YouTuber bashing on other forums, why?

I'm not for trashing on anyone but if a YouTuber critiques anything they must be willing to have the viewers critique and question the material back, this is just my opinion.

There is a difference between critiquing and trashing.

When I first started doing my videos, I asked for critique. I welcome input. If someone sees me doing something that they think I could improve, I welcome the criticism.

Teling me that I should put myself out of my misery so my daughter would be better off is not the same as critiquing my technique...

And yes, someone sent me that in an email. And if I ever have the pleasure of encountering that individual in real life, there will be some furniture moving going on...

Chris, this is exactly why I no longer read comments on places like You Tube or internet news feeds. I am appalled at what people post. To me there is a huge difference between having the right to say something beyond nasty and actually saying it.

If our grandfathers had even half the choices that we have for shaving gear, than I posit they would have sat around discussing their choices.

Since in reality the choices available were extremely limited by comparison, I posit that their conversations were proportionally limited.

I remember conversations from the 60s. I know what people talked about and rest assured, it was not shaving. No one cared one bit.

The Amazing Mets? Sure. Joe Namath and the first AFL Super Bowl win? Sure. Shaving? Seriously? There is a reason safety razors and soaps went the way of the dodo bird and canned shaving cream dominated the market along with disposable and cartridges. For the most part, it has a HATED task.

It was a boring, mundane, hated task by the vast majority of men, or at least those I was met. NO ONE talked about it and there were plenty of aftershaves, blades, and razors. It's not like "vintage" razors were just found last year. They  have existed for a hundred years and likely viewed as "old junk" in a draw.

I can't possibly imagine any conversation about "aftershaves" other than Christmas time to by a given once per year. It just wasn't done.

There was no glorification, no "hobby", not sacred icon. It was just "work" or a "task" you had to do to be presentable.

There also was no internet, no forums, no reddit, no emails, no online shopping, and no hobbyist interaction.

So while the people you encountered never discussed shaving publicly, that does not accurately imply that nobody enjoyed collection razors and brushes and soaps as a hobby. It accurately implies that nobody within your circle of acquaintances discussed shaving as a hobby. That is the end of the accuracy.

We have "NOS" items available. Clearly somebody bought these items without intending them to be used. They can't all be backroom product that got lost behind a stack of magazines. Some were bought and forgotten, some were bought as "backup", and some were bought as collectibles. People knew, even then, that the wooden bowls for their soap were interesting behind their utilitarianism. People clearly respected and appreciated their razors, as we have so many dating back 100 years or more that are in outstanding condition.

Obviously there was a small variety to the products available, which indicates an intention offering of options beyond the necessary. Gold finish, black paint, red tipped, yadayadayada...lot's of different options, lots of "new releases", lots of of personal collectability, otherwise these items would not be so collectible today...they would all be the same boring soap scent in boring cardboard box, with boring brush, and boring razor.

The fact that this variety was available even to the extent that it was in 1963 indicates a certain level of collectability...a hobby.

There just wasn;t the globalization of it as we see with the internet...

Yes, people always collected old stuff. Antiques or antiquing, an old hobby.

NOS is likely one of two things.

1. Old avon bottles or similar people got as a gift, shoved away, found it, sell on ebay

2. Stock accumulated. Massive move to canned shaving cream and carts, old stuff forget about, Clean out attic, Yeah - old Stuff to sell on eBay. Some people will buy about anything.

There is no magic with NOS. It just old stuff collecting dust that someone thinks they can sell and make a dollar.

Except that NOS is not always just old stuff collecting dust.

Nobody knew, in 1977, how popular Star Wars was going to be, yet many, many, MANY people bought the action figures and kept them in the boxes, as collectibles. Not because there was a huge online community, and not because there was an annual "Comic-Con", and not because there was a well-established community of enthusiasts exchanging ideas and creating groups of collectors. They did it because they, personally, collected the items.

40 years later, those toys are worth a small fortune, incredibly difficult to come by, and the internet is DRIPPING with communities, forums, and blogs dedicated to the hobby. A hobby that existed before people knew it existed.

I refuse to believe that every piece of NOS gear was just collecting dust somewhere, rather than being part of a collection that may or may not have been dusty...

Seriously, razors have been intricate and beautiful for a very long time. You cannot convince me that nobody collected these pieces. Manufacturers weren't making intricately carved designs in 1863 because it was fun. It was because people would pay a premium price to add that premium piece to their collection. Key words being "add" and "collection"...

Otherwise, every razor made would be plain-Jane, nothing fancy, purely utilitarian. Clearly that is not the case. Clearly there was a call and a reason for razor manufacturers to make their offerings more than simply utilitarian tools that held a blade for shaving. And those manufacturers answered that call.

Otherwise, every razor would be blase and bland, and we know this isn;t the case.

I don;t have proof, but I have logic, and logic dictates that manufacturers expended additional cost and time on intricate details for shaving gear because there was a market for it. A market clearly indicates an interest beyond the simple utilitarian form of a tool.

I cant make videos because I cant take criticism very well. This makes guys like BadDad better than I am. I did post one video, but pulled it from this site shortly after posting to avoid any hairsplitting overly critical responses. But the few people like Freddy that actually viewed it, enjoyed it. I think this is because they can watch a video/show that differs from their viewpoint without declaring "jihad" directly after seeing it.

Was that one the presentation for school starring my Schick Krona?

I used to watch a lot of shaving videos when I first started out, but not so much anymore.

Like momma always said, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

This is where I am at.

Absolutely.

I refuse to believe that every piece of NOS gear was just collecting dust somewhere, rather than being part of a collection that may or may not have been dusty...
Yes, people always collected old stuff. Antiques or antiquing, an old hobby.

I said .... people always collected old stuff. Antiques or antiquing, an old hobby.

I said ....  people always collected old stuff. Antiques or antiquing, an old hobby.

Antiques are old. Manufacturers did not build extravagant razors in 1880 so Future Man could sell it for more in 2016...

Not for educational purposes. But think now too. Do you think  our grandfathers hanged around talking different blades and soaps.

Really? Ask your father or grandfather about that.  Some might have hanged at the barber shop smoking and shooting the breeze while waiting for their haircut but do you really think they were into what shaving cream the barber was using?

The point was that I'd understand if a random person said watching a shaving video is weird, but if someone on a shaving forum says it, it's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. What I do find strange is how much time people who hate these videos spend commenting on them or threads about them. I dislike the Kardashians tv show, but you won't find me watching it and posting online about them.

Lastly, I don't see how people's grandfathers are relevant. It doesn't make sense to base my lifestyle off of what someone was thinking 60-70 years ago. My own grandfather isn't even interested in the same stuff he was back then. As a matter of fact, he seems to be interested in wet shaving now. Aren't you? If not, why bother with the forums? You seem long past the educational aspect of this.


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I said ....  people always collected old stuff. Antiques or antiquing, an old hobby.

Antiques are old. Manufacturers did not build extravagant razors in 1880 so Future Man could sell it for more in 2016...

You're wasting your time. He sees shaving way differently then we do.
I'm sure back then there was people like us and people like him.