Blackland new SE razor.

A few thoughts on weight and balance.  My experiments have led me to favor a 2/5 head to 3/5 handle weight balance.
In the case of the Vector, that would lead me to favor a titanium handle over a stainless steel one.
Tibam_handle  on eBay makes excellent titanium handles.  I have one at 76 mm that weighs 30 g that I use on my General.
The model I have is called Sample 12.  I will no doubt try it on the Vector, once I obtain one. Here's a link to it:

https://damnfineshave.com/thread-new-tit...rom-russia

So, it’s a first review that seems kind of ho-hum. States that it’s a mid-aggressive feeling razor. Doesn’t really touch much else on shave feel but, at least it seems that it’s not a mild razor. Not much info to go by. I hate YT vids some times, it’s either extremely underwhelming or overly hyped. One is going to have to find out for oneself. Besides, Blackland has a 30 day try and drive. Nothing to lose there. I’m still in.....

https://youtu.be/t5qxrRfIfv4

It's a nice frame but a nice frame on a SE razor doesn't make the shave as it does with a thin DE blade. There's just no way around this fundamental design aspect . I'm sure Shane has done a great job with this I but I don't expect anybody to be wowed by the shave of one AC razor vs another, other than issues like maneuverability and balance.

So, it’s a first review that seems kind of ho-hum. States that it’s a mid-aggressive feeling razor. Doesn’t really touch much else on shave feel but, at least it seems that it’s not a mild razor. Not much info to go by. I hate YT vids some times, it’s either extremely underwhelming or overly hyped. One is going to have to find out for oneself. Besides, Blackland has a 30 day try and drive. Nothing to lose there. I’m still in.....

https://youtu.be/t5qxrRfIfv4

I just don't understand how he is going in that movie more then a dozen times over the same spots. I've shaved for many years with Feather Artist blades and I don't have sensitive skin (I shave twice a day) but if I where to do that I'll have no skin left.No matter the reviews I'm going to buy one and see for myself.

It's a nice frame but a nice frame on a SE razor doesn't make the shave as it does with a thin DE blade. There's just no way around this fundamental design aspect . I'm sure Shane has done a great job with this I but I don't expect anybody to be wowed by the shave of one AC razor vs another, other than issues like maneuverability and  balance.

I would have to disagree with you there. It makes a tremendous difference to the performance of the razor and isn’t any different than a DE razor. There’s this concept floating around that a DE head is a complicated bit of engineering and an SE is just a blade holder. I’m happy to confirm that they both take the same amount of effort to design and the exact same considerations go into making each type.

Not my experience, nor does it even make logical sense. SE razors hold the blade, they don't manipulate it to increase rigidity as DE razors do. Obviously angle, clamping, gap, and exposure can impact the shave but that's pretty much it. Unless I'm missing something with what is being done here.

It's a nice frame but a nice frame on a SE razor doesn't make the shave as it does with a thin DE blade. There's just no way around this fundamental design aspect . I'm sure Shane has done a great job with this I but I don't expect anybody to be wowed by the shave of one AC razor vs another, other than issues like maneuverability and  balance.

I would have to disagree with you there. It makes a tremendous difference to the performance of the razor and isn’t any different than a DE razor. There’s this concept floating around that a DE head is a complicated bit of engineering and an SE is just a blade holder. I’m happy to confirm that they both take the same amount of effort to design and the exact same considerations go into making each type.

It's a nice frame but a nice frame on a SE razor doesn't make the shave as it does with a thin DE blade. There's just no way around this fundamental design aspect . I'm sure Shane has done a great job with this I but I don't expect anybody to be wowed by the shave of one AC razor vs another, other than issues like maneuverability and balance.

So, it’s a first review that seems kind of ho-hum. States that it’s a mid-aggressive feeling razor. Doesn’t really touch much else on shave feel but, at least it seems that it’s not a mild razor. Not much info to go by. I hate YT vids some times, it’s either extremely underwhelming or overly hyped. One is going to have to find out for oneself. Besides, Blackland has a 30 day try and drive. Nothing to lose there. I’m still in.....

https://youtu.be/t5qxrRfIfv4

With a due respect, what in the name of God are you talking about? Have you even used more than one SE AC razor? I’ve used more than six and they all feel completely different. I’ve tried Mongoose II, razorock Hawk aluminum and SS, general aluminum, general brass, ATT SE1, and the blackland Vector. Quite frankly, this is the only SE AC razor that has actually wowed me. I would definitely recommend giving this one a try as you might be pleasantly surprised.


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Having used a metal and 3d printed prototype I can safely say this is one of the most fun razors I’ve used. The shave is certainly mild on the face but very efficient due to the AC format. Can’t wait to purchase one.

I'd be happy to try one in a pass around. I owned three AC razors -- General, Hawk , and El Jefe -- and found I enjoyed the shave more when I trimmed the AC blades and used them in my vintage Mark Cross and DeHaven razors. And I get an equally good shave from my $15 MMOC.

It's a nice frame but a nice frame on a SE razor doesn't make the shave as it does with a thin DE blade. There's just no way around this fundamental design aspect . I'm sure Shane has done a great job with this I but I don't expect anybody to be wowed by the shave of one AC razor vs another, other than issues like maneuverability and balance.

So, it’s a first review that seems kind of ho-hum. States that it’s a mid-aggressive feeling razor. Doesn’t really touch much else on shave feel but, at least it seems that it’s not a mild razor. Not much info to go by. I hate YT vids some times, it’s either extremely underwhelming or overly hyped. One is going to have to find out for oneself. Besides, Blackland has a 30 day try and drive. Nothing to lose there. I’m still in.....

https://youtu.be/t5qxrRfIfv4

With a due respect, what in the name of God are you talking about? Have you even used more than one SE AC razor? I’ve used more than six and they all feel completely different. I’ve tried Mongoose II, razorock Hawk aluminum and SS, general aluminum, general brass, ATT SE1, and the blackland Vector. Quite frankly, this is the only SE AC razor that has actually wowed me. I would definitely recommend giving this one a try as you might be pleasantly surprised.


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Not my experience, nor does it even make logical sense. SE razors hold the blade, they don't manipulate it to increase rigidity as DE razors do. Obviously angle, clamping, gap, and exposure can impact the shave but that's pretty much it.  Unless I'm missing something with what is being done here.

So maybe what I disagree with is that I think DE heads are just blade holders, too. The only difference is the curvature of the blade. But once that’s been taken into account they are the same. The curve creates that rigidity so once it’s curved you can sort of treat a DE like a rigid SE blade. It requires a little bit of extra math, but the differences in design aren’t as dramatic as I think you are suggesting.