ETHOS Grooming Essentials A New Line

Envy you folk owning Safi; it may be the single greatest soap created to date.  The combination with Derby Chop Shop AS is incredibly compelling with its sweet and boozy tone imparting the sense of a classic gentleman of means

Wish desperately was not so burdened financially at the moment or would buy a big tub in a heartbeat.

I had to patiently watch the BST's until I could get one in my budget so I completely understand and never thought I'd be able to get one. I was fortunate a kind member had it priced Gentlemanly  I've returned the favor by pifing 2 soaps that came with it to others so far as I felt they were bonuses.

Would like to clarify, that in no way am suggesting it overpriced.  Know fully the time and expense it took to develop this breakthrough soap

Would like to clarify, that in no way am suggesting it overpriced.  Know fully the time and expense it took to develop this breakthrough soap

Absolutely worth the asking. Frank isn't responsible for my pauper status

Wow I have a lot of posts to respond to and I will when I get time a little later.. 

The reason for this post is to inform anyone on here that ordered from ETHOS this weekend that on Saturday night unbeknown to me we had a complete blackout at the Warehouse Complex where my warehouse is located in. I found out early this morning that it will not be fixed until late tonight or early tomorrow morning so I wanted to let anyone that ordered that there will be a bit of a hold up on when the orders go out. Our shipping days are Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays as I work in the labs on Tuesdays and Thursdays. So Wednesday is the first day we can get to them. 

I thank you for your patience and understanding of the situation. 

Best regards! 

Frank 

Frank

Regarding the use of synthetic AO's in Ethos products.

When in doubt about a decision like this, always go back to the mission statement.  In Ethos case this is:

ETHOS Grooming Essentials formulas are developed using the deep-rooted knowledge I’ve gained throughout the years of personal care R&D to provide my customers with grooming products that deliver optimum results. It has become a passion of mine to source the globe in search of the earth's most beneficial naturally derived ingredients and aromatics to create the culturally inspired Ethos Collections and all the products that are found in each one of the Collections.

The Ethos mission statement answers the question regarding the use of synthetic AO's in Ethos products. If you compromise once on the basis of price, you start down a vey slippery slope.

If a product is not meant to be technically, that's OK.  

If the product would be very high priced, that is also OK as you have always been open that your product pricing structure is based on the ingredients involved.  If a customer is insisting on a specific product, he should also be willing to pay the price necessary to produce the product in accordance with the quality standards in the mission statement.  If he cannot afford the product, that is unfortunate, but is not a reason for you to compromise your, or your company's, standards.  

Hope this encourages you to keep up the good fight.

Thank you for your input and I do have some standards that I work hard to keep up. With that said in regards to using anything synthetic. I’d like to embellish on that. In the world of aromas there are quite a few choices and a broad range of pricing on these aroma ingredients. So starting at the low end there are inexpensive synthetic candle and soap making fragrance oils and I don’t use them but when you get into creating your own aroma blends especially for perfumes then most use Aroma Accords and yes they are also man made but there are some that have natural beginnings but they are aroma chemicals bottom line. Of course then there are the natural essential oils, resins, wood oils, absolutes, animal derived aroma ingredient like Civet for example and CO2 extracts etc etc With that said there are certain target aromas that would be impossible to achieve without using let’s say an aroma accord. For example in my Pineapple Noir blend I had to use some accords because there’s no such thing as Pineapple Essential oil. I did blend the accords with a bunch of essential oils to create the scent but it would not be achievable using only Essential oils. I’m doing one now called Mandarino Fumo that is like 95% natural but the scent calls for Leather and there is no such thing as Leather Essential oil so I used a high quality Leather accord. so I’m not opposed to using whatever it takes to get me to the target scent but I do have my limits and standards and lines I won’t cross.
I guess what I’m trying to say is some of the members asked me to try and replicate or get close to the Fine Santal Absolut or the Vintage AOS Sandalwood scent. I could probably easily get really close using all Essential oils but there’s one stipulation and it’s to keep it reasonably priced. That would not be financially possible if I used authentic high quality Mysore Sandalwood oil your looking at low end $400 an oz and Vintage can be close to double that. So I have a plan on how I can create this duplicate using both natural Sandalwood essential oils along with the other 3 other essential oils in the blend and adding one Mysore accord and I can still keep the price somewhat reasonable.

So I don’t feel like I’d be lowering my standards but I feel like it presents a challenge which is something I enjoy.

Hope that explains my take on the subject.

Again thank you for your input.

Frank

Regarding the use of synthetic AO's in Ethos products.

When in doubt about a decision like this, always go back to the mission statement.  In Ethos case this is:

ETHOS Grooming Essentials formulas are developed using the deep-rooted knowledge I’ve gained throughout the years of personal care R&D to provide my customers with grooming products that deliver optimum results. It has become a passion of mine to source the globe in search of the earth's most beneficial naturally derived ingredients and aromatics to create the culturally inspired Ethos Collections and all the products that are found in each one of the Collections.

The Ethos mission statement answers the question regarding the use of synthetic AO's in Ethos products. If you compromise once on the basis of price, you start down a vey slippery slope.

If a product is not meant to be technically, that's OK.  

If the product would be very high priced, that is also OK as you have always been open that your product pricing structure is based on the ingredients involved.  If a customer is insisting on a specific product, he should also be willing to pay the price necessary to produce the product in accordance with the quality standards in the mission statement.  If he cannot afford the product, that is unfortunate, but is not a reason for you to compromise your, or your company's, standards.  

Hope this encourages you to keep up the good fight.

Thank you for your input and I do have some standards that I work hard to keep up. With that said in regards to using anything synthetic. I’d like to embellish on that. In the world of aromas there are quite a few choices and a broad range of pricing on these aroma ingredients. So starting at the low end there are inexpensive synthetic candle and soap making fragrance oils and I don’t use them but when you get into creating your own aroma blends especially for perfumes then most use Aroma Accords and yes they are also man made but there are some that have natural beginnings but they are aroma chemicals bottom line. Of course then there are the natural essential oils, resins, wood oils, absolutes, animal derived aroma ingredient like Civet for example and CO2 extracts etc etc With that said there are certain target aromas that would be impossible to achieve without using let’s say an aroma accord. For example in my Pineapple Noir blend I had to use some accords because there’s no such thing as Pineapple Essential oil. I did blend the accords with a bunch of essential oils to create the scent but it would not be achievable using only Essential oils. I’m doing one now called Mandarino Fumo that is like 95% natural but the scent calls for Leather and there is no such thing as Leather Essential oil so I used a high quality Leather accord. so I’m not opposed to using whatever it takes to get me to the target scent but I do have my limits and standards and lines I won’t cross.
I guess what I’m trying to say is some of the members asked me to try and replicate or get close to the Fine Santal Absolut or the Vintage AOS Sandalwood scent. I could probably easily get really close using all Essential oils but there’s one stipulation and it’s to keep it reasonably priced. That would not be financially possible if I used authentic high quality Mysore Sandalwood oil your looking at low end $400 an oz and Vintage can be close to double that. So I have a plan on how I can create this duplicate using both natural Sandalwood essential oils along with the other 3 other essential oils in the blend and adding one Mysore accord and I can still keep the price somewhat reasonable.

So I don’t feel like I’d be lowering my standards but I feel like it presents a challenge which is something I enjoy.

Hope that explains my take on the subject.

Again thank you for your input.

Thanks Frank. We are ready for your creation - Fine Santal and I Colonai Mango! Giddy up!

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How's the Coloniali dupe going 

In regards to a sandalwood scent, I wouldn't care if it was not 100% all natural. One of my favorites was from Panna Crema shave soap early on and I think it was sandalwood and incense but it had a very nice, smooth and sweet side to it and I don't think it was all EO or natural extracts. That's my best guess but as long as it smells good, I am happy to avoid the most pure form that may be weaker and more expensive.

Thank you for the input and the incense note sounds appealing and makes sense. 

Congratulations Frank getting listed on Base Notes. Well deserved, sir!

Thank you my good friend! Hope all is well with you! 

For me, if it smells good I am ready to use it.
BTW - We are ready your the Franky Fine AOS Sandalo pux/splash. Count me in for a lifetime supply.

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Thanks for the encouraging words. I’m getting more aggressive with this project. 

Congratulations Frank.  It is a well earned sign of recognition.

Thank you my friend! 

Frank

Regarding the use of synthetic AO's in Ethos products.

When in doubt about a decision like this, always go back to the mission statement.  In Ethos case this is:

ETHOS Grooming Essentials formulas are developed using the deep-rooted knowledge I’ve gained throughout the years of personal care R&D to provide my customers with grooming products that deliver optimum results. It has become a passion of mine to source the globe in search of the earth's most beneficial naturally derived ingredients and aromatics to create the culturally inspired Ethos Collections and all the products that are found in each one of the Collections.

The Ethos mission statement answers the question regarding the use of synthetic AO's in Ethos products. If you compromise once on the basis of price, you start down a vey slippery slope.

If a product is not meant to be technically, that's OK.  

If the product would be very high priced, that is also OK as you have always been open that your product pricing structure is based on the ingredients involved.  If a customer is insisting on a specific product, he should also be willing to pay the price necessary to produce the product in accordance with the quality standards in the mission statement.  If he cannot afford the product, that is unfortunate, but is not a reason for you to compromise your, or your company's, standards.  

Hope this encourages you to keep up the good fight.

Thank you for your input and I do have some standards that I work hard to keep up.  With that said in regards to using anything synthetic. I’d like to embellish on that.  In the world of aromas there are quite a few choices and a broad range of pricing on these aroma ingredients.  So starting at the low end there are inexpensive  synthetic candle and soap making fragrance oils and I don’t use them but when you get into creating your own aroma blends especially for perfumes then most use Aroma Accords and yes they are also man made but there are some that have natural beginnings but they are aroma chemicals bottom line. Of course then there are the natural essential oils, resins, wood oils, absolutes, animal derived aroma ingredient like Civet for example and CO2 extracts etc etc  With that said there are certain target aromas that would be impossible to achieve without using let’s say an aroma accord. For example in my Pineapple Noir blend I had to use some accords  because there’s no such thing as Pineapple Essential oil. I did blend the accords with a bunch of essential oils to create the scent but it would not be achievable using only Essential oils. I’m doing one now called Mandarino Fumo that is like 95% natural but the scent calls for Leather and there is no such thing as Leather Essential oil so I used a high quality Leather accord. so I’m not opposed to using whatever it takes to get me to the target scent but I do have my limits and standards and lines I won’t cross.
I guess what I’m trying to say is some of the members asked me to try and replicate or get close to the Fine Santal Absolut or the Vintage AOS Sandalwood scent. I could probably easily get really close using all Essential oils but there’s one stipulation and it’s to keep it reasonably priced.  That would not be financially possible if I used authentic high quality Mysore Sandalwood oil your looking at low end  $400 an oz and Vintage can be close to double that. So I have a plan on how I can create this duplicate using both natural Sandalwood essential oils along with the other 3 other essential oils in the blend and adding one Mysore accord and I can still keep the price somewhat reasonable.

So I don’t feel like I’d be lowering my standards but I feel like it presents a challenge which is something I enjoy. 

Hope that explains my take on the subject.

Again thank you for your input.

Thanks Frank. We are ready for your creation - Fine Santal and I Colonai Mango! Giddy up!

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The Fine/Vintage AOS is coming along and I’m just waiting a larger amount of one of the essential oils to get started making it  The I Colonaiol Mango is on the back burner for now as I have other projects planned. Also need larger samples of it.  An a decent amount of the splash would help.  

Thank you for the encouragement!

Quick question -

How is the V3 better than v2 for dragonsbeard? I know it’s a harder base, but what are the differences lather wise? Or are there any?

Quick question -

How is the V3 better than v2 for dragonsbeard? I know it’s a harder base, but what are the differences lather wise? Or are there any?

Hello my friend it's been a while. 


Ok so as far as the Aroma blend goes that hasn't changed from V2 to V3 in as it's 100% Natural and in fact it was in the V2 Version that I made the changes from V1. Your right as far as bases go in regards to firmness. The V2 used my old Standard base or as it's known now as S Base. The new S Base is in my opinion not only firmer but improved as far as performance goes but it's not like a OMG difference from the original. A little slicker in my opinon is the most noticeable. The new V3 Dragonsbeard comes in the new F Base ( For Firmer ) and theres a noticeable difference between the F Base and the S Base as I think the F Base is a little Slicker but the post shave is where I think they are noticeably different. In the S Base the post shave is noticeable shortly after rinsing and patting dry the face whereas the F Base is almost like it's time released. It takes about 35 to 45 minutes after rinsing and you begin to notice a progressive increase in soft face feel and it seems to continue for hours in this manner. It never feels oily, waxy or sticky. just soft and supple feeling. The Dragonsbeard also comes in my new Non Tallow Shave Creme and to me it's closer to the V2 version which was fairly soft and definitely a croap. The Shave Creme is just that as it a cream and not a croap. 

Hope that explains and if you have any more questions feel free to shoot an email or pm me. 

Great Shaves 

Frank

Ok so I made a custom order for two of my customers of this aroma blend. It’s pretty simple. Lemon, Lime & Ginger EO’ and a little effervescent accord I came across that really does give a Ginger Ale vibe to it. Really Fresh and Clean and I’m definitely making this as a roll out in the spring for sure.  So I have two 4.75 oz Shave Cremes with the Personal Blend White labels on them.  If anyone is interested please let me know. Oh and I made one for myself as I’m a little obsessed with this scent and also in the Skin Food Splash. 

Pm or email me. 

UPDATE: One of the two are gone.