
Solar Night

Scent: Grapefruit and Lemongrass

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South Korea
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SOTD Jan 30th

Razor - DOVO PRIMO I
Blade - Gillette Platinu Light Blue
Brush - BarBer.H Dark Pleasure
Soap - ETHOS Grooming Essentials Dragonsbeard
Post - ETHOS Grooming Essentials Dragonsbeard Splash & Serum

What a pleasant shave and smell from this set!!

Everytime I shave with DB, I just feel like I'm in heaven.

I hope you have a great day folks!

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#5,116

Member
Chester County, PA
(01-25-2024, 07:47 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Contest time! 

Ok so this has been planned for a while now and it’s time to get things going. On April 8th 2024 there will be a total eclipse of the sun and Rochester NY is the largest city to be in the path of totality for this duration in proximity to major cities like NYC and Boston on the east coast. In fact, Rochester has been named one of the best cities to watch the 2024 eclipse by National Geographic, Fodor's and Thrillist. Hotels and Air B&B’s etc are booking up as the city expects thousands of people to come to get a good view of the solar eclipse. I’m doing a one time collectors edition run of the Shave Soap, Skin Food Splash and a Bath Bar Soap. These will sold as sets only  and will also include a pair of  ISO 12312-2 compliant and CE certified eclipse glasses. 

So I have some strong ideas on the scent but I want to  hear some suggestions from you and even more importantly “ a name for the scent “ and if we use the scent and the name you get a full set or if you come up with just the scent or just the name of the scent we end up picking you get a full set. So it’s possible to have 2 winners if one picks out the scent and another picks out a great name for the scent. If I don’t see anything suggestions on the scent and go with one of the ones that I’m thinking of using then there will be just one winner who comes up with just the name of the scent. An I will use one of the names for sure  There’s not a lot of time so I’ll pick a winner on Monday morning at 10 am EST. 

There’s just a couple of simple rules. You  can post up to 3 scents and 3 names BUT YOU HAVE TO QUOTE THIS POST to keep it going as all it takes is one post unrelated to this one ( example) like a SOTD or some product question post to make this contest post not seen especially if the post starts a new page so make sure to quote this post! 

The label seen below is what we are going with and there will be some special packaging for this release/ set. 

So let the contest begin! 

[Image: Xp3lGUf.jpg]

Frank, I know the contest is coming to an end.  

How are you leaning?

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(01-30-2024, 11:10 PM)dtownvino Wrote:
(01-25-2024, 07:47 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Contest time! 

Ok so this has been planned for a while now and it’s time to get things going. On April 8th 2024 there will be a total eclipse of the sun and Rochester NY is the largest city to be in the path of totality for this duration in proximity to major cities like NYC and Boston on the east coast. In fact, Rochester has been named one of the best cities to watch the 2024 eclipse by National Geographic, Fodor's and Thrillist. Hotels and Air B&B’s etc are booking up as the city expects thousands of people to come to get a good view of the solar eclipse. I’m doing a one time collectors edition run of the Shave Soap, Skin Food Splash and a Bath Bar Soap. These will sold as sets only  and will also include a pair of  ISO 12312-2 compliant and CE certified eclipse glasses. 

So I have some strong ideas on the scent but I want to  hear some suggestions from you and even more importantly “ a name for the scent “ and if we use the scent and the name you get a full set or if you come up with just the scent or just the name of the scent we end up picking you get a full set. So it’s possible to have 2 winners if one picks out the scent and another picks out a great name for the scent. If I don’t see anything suggestions on the scent and go with one of the ones that I’m thinking of using then there will be just one winner who comes up with just the name of the scent. An I will use one of the names for sure  There’s not a lot of time so I’ll pick a winner on Monday morning at 10 am EST. 

There’s just a couple of simple rules. You  can post up to 3 scents and 3 names BUT YOU HAVE TO QUOTE THIS POST to keep it going as all it takes is one post unrelated to this one ( example) like a SOTD or some product question post to make this contest post not seen especially if the post starts a new page so make sure to quote this post! 

The label seen below is what we are going with and there will be some special packaging for this release/ set. 

So let the contest begin! 

[Image: Xp3lGUf.jpg]

Frank, I know the contest is coming to an end.  

How are you leaning?

Yep tomorrow is the deadline and I’m down to two that seem like they match the project and the potential scent best.

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Ok it's 10 am and as promised I've got a winner to the contest for the Eclipse set. I had it down to 3 then after going back and forth I was down to 2 and after much thought I wasn't sure so I called my son in NYC this morning as he's been home with a case of Covid and I wanted to check up on him. So we started talking and I mentioned I had to pick a name and I was down to 2 and he mentioned a few things that made sense and so that was it. I made my choice. An let me be 100% clear this choice has no bias or about any friendships as almost everyone who submitted some picks I consider friends/customers. This was one of the more difficult decisions as far as picking a name for the Aroma Blend. Just wanted to get that out of the way.  

So the winner is Dave in KY for his pick of " Dark ROC " and the reason I ended up with that has my final pick is based on Rochester which does have that nickname ROC and even our airport goes by those letters. I Like that's it's saying Rochester is going to go dark and that goes along with what this one time release as we won't see another full Eclipse in the US until 2044 and when that happens Rochester won't be a great place to see if from and I know I won't be around to see it as I'll be somewhere else! LOL 

I'll be posting updates as I have more info on the release which will be targeted for the mid March which is 3 weeks from the Eclipse. I've got my packaging lined up and I think you'll like what the set looks like. It will contain a 6 oz jar of the F Base Shave Soap, a Skin Food Splash in a 3.4 oz Bottle and a 4 oz Round Bath Bar Soap in a black metal container and a pair of glasses to view the Eclipse safely. All this will come in a Black Box with a special Sticker on it. I'll post up the price once I get everything figured out as I'm not sure if this is a release that should only be sold on the ETHOS website exclusively because if it goes to my vendors it will affect the final price as their are margins to figure in. I'll have to give this some serious thought and if anyone has any thoughts on that please feel free to message me.  

Congrats Dave! 

As the winner your set will be the first one shipped out. 


Thanks to everyone that participated in this contest and I'm sure there will be more coming up in the future. 

All the best 

Frank 

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Great choice!  Happy2 Congratulations Dave in KY !

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Williamsburg, KY
(01-31-2024, 04:35 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Ok it's 10 am and as promised I've got a winner to the contest for the Eclipse set. I had it down to 3 then after going back and forth I was down to 2 and after much thought I wasn't sure so I called my son in NYC this morning as he's been home with a case of Covid and I wanted to check up on him. So we started talking and I mentioned I had to pick a name and I was down to 2 and he mentioned a few things that made sense and so that was it. I made my choice. An let me be 100% clear this choice has no bias or about any friendships as almost everyone who submitted some picks I consider friends/customers. This was one of the more difficult decisions as far as picking a name for the Aroma Blend. Just wanted to get that out of the way.  

So the winner is Dave in KY for his pick of " Dark ROC " and the reason I ended up with that has my final pick is based on Rochester which does have that nickname ROC and even our airport goes by those letters. I Like that's it's saying Rochester is going to go dark and that goes along with what this one time release as we won't see another full Eclipse in the US until 2044 and when that happens Rochester won't be a great place to see if from and I know I won't be around to see it as I'll be somewhere else! LOL 

I'll be posting updates as I have more info on the release which will be targeted for the mid March which is 3 weeks from the Eclipse. I've got my packaging lined up and I think you'll like what the set looks like. It will contain a 6 oz jar of the F Base Shave Soap, a Skin Food Splash in a 3.4 oz Bottle and a 4 oz Round Bath Bar Soap in a black metal container and a pair of glasses to view the Eclipse safely. All this will come in a Black Box with a special Sticker on it. I'll post up the price once I get everything figured out as I'm not sure if this is a release that should only be sold on the ETHOS website exclusively because if it goes to my vendors it will affect the final price as their are margins to figure in. I'll have to give this some serious thought and if anyone has any thoughts on that please feel free to message me.  

Congrats Dave! 

As the winner your set will be the first one shipped out. 


Thanks to everyone that participated in this contest and I'm sure there will be more coming up in the future. 

All the best 

Frank 

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Wow, excited as I saw a lot of great suggestions. Thanks Frank !

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