ETHOS Grooming Essentials A New Line

Do you have an eta on tonka release yet?

Frank - any update on the non-alcohol skin food splashes?

The Non Alcohol Skin Food Lotions will be released this coming week. 

Do you make ever any aftershaves alcohol free, while on the non alcohol subject?

As I mentioned I make Non Alcohol Skin Food Lotion and it’s a little more viscous than a milk but not thick like a aftershave balm. 

I do think I’ll be offering a Unscented Non Alcohol 
Splash in the Custom Collection with aroma options in a drop down menu. I have been testing my formula and I’m pretty sure it’s ready to go. Just need to design a label and get it up on the website. 

Hope that explains things.  

Thank you!

UPDATE: 

So I’m on a mission to restock all the standard aroma blends in the F Base all while also working on the new Aromas.. 

So today I just made a batch of Succes in the F Base and it’s just gotta sit for a few days as you know I make my F Base in bulk and let it cure for a couple of months. Should be ready to ship out to my vendors towards the end of the week. 
I have to say it’s been a while since I’ve even opened a jar or used mine and I almost forgot how much I enjoy the scent. Place smells great! 


Great shaves!

UPDATE: 

So I’m on a mission to restock all the standard aroma blends in the F Base all while also working on the new Aromas.. 

So today I just made a batch of Succes in the F Base and it’s just gotta sit for a few days as you know I make my F Base in bulk and let it cure for a couple of months. Should be ready to ship out to my vendors towards the end of the week. 
I have to say it’s been a while since I’ve even opened a jar or used mine and I almost forgot how much I enjoy the scent. Place smells great! 


Great shaves!

Ok I need the opinions of some of the members on here. I have to make a big decision soon so all input would be very much appreciated. 

So it was brought to my attention by one of my vendors that the body shaving bars shouldn’t be in a box. He said wet shavers will buy a refill pick of soap and put it in their empty jar but he doesn’t feel that a shaving soap in a box has a lot of appeal to most of his wet shaving customers. He understands this was developed originally for women’s shaving needs mostly along with men who body shave. He also understands that the shave soap works great on the face and head as well and he said all the more reason to get rid of the box. He’s saying not many people want their Shave soap sitting in a soap dish or shower rack like a bath soap. The more I thought about it the more it made sense even though I had made a commitment to the whole idea. He said why do you just put it in a less expensive jar than your regular shave soap is in to help keep the cost down. Of course the first thing I thought about was that but putting it in a jar where you need a brush to load it from almost completely eliminates the women's shavers. I did a bit of a test poll in my area in spas and salons and women where 50% bar soap users and 50% shave cream users. So I do plan to bring out my Vegan Creme for them in an actual tube I wanted to lead out with a real shave soap ( not bath soap ) for them. An the testers really liked it but as my vendor said your testers were a group you knew and your still eliminating the male customers. He said Frank this is a unisex product let’s face it but it’s not in the right package to attract both men and women.  


So here’s what I came up with and tell me what you guys think taking all I’ve mentioned into consideration. 

I’m thinking a Shave Stick. And here’s the pros I came up with. 

1. So no messy bar of soap in the shower 
2. Easy to use for women as they just have to rub it around the area they want to shave and work it in with their hands or a brush which I’ll work on as far as educating them on. I may come out with a Her Shave brush for the Collection that’s egomaniacally good for a women’s needs as I’ve been in talks with a brush maker. An men will use their brushes anyway. 
3. It will be equally easy for a man body or head & face shaver to use. 
4. It would be a nice for travel. 

So below is the shave stick I’ll use only in the larger size. It’s the same as the roll up I use for my First Lather Slickness enhancer/ Lather Booster 

So what do you guys think. 

Stay with the box below or move to a stick? 

Ok I need the opinions of some of the members on here. I have to make a big decision soon so all input would be very much appreciated. 

So it was brought to my attention by one of my vendors that the body shaving bars shouldn’t be in a box. He said wet shavers will buy a refill pick of soap and put it in their empty jar but he doesn’t feel that a shaving soap in a box has a lot of appeal to most of his wet shaving customers. He understands this was developed originally for women’s shaving needs mostly along with men who body shave. He also understands that the shave soap works great on the face and head as well and he said all the more reason to get rid of the box. He’s saying not many people want their Shave soap sitting in a soap dish or shower rack like a bath soap. The more I thought about it the more it made sense even though I had made a commitment to the whole idea. He said why do you just put it in a less expensive jar than your regular shave soap is in to help keep the cost down. Of course the first thing I thought about was that but putting it in a jar where you need a brush to load it from almost completely eliminates the women's shavers. I did a bit of a test poll in my area in spas and salons and women where 50% bar soap users and 50% shave cream users. So I do plan to bring out my Vegan Creme for them in an actual tube I wanted to lead out with a real shave soap ( not bath soap ) for them. An the testers really liked it but as my vendor said your testers were a group you knew and your still eliminating the male customers. He said Frank this is a unisex product let’s face it but it’s not in the right package to attract both men and women.  


So here’s what I came up with and tell me what you guys think taking all I’ve mentioned into consideration. 

I’m thinking a Shave Stick. And here’s the pros I came up with. 

1. So no messy bar of soap in the shower 
2. Easy to use for women as they just have to rub it around the area they want to shave and work it in with their hands or a brush which I’ll work on as far as educating them on. I may come out with a Her Shave brush for the Collection that’s egomaniacally good for a women’s needs as I’ve been in talks with a brush maker. An men will use their brushes anyway. 
3. It will be equally easy for a man body or head & face shaver to use. 
4. It would be a nice for travel. 

So below is the shave stick I’ll use only in the larger size. It’s the same as the roll up I use for my First Lather Slickness enhancer/ Lather Booster 

So what do you guys think. 

Stay with the box below or move to a stick? 

I'm not a consumer of this particular product, but I think the shave stick is the way to go by far.

I bought one of the bars, so I'll chime in...

For me, a traditional shaver, I ended up grating it into a tub I had. It needs to be in a container if I'm going to use it.

Even for women, body shavers, folks who don't use a brush, etc... wouldn't they still prefer something less messy on the hands? The only possible perk for it being loose, in my mind, is if you're shaving your hands. I'm not expecting that to happen.

I like the idea of a shave stick, then. As a byproduct, It also gives you a travel line. Let's face it... Most folks take the less expensive gear for travel. If it's lost, they don't lose out too much. Makes sense for the lower cost soap to double as a travel soap. Like it was meant to be.

I think you have a winning idea there, Frank. That's my 2¢, at least.

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Ok I need the opinions of some of the members on here. I have to make a big decision soon so all input would be very much appreciated. 

So it was brought to my attention by one of my vendors that the body shaving bars shouldn’t be in a box. He said wet shavers will buy a refill pick of soap and put it in their empty jar but he doesn’t feel that a shaving soap in a box has a lot of appeal to most of his wet shaving customers. He understands this was developed originally for women’s shaving needs mostly along with men who body shave. He also understands that the shave soap works great on the face and head as well and he said all the more reason to get rid of the box. He’s saying not many people want their Shave soap sitting in a soap dish or shower rack like a bath soap. The more I thought about it the more it made sense even though I had made a commitment to the whole idea. He said why do you just put it in a less expensive jar than your regular shave soap is in to help keep the cost down. Of course the first thing I thought about was that but putting it in a jar where you need a brush to load it from almost completely eliminates the women's shavers. I did a bit of a test poll in my area in spas and salons and women where 50% bar soap users and 50% shave cream users. So I do plan to bring out my Vegan Creme for them in an actual tube I wanted to lead out with a real shave soap ( not bath soap ) for them. An the testers really liked it but as my vendor said your testers were a group you knew and your still eliminating the male customers. He said Frank this is a unisex product let’s face it but it’s not in the right package to attract both men and women.  


So here’s what I came up with and tell me what you guys think taking all I’ve mentioned into consideration. 

I’m thinking a Shave Stick. And here’s the pros I came up with. 

1. So no messy bar of soap in the shower 
2. Easy to use for women as they just have to rub it around the area they want to shave and work it in with their hands or a brush which I’ll work on as far as educating them on. I may come out with a Her Shave brush for the Collection that’s egomaniacally good for a women’s needs as I’ve been in talks with a brush maker. An men will use their brushes anyway. 
3. It will be equally easy for a man body or head & face shaver to use. 
4. It would be a nice for travel. 

So below is the shave stick I’ll use only in the larger size. It’s the same as the roll up I use for my First Lather Slickness enhancer/ Lather Booster 

So what do you guys think. 

Stay with the box below or move to a stick? 

Being a true minority on this forum that actually body shaves regularly, here is my feedback.

Been using Tabac sticks for travel and body shave touch ups for at least 5 years. They great for that but for any growth of body hair beyond a few days, not so well and get embedded hairs even when 'cleaned'.  For weekly body shaving the canned goop for women such as Skintimate actually best used to date by far. Most protective, best glide and best smooth results. Realize it counterintuitive as canned goop is terrible for facial shaving but honestly, the female hygiene companies really have it dialed in for body shaving (convinced they know most men will just live with a substandard product but women will raise Hell - agreed married guys?).  Further, most women known these days are waxing

I like the shave stick idea.

Shave stick    

I think either way is fine, Frank. I don't think it is much of a chore to just put the soap bar in a hinged plastic bath soap container in between uses.