Wolf Whiskers Shaving Brushes

Anticipated regret is a psycological tool used by marketing gurus to create a sense of urgency in consumer's and they will in turn aggressively purchase a product they deem to be limited in supply.  I, in no way shape or form, feel Peter is doing this deliberately.  The nature of the waiting list, any waiting list, triggers this impulse which can create a higher demand for any given product.  It would be interesting to see the wait list remain open.  If everyone knew it would not close, no matter what, then the list would initially be quite large and would then subside over time to a manageable level.  

But what fun would that be?  Getting on the wait list and in turn getting an email from Peter to place your order is akin to getting the Golden Ticket for a tour of Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory.

Anticipated regret is a psycological tool used by marketing gurus to create a sense of urgency in consumer's and they will in turn aggressively purchase a product they deem to be limited in supply.  I, in no way shape or form, feel Peter is doing this deliberately.  The nature of the waiting list, any waiting list, triggers this impulse which can create a higher demand for any given product.  It would be interesting to see the wait list remain open.  If everyone knew it would not close, no matter what, then the list would initially be quite large and would then subside over time to a manageable level.  

But what fun would that be?  Getting on the wait list and in turn getting an email from Peter to place your order is akin to getting the Golden Ticket for a tour of Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory.

This is entertaining Asafiev. I am both grateful and sometimes overwhelmed by high demand. Two years ago, if you would have told me that I would have a wait list, I would have laughed. If you told me that I would eventually have to shut that same list down so that I could maintain a manageable list, I would have laughed so hard, I may have had to start wearing an adult incontinence product.

Anticipated regret is a psycological tool used by marketing gurus to create a sense of urgency in consumer's and they will in turn aggressively purchase a product they deem to be limited in supply.  I, in no way shape or form, feel Peter is doing this deliberately.  The nature of the waiting list, any waiting list, triggers this impulse which can create a higher demand for any given product.  It would be interesting to see the wait list remain open.  If everyone knew it would not close, no matter what, then the list would initially be quite large and would then subside over time to a manageable level.  

But what fun would that be?  Getting on the wait list and in turn getting an email from Peter to place your order is akin to getting the Golden Ticket for a tour of Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory.

Very interesting, I don't think the marketing gurus created anticipated regret but rather, observed the phenomenon in certain circumstances then figured out how to manipulate the phenomenon for marketing purposes. I don't have to worry about any waiting lists for Wolf Whiskers products because, living in Canada, I am denied access to anything made with badger bristles in the United States. This is because badger bristle has been deemed "strategic" to US interests and therefore it must never fall into the hands of foreigners. I'm kidding obviously. Peter, I posted on another thread an scheme for exporting brushes made from Chinese origin badger bristle. It involves the brush makers working out of the Chinese Embassy in Washington. Embassies being considered "foreign territory" and the bristle coming directly from China to the Chinese embassy where it would be made into brushes which technically never entered the US - they could then be exported freely to any country on earth. Now, obviously I haven't worked out all the details on this scheme yet.

Seriously, I understand that the export restrictions on animal products is likely aimed at preventing the unseemly trade in the parts of certain animals but in circumstances such as badger bristle brushes where the bristle is imported in the first place it seems to be an unintended consequence that they would be captured by the rules. Has anyone ever looked at applying for an exemption for items such as shaving brushes made form imported bristles?
Mark

I think it's more easily summarized as FOMO these days.

But Peter isn't hype. He makes quality. He works really hard to make everyone happy.

Anticipated regret is a psycological tool used by marketing gurus to create a sense of urgency in consumer's and they will in turn aggressively purchase a product they deem to be limited in supply.  I, in no way shape or form, feel Peter is doing this deliberately.  The nature of the waiting list, any waiting list, triggers this impulse which can create a higher demand for any given product.  It would be interesting to see the wait list remain open.  If everyone knew it would not close, no matter what, then the list would initially be quite large and would then subside over time to a manageable level.  

But what fun would that be?  Getting on the wait list and in turn getting an email from Peter to place your order is akin to getting the Golden Ticket for a tour of Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory.

Very interesting, I don't think the marketing gurus created anticipated regret but rather, observed the phenomenon in certain circumstances then figured out how to manipulate the phenomenon for marketing purposes.  I don't have to worry about any waiting lists for Wolf Whiskers products because, living in Canada, I am denied access to anything made with badger bristles in the United States.  This is because badger bristle has been deemed "strategic" to US interests and therefore it must never fall into the hands of foreigners.  I'm kidding obviously.  Peter, I posted on another thread an scheme for exporting brushes made from Chinese origin badger bristle.  It involves the brush makers working out of the Chinese Embassy in Washington.  Embassies being considered "foreign territory" and the bristle coming directly from China to the Chinese embassy where it would be made into brushes which technically never entered the US - they could then be exported freely to any country on earth.  Now, obviously I haven't worked out all the details on this scheme yet.

Seriously, I understand that the export restrictions on animal products is likely aimed at preventing the unseemly trade in the parts of certain animals but in circumstances such as badger bristle brushes where the bristle is imported in the first place  it seems to be an unintended consequence that they would be captured by the rules.  Has anyone ever looked at applying for an exemption for items such as shaving brushes made form imported bristles?
Mark

You're exactly right Marko that is exactly what has happened with the badger hair being lumped in with full animal pelts and similar products. Plus when you go through the proper channels and pay the man you can get it but just at a nice profit for the government for very little work on their part.

Anticipated regret is a psycological tool used by marketing gurus to create a sense of urgency in consumer's and they will in turn aggressively purchase a product they deem to be limited in supply.  I, in no way shape or form, feel Peter is doing this deliberately.  The nature of the waiting list, any waiting list, triggers this impulse which can create a higher demand for any given product.  It would be interesting to see the wait list remain open.  If everyone knew it would not close, no matter what, then the list would initially be quite large and would then subside over time to a manageable level.  

But what fun would that be?  Getting on the wait list and in turn getting an email from Peter to place your order is akin to getting the Golden Ticket for a tour of Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory.

Very interesting, I don't think the marketing gurus created anticipated regret but rather, observed the phenomenon in certain circumstances then figured out how to manipulate the phenomenon for marketing purposes.  I don't have to worry about any waiting lists for Wolf Whiskers products because, living in Canada, I am denied access to anything made with badger bristles in the United States.  This is because badger bristle has been deemed "strategic" to US interests and therefore it must never fall into the hands of foreigners.  I'm kidding obviously.  Peter, I posted on another thread an scheme for exporting brushes made from Chinese origin badger bristle.  It involves the brush makers working out of the Chinese Embassy in Washington.  Embassies being considered "foreign territory" and the bristle coming directly from China to the Chinese embassy where it would be made into brushes which technically never entered the US - they could then be exported freely to any country on earth.  Now, obviously I haven't worked out all the details on this scheme yet.

Seriously, I understand that the export restrictions on animal products is likely aimed at preventing the unseemly trade in the parts of certain animals but in circumstances such as badger bristle brushes where the bristle is imported in the first place  it seems to be an unintended consequence that they would be captured by the rules.  Has anyone ever looked at applying for an exemption for items such as shaving brushes made form imported bristles?
Mark

You're exactly right Marko that is exactly what has happened with the badger hair being lumped in with full animal pelts and similar products. Plus when you go through the proper channels and pay the man you can get it but just at a nice profit for the government for very little work on their part.

Yeah, they get enough of my money already. There needs to be a general exemption rather than a case by case (i.e., fee by fee) exemption. Or another idea would be a variation on my Chinese embassy scheme, the brush maker could move to a nice Caribbean location and build brushes from there. Its close enough to the US markets but could ship worldwide and the weather is nice most of the time.

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Seriously, I understand that the export restrictions on animal products is likely aimed at preventing the unseemly trade in the parts of certain animals but in circumstances such as badger bristle brushes where the bristle is imported in the first place  it seems to be an unintended consequence that they would be captured by the rules.  Has anyone ever looked at applying for an exemption for items such as shaving brushes made form imported bristles?
Mark

Remember, only commercially qualified people have those fees and permit requirements and restrictions imposed on them by the Fish and Wildlife Service here in the USA. If a person sells badger brushes for a profit, the FWS consider you as commercial entity even if you sell without a business license as a hobbyist. Therefore, the permit, paperwork, a $93USD fee, and inspection is required for EVERY shipment outside of the USA, even a single shaving brush. Since the price of the fee is more than what I can sell the shaving brush for, I refuse to get that permit.

I have heard there is some exemption, but I was told by the FWS that I do not qualify for that. I wish I did. However, if you remember what I said, only commercial entities have these requirements. Non-commercial people within the USA can ship a badger hair shaving brush outside of the USA.

Seriously, I understand that the export restrictions on animal products is likely aimed at preventing the unseemly trade in the parts of certain animals but in circumstances such as badger bristle brushes where the bristle is imported in the first place  it seems to be an unintended consequence that they would be captured by the rules.  Has anyone ever looked at applying for an exemption for items such as shaving brushes made form imported bristles?
Mark

Remember, only commercially qualified people have those fees and permit requirements and restrictions imposed on them by the Fish and Wildlife Service here in the USA.  If a person sells badger brushes for a profit, the FWS consider you as commercial entity even if you sell without a business license as a hobbyist.  Therefore, the permit, paperwork, a $93USD fee, and inspection is required for EVERY shipment outside of the USA, even a single shaving brush.  Since the price of the fee is more than what I can sell the shaving brush for, I refuse to get that permit.

I have heard there is some exemption, but I was told by the FWS that I do not qualify for that.  I wish I did.  However, if you remember what I said, only commercial entities have these requirements.  Non-commercial people within the USA can ship a badger hair shaving brush outside of the USA.

Yes, I get that. I have family in Minnesota and California and they will trans-ship if I ask them although you'd think I was asking them to be a drug mule sometimes which is why I will only ask them to do that in rare circumstances when I absolutely have to have whatever it is. There is also postal box services in some of the border towns and you have stuff sent to those US addresses and then just drive down and pick it up. That works for a lot of people given that about 90% of Canadians live within 200 miles of the border. I've got nothing against Sweetgrass or Great Falls Montana but I'm not making that drive on a regular basis. At the end of the day I consider the restrictions to be a plus as it forces me to exercise restraint in various shaving related acquisitions. I figure if I can't get it then I don't need it.
Thanks,
Mark

Yes, I get that.  I have family in Minnesota and California and they will trans-ship if I ask them although you'd think I was asking them to be a drug mule sometimes which is why I will only ask them to do that in rare circumstances when I absolutely have to have whatever it is.    There is also postal box services in some of the border towns and you have stuff sent to those US addresses and then just drive down and pick it up.  That works for a lot of people given that about 90% of Canadians live within 200 miles of the border.  I've got nothing against Sweetgrass or Great Falls Montana but I'm not making that drive on a regular basis.  At the end of the day I consider the restrictions to be a plus as it forces me to exercise restraint in various shaving related acquisitions.  I figure if I can't get it then I don't need it.
Thanks,
Mark

Restraint is good.

I am on the waitlist and very excited to get a brush!