#47,521

Auld Tobaccona
Cowtown
Quote:It is the best finish in the biz.  — TommyCarioca 
You mean post-shave face feel, as in nourished, conditioned?  I'd welcome that, but what drew me in is someone's listing of Mystic Water as among the slickest soaps he's used.  I think I'd welcome that, too.


Quote:In the past, I had great difficulty creating a top lather with MW. It is finicky in that hydration is the key for me. Slow multiple water adds as I build the proto lather were key to unlocking this stuff. Early heavy water results in this wispy foam that can disappear on your face. Develop a thick okra snot slowly in your knot, then build the water profile slowly.
That's about as helpful and specific as one could hope a response could be.  Thank you.

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#47,522

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(05-24-2024, 03:23 PM)swellcat Wrote:
Quote:It is the best finish in the biz.  — TommyCarioca 
You mean post-shave face feel, as in nourished, conditioned?  I'd welcome that, but what drew me in is someone's listing of Mystic Water as among the slickest soaps he's used.  I think I'd welcome that, too.


Quote:In the past, I had great difficulty creating a top lather with MW. It is finicky in that hydration is the key for me. Slow multiple water adds as I build the proto lather were key to unlocking this stuff. Early heavy water results in this wispy foam that can disappear on your face. Develop a thick okra snot slowly in your knot, then build the water profile slowly.
That's about as helpful and specific as one could hope a response could be.  Thank you.
Stick with it. It took me a few disaster lathers but once you figure it out work you water and knots, it is really great. And you are right - it is slick and the post is very plump!

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#47,523

Just Here for the Shaves
Williamsburg, KY
(05-24-2024, 03:03 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 02:40 PM)swellcat Wrote:
(11-13-2019, 04:59 AM)Bouki Wrote: Poggio dei Pini t. (Mystic Water) pine & flowers

Stearic acid is the backbone of most soaps. Look at your label and you’ll usually find it listed among the first three ingredients. Mystic Water, however, leads off with tallow. Stearic acid is number 13 on the list. So what’s holding this soap together? It looks like tallow, Castor oil, glycerin, and Shea butter do a lot of the heavy lifting followed by avocado oil and palm oil. Building a lather takes some careful loading and a lot of brush & water work, but the results are worth it. If you prefer a slick, juicy lather with the finest grain possible and a finish that’s as plump as pudding, sink your brush into a tub of Mystic Water. Today’s scent, Poggio dei Pini, is a very floral interpretation of pine. I’ve had it for years and it still smells quite flowery. Noble Otter’s Trail does a better coniferous floral, but it’s hard to beat a MW finish.

   
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The brush-and-water work must've eluded me: using perhaps three grams of a sample, the airiest, frothiest foam ever encountered ensued.  Operator error, likely.  If the answer is, "Use more soap," there will be only two more chances to make it right.
In the past, I had great difficulty creating a top lather with MW. It is finicky in that hydration is the key for me. Slow multiple water adds as I build the proto lather were key to unlocking this stuff. Early heavy water results in this wispy foam that can disappear on your face. Develop a thick okra snot slowly in your knot, then build the water profile slowly. It is the best finish in the biz.

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TC nailed it ! I would add 1 more thing is not to use very hot water. Warm or cool is fine. Very hot kills it too and pretty sure she mentions that or her site somewhere.

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#47,525

Posting Freak
(05-24-2024, 03:43 PM)Dave in KY Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 03:03 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 02:40 PM)swellcat Wrote: The brush-and-water work must've eluded me: using perhaps three grams of a sample, the airiest, frothiest foam ever encountered ensued.  Operator error, likely.  If the answer is, "Use more soap," there will be only two more chances to make it right.
In the past, I had great difficulty creating a top lather with MW. It is finicky in that hydration is the key for me. Slow multiple water adds as I build the proto lather were key to unlocking this stuff. Early heavy water results in this wispy foam that can disappear on your face. Develop a thick okra snot slowly in your knot, then build the water profile slowly. It is the best finish in the biz.

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TC nailed it ! I would add 1 more thing is not to use very hot water. Warm or cool is fine. Very hot kills it too and pretty sure she mentions that or her site somewhere.
Bluegrass, I did not know that'n. Added to the lather making recipe.! Truly love this group of dudes - learn daily.

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#47,527

Just Here for the Shaves
Williamsburg, KY
(05-24-2024, 04:46 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 03:43 PM)Dave in KY Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 03:03 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote: In the past, I had great difficulty creating a top lather with MW. It is finicky in that hydration is the key for me. Slow multiple water adds as I build the proto lather were key to unlocking this stuff. Early heavy water results in this wispy foam that can disappear on your face. Develop a thick okra snot slowly in your knot, then build the water profile slowly. It is the best finish in the biz.

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TC nailed it ! I would add 1 more thing is not to use very hot water. Warm or cool is fine. Very hot kills it too and pretty sure she mentions that or her site somewhere.
Bluegrass, I did not know that'n. Added to the lather making recipe.!  Truly love this group of dudes - learn daily.

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Here's a quote from her FAQ on her site Water temp comment in Bold:

Lathering Instructions

Here are some videos and helpful suggestions: the videos were made by my customers and I want to thank them for sharing their expertise so generously here.
I chose to make my shaving soap with no coconut oil or coconut fatty acids because some of my customers are allergic to coconut oil. Saponified coconut oil makes quick lather, but my soap lathers too - it just takes a little bit more patience. The reward is great skin care and post-shave feel. In 2016, after extensive testing with customers all over the country, I began adding a little citric acid to my shaving soap as a chelating agent, which makes it easier to lather soap in hard water. Also, although my soap performs well in cool, tepid, and warm water, hot scuttles and overly hot water will cause the lather to break down.

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This post by Dave in KY mentions views and opinions expressed and makes it known that they are "those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of DFS or any other member, agency, organization, employer or company."  Big Grin
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