Chatillon Lux Provisions and Chatillon Lux Parfums

Thanks hawns I think I might risk it depending on the long range forecast. If we're in for a stretch of -30 I will likely wait. No worries on the missed reply, things get busy and stuff happens - I even miss stuff
Mark

hawns will Bon Vivant or any of your non-alcohol based aftershaves be negatively affected by freezing in transit?  Also, are they in glass containers?  I've had some negative experiences with freezing in transit and glass containers can break from the expansion.  Certain items can only be purchased in warmer months.

I want to try your products as you are one of the only artisans I'm aware of that specializes in only aftershaves so I'm thinking they must be good.

Thanks,
Mark

I do indeed subscribe to the "jack of all trades, master of none" philosophy, Mark. A big reason why we only do aftershaves. Hopefully you'd enjoy them!

We do use glass containers and there is always a chance of freezing. The expansion on the salves shouldn't be an issue, because they are a pretty thick paste. Also, in the toner bottles we leave a little bit of room so that it can be shaken up before use. Additionally, there is a very small amount of alcohol in the toner from the herbal extracts, so possibly that could slow down the freezing process. On the other hand, I can't make any promises, but will certainly replace anything that arrives unusable.

So far we have not had any items negatively affected by freezing temperatures, including shipping up to Scandanavian countries, but this is our first winter, so far. It was more of a problem during the triple-digit-temperature parts of the summer when the heat would melt the shea-butter-based products, which is one of a few reasons we switched to glass jars for the salve.

But the short and skinny of it is that if you do order and they show up unusable, then we'll go ahead and replace them, no problem. But I understand if you don't want to risk dealing with the hassle, because when I order something then it sucks when it shows up and I can't use it, even if you do know a replacement will come shortly.

Edit: Also, sorry I missed your question above! I was on mobile and totally scrolled past it. My fault!

Thanks hawns I think I might risk it depending on the long range forecast. If we're in for a stretch of -30 I will likely wait. No worries on the missed reply, things get busy and stuff happens - I even miss stuff
Mark

Glad we're on the same page! And I almost always get things shipped out the same day, or the day after the order at the very latest, so we'll be ready to help you take advantage of a "warm" (I use that term relatively consider your frigid conditions) streak of weather if it pops up.

hawns I just placed an order on your online store, it looks like we might have a break in the weather. We get dramatically variable temperatures on the eastern slopes of the Rockies. It can go from -30C (-22F) to +15C (50F) literally in a matter of hours - warm chinook winds blow in and everything melts fast. It goes the other way just as fast though which is a bit bracing. Its nice to get a break but the variation and pressure changes wreaks havoc on lots of people. In any case I hope your products arrive with no weather related impact.
Thanks,
Mark

hawns I just placed an order on your online store, it looks like we might have a break in the weather. We get dramatically variable temperatures on the eastern slopes of the Rockies. It can go from -30C (-22F) to +15C (50F) literally in a matter of hours - warm chinook winds blow in and everything melts fast. It goes the other way just as fast though which is a bit bracing. Its nice to get a break but the variation and pressure changes wreaks havoc on lots of people. In any case I hope your products arrive with no weather related impact.
Thanks,
Mark

I had a feeling that was you! I packed it up last night and am going to drop it off at the post office during lunch. I've been having really good luck with Canadian shipments being delivered quickly lately, so knocking on wood that the trend continues! Thank you for your order, Mark, and I hope it does you well up in the Great White North!

Also, that shift in temperatures pretty much just blew my mind. That's nuts! Next time someone talks about how quickly the weather changes here in St. Louis, I'm going to tell them that they have no idea what they are talking about.

hawns I just placed an order on your online store, it looks like we might have a break in the weather.  We get dramatically variable temperatures on the eastern slopes of the Rockies.  It can go from -30C (-22F) to +15C (50F) literally in a matter of hours - warm chinook winds blow in and everything melts fast. It goes the other way just as fast though which is a bit bracing.  Its nice to get a break but the variation and pressure changes wreaks havoc on lots of people.  In any case I hope your products arrive with no weather related impact.
Thanks,
Mark

I had a feeling that was you! I packed it up last night and am going to drop it off at the post office during lunch. I've been having really good luck with Canadian shipments being delivered quickly lately, so knocking on wood that the trend continues! Thank you for your order, Mark, and I hope it does you well up in the Great White North!

Also, that shift in temperatures pretty much just blew my mind. That's nuts! Next time someone talks about how quickly the weather changes here in St. Louis, I'm going to tell them that they have no idea what they are talking about.

hawns, thanks! I saw the shipment notification in my inbox this morning - fast.  I'm looking forward to trying your products. I'm going to take a stab at doing a coherent review of the products for the membership if thats alright with you.  If I have any questions when I'm preparing the review I'll be sure to reach out to you.

I love the historical angle you are using with a connection to the local history of the St. Louis region.  The influence of the French was extensive in the early days of North American settlement. I'm from the Montreal area originally and French Canadian on my mother's side.  We've been in Canada over 375 years on the french side so seeing the (obviously) french connection in your local history is interesting to me.

The weather - those winds are called chinook winds its either a Crow or Blackfoot word for snow eater because the warm rides in on sometimes very strong winds and the snow disappears very quickly - it makes growing things challenging because many things can't survive multiple freeze-thaw cycles. Roses are very difficult here.  Not to get political or anything but there was some recent press surrounding the release of a movie that was filmed near here and the lead actor (DiCaprio) commented on experiencing bizarre temperature swings that apparently the locals said they'd never seen before and he used this to go off on climate change.  Everyone here collectively rolled their eyes.   Not sure where they found their "locals" but anybody who has spent a winter in southern Alberta knows all about chinooks and they've been happening since the Rocky Mountains were formed.  
Thanks
Mark

hawns, thanks! I saw the shipment notification in my inbox this morning - fast.  I'm looking forward to trying your products. I'm going to take a stab at doing a coherent review of the products for the membership if thats alright with you.  If I have any questions when I'm preparing the review I'll be sure to reach out to you.

I love the historical angle you are using with a connection to the local history of the St. Louis region.  The influence of the French was extensive in the early days of North American settlement. I'm from the Montreal area originally and French Canadian on my mother's side.  We've been in Canada over 375 years on the french side so seeing the (obviously) french connection in your local history is interesting to me.

The weather - those winds are called chinook winds its either a Crow or Blackfoot word for snow eater because the warm rides in on sometimes very strong winds and the snow disappears very quickly - it makes growing things challenging because many things can't survive multiple freeze-thaw cycles. Roses are very difficult here.  Not to get political or anything but there was some recent press surrounding the release of a movie that was filmed near here and the lead actor (DiCaprio) commented on experiencing bizarre temperature swings that apparently the locals said they'd never seen before and he used this to go off on climate change.  Everyone here collectively rolled their eyes.   Not sure where they found their "locals" but anybody who has spent a winter in southern Alberta knows all about chinooks and they've been happening since the Rocky Mountains were formed.  
Thanks
Mark

Ha, that sounds about right. I've come to the conclusion that to be an actor you have to be a completely empty vessel, so it's not their fault that they are clueless regarding just about everything. But that sounds about right. I don't even live there and my eyes are rolling.

And I guess we have kind of a connection. Gratiot League Square was named after Charles Gratiot, who began his trading career in Montreal before moving down to St. Louis. Although you would probably do a lot of eye rolling if you heard the French patois that is used around St. Louis, what with your French Canadian roots. And they didn't even mention that DeBaliviere is pronounced "day-BALL-eh-ver."

Anyway, feel free to reach out for any information and to review away. I always love to hear what people think!

Similar here to some degree and we joke that Austin has four seasons. Often in one day.

Look forward to your review Marko.

And hawns, can't wait for you to drop my alcohol based AS off at lunch soon.

PS. saw The Revenant this past weekend. I had read and enjoyed the book some time ago and was also familiar with the history of Hugh Glass from a non-fiction perspective.

I found the movie to be just Ok but perhaps my expectations were too high going in. The scenery was spectacular and it made me want to visit for some back country fun.

hawns its always fascinating to see how language evolves in different settings - the french that is spoken in Quebec differs from region to region depending upon who settled it and what the influences were. Around Montreal a strong Scots influence led to a particular pronunciation, up around Quebec city more Irish and they have a sing-song lilt. In the eastern townships its different altogether. Wherever you go Quebecers listen and judge you by your accent. I moved away when I was 4 1/2 and I didn't speak any english. In the meantime I've picked it up and my french is a bit rusty but I wasn't in Montreal speaking french long enough to pick up the local accent. As a consequence when I'm in the province speaking french to a local they're a bit confused because I speak french very well without an english accent but they can't place me in their catalogue of local accents. I have found some of the American pronunciation of franc names interesting - Benoit for instance, I would pronounce it Ben-Wah whereas you likely pronounce it Ben-oyt and lets not even start with the Cajuns. One thing is for certain though and that is that those in France scowl at everybody else's use of the language.
Mark

Similar here to some degree and we joke that Austin has four seasons. Often in one day.

Look forward to your review Marko.

And hawns, can't wait for you to drop my alcohol based AS off at lunch soon.

PS. saw The Revenant this past weekend. I had read and enjoyed the book some time ago and was also familiar with the history of Hugh Glass from a non-fiction perspective.

I found the movie to be just Ok but perhaps my expectations were too high going in. The scenery was spectacular and it made me want to visit for some back country fun.

I'm going to have a hard time taking in that movie. I posted some fall pictures of the countryside just west of here in the photo section - it has its rugged beauty that's for sure.
Mark

Hi Shawn, I received my package of AS and balm recently, they smell incredible - tomorrow is the scheduled trial, it should be fun. I also ordered today a jar of your pre-shave butter. I'm hoping butter is an improvement on mrglo , we'll see.

Thanks,
Mark