2021/22 Rocnel Sailor Adjustable

This is what the MC 2021 looks like in the RazoRock variable - adjustment knob is 15.29 mm diameter, gold ring is 14.85 mm.  The razor can be straightened but obviously there is over 0.3 mm clearance on either side of the adjustment knob, so some "lean" is possible.   It works though, and is heavy enough to prevent tipping over, but the most elegant solution is Murat's own stand, custom-fit to the wider adjustment knob.  The 15.35 mm M5 Maggard stand (currently out of stock) should be snug enough to fit the adjustment knob without scuffing the gold ring (0.03 mm clearance on either side), so should be ideal absent Murat's made-for stand (and I'm not sure he even sells them separately).  Thanks for the lineup!

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After trying them all for awhile the only suitable stand in my lineup is the Maggard.  The others can touch the gold ring unless I add a spacer in the bottom.  Looks like from your pics the handle is wider on yours than on my 2020 since mine sits down farther and snugly into the second interior socket on the RazoRock.  Since mine fits tight in the Maggard stand I don't see how your MC will since the handle base appears to be bigger than mine.

Advertised ID of the Maggard stand is 15.35 mm.  Digital caliper measured diameter of the MC dial is 15.29 mm, so based on that it should fit.  Will order when they come back in stock and give it a try - one concern was the protruding dissasembly knob, but looks like the stand is shallow enough that it will miss both the gold ring and the knob.  We shall see....

That is going to be a tight fit.  .06 mm/2 is .03 mm on all sides of the handle base if centered.  May fit like a glove.  Curious to see how it works out.

After trying them all for awhile the only suitable stand in my lineup is the Maggard.  The others can touch the gold ring unless I add a spacer in the bottom.  Looks like from your pics the handle is wider on yours than on my 2020 since mine sits down farther and snugly into the second interior socket on the RazoRock.  Since mine fits tight in the Maggard stand I don't see how your MC will since the handle base appears to be bigger than mine.

Advertised ID of the Maggard stand is 15.35 mm.  Digital caliper measured diameter of the MC dial is 15.29 mm, so based on that it should fit.  Will order when they come back in stock and give it a try - one concern was the protruding dissasembly knob, but looks like the stand is shallow enough that it will miss both the gold ring and the knob.  We shall see....

That is going to be a tight fit.  .06 mm/2 is .03 mm on all sides of the handle base.  May fit like a glove.  Curious to see how it works out.

Yep.  Easy to ream a few thousands with an emery mandrel though.  Not easy to find a >15 mm, <16 mm stand.

Is there something wrong with the stand included with the MC Sailor? Or maybe I’m missing something, but why are there all these posts about other stands with this razor? Am I wrong and there is no stand included?

The Master Collection does come with a very good stand.

Looks like the new Sailors (listed as 2022 Sailor on Bullgoose website) don’t include a stand, but they appear to have the same handle dimensions as the 2021 MC, so there may be some utility in knowing what other stands might fit it.

Is there something wrong with the stand included with the MC Sailor? Or maybe I’m missing something, but why are there all these posts about other stands with this razor? Am I wrong and there is no stand included?

Included with the MC, but AFAIK not for other Sailors.  Not, for example, with the Special Edition just released through Bullgoose.  And not for previous models.  And not sold separately on the Rocnel site.  Which becomes problematic if you want a stand, because the handles are certainly non-standard sizes, and they are fairly hefty razors..

Is there something wrong with the stand included with the MC Sailor? Or maybe I’m missing something, but why are there all these posts about other stands with this razor? Am I wrong and there is no stand included?

Included with the MC, but AFAIK not for other Sailors.  Not, for example, with the Special Edition just released through Bullgoose.  And not for previous models.  And not sold separately on the Rocnel site.  Which becomes problematic if you want a stand, because the handles are certainly non-standard sizes, and they are fairly hefty razors..

In my case I need a stand since the 2020 didn't come with one.  The dimensions vary widely as noted above.  I suppose it serves to make one year or special model distinct from all others and is smart marketing.  Proof is here evidenced by the excitement over each new year model features or next limited release.

This is my other stand that I have, in custom titanium:

Reach out to Scott at Marley Machine Works and he will make a custom stand for the Sailor in Stainless or Titanium.


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The Master Collection does come with a very good stand.

Looks like the new Sailors (listed as 2022 Sailor on Bullgoose website) don’t include a stand, but they appear to have the same handle dimensions as the 2021 MC, so there may be some utility in knowing what other stands might fit it.

Yep.  To clarify, the MC comes with a very nice stand, that I wish was available for other models as an accessory....



And as an FYI, Murat indicates availability of raw materials is an issue with production, so unlikely in the immediate future,....

Email from Phil at Bullgoose that he expects to receive the first batch of 2022 Sailors on Friday for those who pre-ordered.  Happy Holidays!