#31
(04-11-2021, 08:40 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: ...3) Wolfman threads and certain other words are still filtered in the bst section and will automatically lock the thread...


I have no dog in this fight, but why are Wolfman threads in the BST specifically filtered and the thread locked? What are "certain other words" as well?   Huh   Is this a case of blaming the "gun" and not the criminal? Dare I say...............censorship?   Dodgy  

The problems here are not caused by inanimate and nonsentient objects, but rather by people. Don't make everyone wear a "diaper" for the few that sh&* their britches.

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#32

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
(09-23-2021, 05:28 AM)BPman Wrote:
(04-11-2021, 08:40 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: ...3) Wolfman threads and certain other words are still filtered in the bst section and will automatically lock the thread...


I have no dog in this fight, but why are Wolfman threads in the BST specifically filtered and the thread locked? What are "certain other words" as well?   Huh   Is this a case of blaming the "gun" and not the criminal? Dare I say...............censorship?   Dodgy  

The problems here are not caused by inanimate and nonsentient objects, but rather by people. Don't make everyone wear a "diaper" for the few that sh&* their britches.
For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....

Because Wolfman threads always devolve into a bickering match and frankly, I don't make enough money from this site to devote such a large amount of time to moderating those threads manually...so I had a system built to automate it for me. Big Grin

Likewise, the mod team makes $0 from their hard efforts and time in keeping the site running along smoothly. I can't possibly ask them spend a bulk of their time in the bst...

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#33
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?
#34

Super Moderator
San Diego, Cal., USA
(09-23-2021, 03:15 PM)BPman Wrote:
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?

You certainly have a right to your opinion and perhaps there are greener pastures out there in the internet world.  However, I can honestly say that after helping to moderate three separate sites, the more things change, the more they stay the same.  No, we cannot get rid of everyone just because you think your ideas are right and the site's wrong.  Having a free exchange of ideas but knowing when and how to put a limit on some things is never easy and never will be.  Your hardline 'suggestions' are every bit as wrong spirited as the things you are complaining about.  The moderators here (and I am including andrewjs18 as a moderator as well as the administrator) work together when major problems arise and, even as a moderating group, we don't work in lockstep with each other.  Sometimes we are all agreed on a solution and sometimes not but we try to do what is best for the health of the site.  You are free to disagree but that's the way it is.

As for your assessment of what is new, anyone is able to introduce a new product no matter the cost.  While there are, indeed, many high end products shown, there are also stellar moderately priced products that come out that a lot of us look forward to.  The Stirling Soap Co. is one such company with affordable products that a lot of us look forward to hearing about its latest shave soaps, razors, brushes, bath soaps, etc.  We even discuss simple readily available products like cartridge razors.

I find your whole post to be completely disingenuous.  What surprises me is that you have been around DFS long enough to see how it operates and to add many positive posts to the knowledge base here.

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#35

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
(09-23-2021, 03:15 PM)BPman Wrote:
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?

we did nip it in the bud by automatically locking ALL wolfman threads in the bst. sure, 1 may get past the filtering here and there but the system I devised does a pretty good job at catching them.

there's no need to shill on DFS - we don't stop anyone from posting about products they like or use, nor do we prevent anyone from posting links to artisan/vendor/merchant websites whether they're a paying merchant on DFS or not. heck, we don't even stop people from posting links to ebay and the like.

DFS is, first and foremost, a discussion forum...

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#36

Member
New York
(09-23-2021, 06:19 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(09-23-2021, 03:15 PM)BPman Wrote:
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?

we did nip it in the bud by automatically locking ALL wolfman threads in the bst. sure, 1 may get past the filtering here and there but the system I devised does a pretty good job at catching them.

there's no need to shill on DFS - we don't stop anyone from posting about products they like or use, nor do we prevent anyone from posting links to artisan/vendor/merchant websites whether they're a paying merchant on DFS or not. heck, we don't even stop people from posting links to ebay and the like.

DFS is, first and foremost, a discussion forum...
...and yet look at the huge list of (presumably paying) vendors. It speaks to (1) How DFS' relaxed system does really work and (2) The honestly and integrity of each and every vendor in that section.

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#37

Member
Illinois
(09-23-2021, 03:15 PM)BPman Wrote:
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?

...and yet you are here almost daily on this forum!! If its as bad as you claim it to be, why do you still frequent it as often as you do?

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#38

Veni, vidi, vici
Vault 111
(09-23-2021, 06:19 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(09-23-2021, 03:15 PM)BPman Wrote:
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?

we did nip it in the bud by automatically locking ALL wolfman threads in the bst.  sure, 1 may get past the filtering here and there but the system I devised does a pretty good job at catching them. 

there's no need to shill on DFS - we don't stop anyone from posting about products they like or use, nor do we prevent anyone from posting links to artisan/vendor/merchant websites whether they're a paying merchant on DFS or not.  heck, we don't even stop people from posting links to ebay and the like. 

DFS is, first and foremost, a discussion forum...

Well said, Andrew.

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#39
(09-23-2021, 10:42 PM)muzichead Wrote:
(09-23-2021, 03:15 PM)BPman Wrote:
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?

...and yet you are here almost daily on this forum!! If its as bad as you claim it to be, why do you still frequent it as often as you do?


No, not really. I glance at some things, but don't post much anymore. Maybe I'll be around for the Mk III version after the "Darkbulb Effect" has run its course.
#40
(09-23-2021, 06:19 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(09-23-2021, 03:15 PM)BPman Wrote:
Quote:For some reason I feel like you're trying to troll, but....


Hardly, but let me state the obvious that the mgmt. here seems to be missing in the overall scheme. Why don't you simply eliminate those people who seem to causing issues in your BST threads? You have allowed some to "nest" here in this forum who have turned it into a "country club" of snobbery that quite frankly has damn near ruined it. You have allowed some vendors to obtain basically what amounts to free advertising via virtual "shilling" when this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. There is a total lack of almost anything new re topics unless it is priced beyond the means of the average wet shaver, let alone any new person who may be lurking and thinking of joining. It has become an "echo chamber" as such. These matters should have been attended to years ago, but they have not. As such, this forum is headed to be simply another Shavemyface unless you start swinging the sword. 

Your average wet shaver cannot afford $400 razors nor $35 soaps. The clue phone is ringing. Are you smart enough to pick it up?

we did nip it in the bud by automatically locking ALL wolfman threads in the bst. sure, 1 may get past the filtering here and there but the system I devised does a pretty good job at catching them.

there's no need to shill on DFS - we don't stop anyone from posting about products they like or use, nor do we prevent anyone from posting links to artisan/vendor/merchant websites whether they're a paying merchant on DFS or not. heck, we don't even stop people from posting links to ebay and the like.

DFS is, first and foremost, a discussion forum...

This is the only place I feel comfortable just posting anything I happen to see in terms of what I have seen from various vendors and the such. Anywhere else I won't do it as it is usually a sore spot and just leads to problems. Reason we get lots of posts about such expensive stuff is because the vocal part likes to talk about the latest stuff out there, and it just so happens the expensive stuff is what gets a lot of press. Personally I see no problems here. There are other items that get press, but as it stands, there are forums with higher membership as well. Use what you like.

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