#771

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Nashville, TN
It sounds to me like increasing the space between the edges holding the blade a tiny amount was a good move.

Regarding R&D costs, they can add up more quickly than you would expect. Having experience with startups, I can easily see it costing $1mm to bring that razor to market. Figuring out how to get a spring to put the perfect amount of pressure on the pivot for so many different types of skin and facial structure would be pretty tough in my mind.

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#772

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Philadelphia, PA
(10-29-2016, 02:06 PM)Will Schupp Wrote: I created an account to chime in. I'm the guy who posted on Shavenook who received 2 replacement razors (in addition to the original, making a total of 3 razors) with a blade smile, and I was told that this is an intentional feature of the razor.

Obviously, I was not happy to find out that, after all of that, I was receiving faulty razors as I had suspected. Honestly, it was still a great razor, but it wasn't very efficient and I thought the smile was the problem (the blade gap in the middle of the smile is very small). I still used the smiling razor, though.

I just received and shaved with the new design. It is much better. There is no smile. There is a "float" to the blade as previously hinted by Andrew. This basically means that, instead of being too tight and making the blade smile, this design is about 0.05mm too loose and the blade can move around. The shave is exceptional, though. It is vastly more efficient.

I would say that I am happy. It took 3 months to get to this point, but to be fair they didn't have any non-faulty razors to give me in the intervening time, and the smiling oneblade was still my favorite razor and is now my second favorite.

I think the conspiracy theories on here might be a bit too far. They made a mistake. It took time to figure it out and fix it. It is an excellent razor.

Thanks,
Will

thanks for stopping by. wow...4 razors to make it right. you're way more patient than me!

(10-30-2016, 01:20 PM)Blagoja Rajevski Wrote:
(10-29-2016, 04:30 PM)grim Wrote:
(10-29-2016, 04:40 AM)Blagoja Rajevski Wrote: Really?  $1 million for r&d on a razor? Some people are gullible....

Link? Point to proof they did not.

Pensa bills?

Where is the proof they actually shelled million bucks for razor development?

Want to get realistic numbers on r&d spending?, go talk to razorock, Rockwell, black land, supply provision etc etc....

It's the perfect excuse for them saying, hey the r&d costed us million bucks there for we have to charge 300 for the razor.

Million dollars for r&d on a razor? They are lying

I also could see the bill being high for R&D. the OneBlade is a vastly different than the other razors you mentioned, with maybe the exception of the Rockwell since it uses different plates to make it an adjustable razor.

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#773
How do you despine and nibble a gem blade? I'm going to give the new oneblade a shot I guess.
#774

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Philadelphia, PA
(10-30-2016, 11:05 PM)Chaddy Wrote: How do you despine and nibble a gem blade? I'm going to give the new oneblade a shot I guess.
To despine it, grab the center of the spine with something like pliers or nippers and rock the spine back and forth until it pops off.

You have to buy a tool to punch notches into the blade so it'll click into place.



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#775

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Las Vegas, NV, USA
(10-31-2016, 01:24 AM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(10-30-2016, 11:05 PM)Chaddy Wrote: How do you despine and nibble a gem blade? I'm going to give the new oneblade a shot I guess.
To despine it, grab the center of the spine with something like pliers or nippers and rock the spine back and forth until it pops off.

You have to buy a tool to punch notches into the blade so it'll click into place.

As Andrew explained, de-spining a Gem blade is simple enough. The spine really does need to be rocked back and forth — trying to just pull it off will most likely not work. The trickiest thing to me is gripping the sharp side of the blade, if your blades come in a dispenser in which they are not wrapped in protective paper. You’ll definitely want something to protect both your fingers and the blade itself.

Here is a good thread about de-spining and clipping. (If I were to venture a guess, most Gem blade users just de-spine the blade and don’t bother clipping it, but I could be wrong.)
https://damnfineshave.com/thread-gem-ptf...0#pid45510
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#776
I was in a pass around with the oneblade but it was a first model and someone sent a lot of de spined gems but they didn't looked cut on or nibble but I don't know what a nibbled gem looks like either. Thanks for any help.
#777

Member
Pittsburgh
(10-30-2016, 01:21 AM)Michael P Wrote: Will, nice to see you here, and thank you for that post. You're the first person I've seen that's given feedback on the razors they're shipping after they realized they had a 'smiling' blade issue.

It's a testament to the overall concept that you were able to get decent shaves with the 'smiling' blade version. I can't quite get my head around how the company could make the claim that this was an intentional feature of the razor for two reasons: 1. It wasn't a feature of the first iteration (the ones I have) and there's nothing in their marketing material that points to this 'feature' or a change in design; and 2. Common sense-it would seem that shaving with a curved blade with a varying blade gap just doesn't make sense. (Although I've heard of some who have Weber DEs with a big 'wave' in their blade that say it doesn't affect the shave at all).

Happy to hear you've finally gotten one that shaves efficiently for you. Does the replacement razor look different than the first one you received?


I also don't understand that they would call it a feature because, like you, I have a first iteration and it certainly doesn't "smile."


I was lucky that I bought my on the secondary market, unused, and was able to get a large supply of blades from across the pond before the shipping restrictions. Once that supply runs out, I'll move this razor on to someone else. Based on cornering the blade market in the US and the treatment of customers when a flaw was identified, I can't abide doing business with them directly. I'm glad that I didn't have to.

justin

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#778

Member
Nashville, TN
Regarding the GEMs, de-spining seems to be easiest by squeezing the spine at the corners.

Using nippers to punch out more isn't required in my opinion. The GEM blades smile a little, but doesn't seem to impact the shave.
#779
(This post was last modified: 11-01-2016, 02:22 AM by grim.)
(11-01-2016, 12:56 AM)JustinHEMI Wrote: Based on cornering the blade market in the US

NOT true. Stop perpetuating untruths

http://www.maggardrazors.com/product/fea...lade-10pk/

555 in stock

http://tryablade.com/blade/feather-fhs-1...edge-blade

Who knows how many in stock

This misinformation is getting old
#780

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Pittsburgh
(11-01-2016, 02:22 AM)grim Wrote:
(11-01-2016, 12:56 AM)JustinHEMI Wrote: Based on cornering the blade market in the US

NOT true.  Stop perpetuating untruths

http://www.maggardrazors.com/product/fea...lade-10pk/

555 in stock

http://tryablade.com/blade/feather-fhs-1...edge-blade

Who knows how many in stock

This misinformation is getting old



Thanks for the correction. It's been sometime since I checked into it. Glad to see it isn't true.

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