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Realizing, of course that Bay Rum originated in a concoction of items readily found aboard ships used to mask body odor of sailors spending weeks on board ships amidst oceans and seas too saline to bathe in regularly....

Russian tank crews encountered a similar issue albeit limited by freezing temperatures resorting to another alcohol, vodka, to mask body odor whilst living in confined quarters over interminable periods 

My point was there wisdom and value added in Derby City Chop Shop Bourbon shoulder scent

Not confident a Bay Rum true to spirit of Bay Rum could be derived justifying any appreciable rise in price over bargain basement pricing currently dominating the market. Moreover, it easy enough to make at home to one’s preference and added to an unscented soap base for literally pennies. This characteristic of low barrier to creation separates it from other scents having a following.

Realizing, of course that Bay Rum originated in a concoction of items readily found aboard ships used to mask body odor of sailors spending weeks on board ship amidst oceans and seas too saline to bathe in regularly....

Sure and of course fougeres and all those other scents originating in French / European perfumery originated to mask appalling personal hygiene, rotting teeth and plague but hey, it smells good now right?

My point isn't to be a smart ass but pretty much all perfumery originated to help us deal with the stench of life at the time.

Stipulated but creating a decent home made fougere for example, is damn near impossible for the average amateur without perfume training let alone a dedicated lab. Whereas, even a bumbling buffoon like me can create a pretty damn good BayRum in a tent, let alone kitchen, let alone lab. 

Was tempted to revive the Green Eggs and Ham post....

The point of this thread is basically an ode to bay rum.  A place for bay rum lovers to share what they love about bay rum and what they think of the offerings in the marketplace for better or worse.  Some of the bay rums out there are very good and some are just ok and you know how I feel about that particular "ubiquitous" bay rum lime blend.  I think if all we were trying to do was produce a historically accurate bay rum that cut the stench of seafaring pirates to a level of tolerability we would be setting the bar pretty low.  There is no official council of bay rum standards out there so an artisan is free to give full expression to their creative inspirations in developing something - maybe a bay rum maybe a bay/bay rum inspired creation. Who knows where it might lead.  Again I'm pleased and excited that Frank Dragonsbeard  has thrown his hat in the ring to see what he can come up with.  I don't know what will come from this other than a reasonable certainty that any pirate who doused himself with Frank's bay rum would be a fine smelling pirate indeed.   Who knows?  Maybe this will spark a renaissance in bay rum with more artisans seriously considering making a top rate bay rum.  That would be cool. 

Realizing, of course that Bay Rum originated in a concoction of items readily found aboard ships used to mask body odor of sailors spending weeks on board ships amidst oceans and seas too saline to bathe in regularly....

Russian tank crews encountered a similar issue albeit limited by freezing temperatures resorting to another alcohol, vodka, to mask body ofor whilst living in confined quarters over interminable periods 

My point was there wisdom and value added in Derby City Chop Shop Bourbon shoulder scent

Not confident a Bay Rum true to spirit of Bay Rum could be derived justifying any appreciable rise in price over bargain basement pricing currently dominating the market. Moreover, it easy enough to make at home to one’s preference and added to an unscented soap base for literally pennies. This characteristic of low barrier to creation separates it from other scents having a following.

It's not that cheap to make. Not the way we do it.

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Realizing, of course that Bay Rum originated in a concoction of items readily found aboard ships used to mask body odor of sailors spending weeks on board ships amidst oceans and seas too saline to bathe in regularly....

Russian tank crews encountered a similar issue albeit limited by freezing temperatures resorting to another alcohol, vodka, to mask body ofor whilst living in confined quarters over interminable periods 

My point was there wisdom and value added in Derby City Chop Shop Bourbon shoulder scent

Not confident a Bay Rum true to spirit of Bay Rum could be derived justifying any appreciable rise in price over bargain basement pricing currently dominating the market. Moreover, it easy enough to make at home to one’s preference and added to an unscented soap base for literally pennies. This characteristic of low barrier to creation separates it from other scents having a following.

It's not that cheap to make. Not the way we do it.

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Dan I have to agree with dominicr on this. If you buy all the natural ingredients needed plus the rum etc it is not cheap at all to make. Plus if I’m going age it in an oak barrel that’s on top of the ingredient costs. 

I mean if you by Bay Rum fragrance oil then yeah that’s inexpensive.

Makes one wonder how much money being lost shipping a 4,0 oz jar to the end user’s door for $20

Not picking on Sir Henry’s. Reading reviews of Soap of the Day thread, the 3 most widely praised Bay Rum soaps by some of the most respected members of DFS all cite:
Sir Henry’s
PAA
Stirling
In no particular order. 

Stirling will sell close to 6oz for under $20,00 to the door. In each case, shipping minimally $4,00 upto $6,00 IIRC. Then there is cost for jars and label likely under $1,00. Leaving $13-15,00 to recover ingredients cost, business expenses&c. Just saying, if the ingredients so expensive, how is profit being made?

I have no issue whatsoever with artisans making a profit (as some on this thread will attest privately if not publicly) nor am complaining regarding pricing, as products should be priced fairly for both producer and consumer. Just having difficulty jibing expensive ingredients with $13-16,00 retail prices for 4,0-6,0 Oz. Even more so if giving free shipping

Makes one wonder how much money being lost shipping a 4,0 oz jar to the end user’s door for $20

We sell ours for $16 shipped CONUS. We don't lose money, but we have to buy ingredients in as large a quantity as possible.

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Makes one wonder how much money being lost shipping a 4,0 oz jar to the end user’s door for $20

We sell ours for $16 shipped CONUS. We don't lose money, but we have to buy ingredients in as large a quantity as possible.

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I was going to say large quantities. Also, sales make a big deal, I'm sure...

Chris from CBL has a bayrum scent he likes, but the oil is excessively expensive. He jumped on it when it was on sale, and bought a large quantity. I don't think he ever released the soap, but did make a smoked BR (which probably allowed him to use less Bay oils?).

Makes one wonder how much money being lost shipping a 4,0 oz jar to the end user’s door for $20

We sell ours for $16 shipped CONUS. We don't lose money, but we have to buy ingredients in as large a quantity as possible.

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I was going to say large quantities. Also, sales make a big deal, I'm sure...

Chris from CBL has a bayrum scent he likes, but the oil is excessively expensive. He jumped on it when it was on sale, and bought a large quantity. I don't think he ever released the soap, but did make a smoked BR (which probably allowed him to use less Bay oils?).

Is that Catie's Bubbles?  I know they make Barnegat Bay which is a bay inspired scent and not a bay rum but I didn't know they'd done an actual Bay Rum.  Is it still available somewhere?