#36,871

Posting Freak
Peachtree City, GA
(10-10-2022, 09:08 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote: MWF: a week with the FAT

A list of the complaints garnered from the blogs/research:

Dissipating lather, hard to load, doesn't lather well if one has hard water, lanolin is an issue if your sensitive to it, must be bloomed, light-airy, plain fragrance, nothing special given its issues, requires heavy heavy brush work to get a good load, must bloom, hydrate/soak, or grate puck to get a good load, must use regularly per keeping it moist, requires slow hydration, requires lots of water, need to load with a stiff boar brush, foamy bubble ridden lather.

A list of positive attributes:

Great soapy scent, has lanolin resulting in a nice plump finish, easy to lather regardless of lathering style per wet/dry brush, bowl or face, slickness and residual slickness.

My Experience:

All of the above, Both good& bad - - but allow me to expand & elaborate. Isolated usage with a hard water resulted in a FOAMY, airy, bubble plagued dissipating lather. But I recognized the potential - SLICK. It was incredibly hard to get an ample brush load.

Tomorrow will be shave 9 in a row. A solution has been derived, using all of the well known suggestions-but I have to utilize them all to get a low profile, bubble free, top notch emulsion.

The approach:
1. Score one side of the puck in a lattice pattern. About 1/8 of an inch deep
2. Seat the puck in its container or a dish, immersing the scored side in Distilled water nightly for a week, or before usage. So a heavy bloom period aided by the puck scoring and Distilled water.
3. Heavy load with a moist [DW] not wet brush. I used boar, synthetic 3 ring& 2 sand to same affect. The loading was from the puck in my hand.
4. The first portion of the load is ALWAYS foamy. Discard it. Squeeze the brush and get it down the drain.
5. Hit the puck again, heavy load.
6. Take the puck to the face, like a shave stick. Nice thick soap layer of proto on the face now.
7. Squeeze the brush and rub the proto lather between the old mitts expelling the bubbles. This was the only way I could get a bubble free low profile proto lather.
8. Hand lather shortly to get the proto lather back in the brush. Use the old soap hands to rub the face, more MWF Pre-shave action.
9. Face lather with a few SPARTAN DW adds. About a 5ml per addition to loosen the proto lather and get a good build up.

Comment: seems horrendously involved but I got so fast at this, I had a 3 pass shave in 15 minutes this morning. The Fat loading issue is solved for me. I find the slickness and residual slickness to be the best in my den. Post only second to Mystic Water. I like the plump fatty stuff. My skin needs it. The MWF puck is resistant to quick loads. The guys that that get a quick load, easy usable lather - would like to see pics of it. Pretty sure it has to have significant air in it. That is fine, because the fat is so slick, one will get a nice shave with it. Extra effort gets a world class straight razor kind of lather. The Fat is a foamer, so the extra steps obviate that airy crap.

Lather pix tomorrow. I think MWF will be my weekly Fat Tuesday shave.

Solidly in my rotation with Sa°Tabac °urday.

Thanks to Danny & Face Scraper for suggestions.


C U ALL TOMORROW

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Might be worthy of a sticky stand alone post

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#36,872

Clay Face
Honolulu, Hawaii
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Agrumes (Martin de Candre) south of Italy
Shave 5 ・ 193 g left

Have I found my nirvana? If ever a shave left me with a light and breezy feeling of transcendence, this was it. What went right? Everything! Gorgeous silken smooth lather, a mild and efficient razor, a gentle blade, a tart and nourishing aftershave, and a simple but exquisite cologne, all at the same time.

TommyCarioca: great work on sticking with the Fat for a full week. You're inspiring. Looks like you've worked out most of the kinks, but man, it takes a lot of doing to get that soap right. But then I felt the same way about Martin de Candre until recently. Not that this soap is hard to lather. Far from it. But I wasn't really getting stellar shaves until I found the right combination of razor, blade, and technique. But once all the pieces came together it was like the clouds parted, the earth shook under my feet, I heard the music of the spheres, and I had the shave that passes understanding.
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#36,873

Posting Freak
(10-10-2022, 09:16 PM)Dave in KY Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 09:08 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote: MWF: a week with the FAT

A list of the complaints garnered from  the blogs/research:

Dissipating lather, hard to load, doesn't lather well if one has hard water, lanolin is an issue if your sensitive to it, must be bloomed, light-airy, plain fragrance, nothing special given its issues, requires heavy heavy brush work to get a good load, must bloom, hydrate/soak, or grate puck to get a good load, must use regularly per keeping it moist, requires slow hydration, requires lots of water, need to load with a stiff boar brush, foamy bubble ridden lather.

A list of positive attributes:

Great soapy scent, has lanolin resulting in a nice plump finish,  easy to lather regardless of lathering style per wet/dry brush, bowl or face, slickness and residual slickness.

My Experience:

All of the above, Both  good& bad - - but allow me to expand & elaborate. Isolated usage with a hard water resulted in a FOAMY, airy, bubble plagued dissipating lather. But I recognized the potential - SLICK. It was incredibly hard to get an ample brush load.

Tomorrow will be shave 9 in a row. A solution has been derived,  using all of the well known suggestions-but I have to utilize them all to get a low profile, bubble free, top notch emulsion.

The approach:
1. Score one side of the puck in a lattice pattern. About 1/8 of an inch deep
2. Seat the puck in its container or a dish, immersing the scored side in Distilled water  nightly for a week, or before usage. So a heavy bloom period aided by the puck scoring and Distilled water.
3. Heavy load with a moist [DW] not wet brush. I used boar, synthetic 3 ring& 2 sand to same affect. The loading was from the puck in my hand.
4. The first portion of the load is ALWAYS foamy. Discard it. Squeeze the brush and get it down the drain.
5. Hit the puck again, heavy load.
6. Take the puck to the face, like a shave stick. Nice thick soap layer of proto on the face now.
7. Squeeze the brush and rub the proto lather between the old mitts expelling the bubbles. This was the only way I could get a bubble free low profile proto lather.
8. Hand lather shortly to get the proto lather back in the brush. Use the old soap hands to rub the face, more MWF Pre-shave action.
9. Face lather with a few SPARTAN DW  adds. About a 5ml per addition to loosen the proto lather and get a good build up.

Comment:  seems horrendously involved but I got so fast at this, I had a 3 pass shave in 15 minutes this morning. The Fat loading issue is solved for me. I find the slickness and residual slickness to be the best in my den. Post only second to Mystic Water. I like the plump fatty stuff. My skin needs it. The MWF puck is resistant to quick loads. The guys that that get a quick load, easy usable lather - would like to see pics of it. Pretty sure it has to have significant air in it. That is fine, because the fat is so slick, one will get a nice shave with it. Extra effort gets a world class straight razor kind of lather. The Fat is a foamer, so the extra steps obviate that airy crap.

Lather pix tomorrow. I think MWF will be my weekly Fat Tuesday shave.

Solidly in my rotation with Sa°Tabac °urday.


C U ALL TOMORROW

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Now that's dedication Tommy. Congrats ?
Lol. Seems complicated but the Fast is so slick, twas worth it. Could have summarized better, and not scared everyone. DW, bloom/score , use as stick, slow hydration!

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#36,874

Member
Idaho Falls, Idaho
(This post was last modified: 10-10-2022, 11:11 PM by Lipripper660.)
(10-10-2022, 09:08 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote: MWF: a week with the FAT

A list of the complaints garnered from  the blogs/research:

Dissipating lather, hard to load, doesn't lather well if one has hard water, lanolin is an issue if your sensitive to it, must be bloomed, light-airy, plain fragrance, nothing special given its issues, requires heavy heavy brush work to get a good load, must bloom, hydrate/soak, or grate puck to get a good load, must use regularly per keeping it moist, requires slow hydration, requires lots of water, need to load with a stiff boar brush, foamy bubble ridden lather.

A list of positive attributes:

Great soapy scent, has lanolin resulting in a nice plump finish,  easy to lather regardless of lathering style per wet/dry brush, bowl or face, slickness and residual slickness.

My Experience:

All of the above, Both  good& bad - - but allow me to expand & elaborate. Isolated usage with a hard water resulted in a FOAMY, airy, bubble plagued dissipating lather. But I recognized the potential - SLICK. It was incredibly hard to get an ample brush load.

Tomorrow will be shave 9 in a row. A solution has been derived,  using all of the well known suggestions-but I have to utilize them all to get a low profile, bubble free, top notch emulsion.

The approach:
1. Score one side of the puck in a lattice pattern. About 1/8 of an inch deep
2. Seat the puck in its container or a dish, immersing the scored side in Distilled water  nightly for a week, or before usage. So a heavy bloom period aided by the puck scoring and Distilled water.
3. Heavy load with a moist [DW] not wet brush. I used boar, synthetic 3 ring& 2 sand to same affect. The loading was from the puck in my hand.
4. The first portion of the load is ALWAYS foamy. Discard it. Squeeze the brush and get it down the drain.
5. Hit the puck again, heavy load.
6. Take the puck to the face, like a shave stick. Nice thick soap layer of proto on the face now.
7. Squeeze the brush and rub the proto lather between the old mitts expelling the bubbles. This was the only way I could get a bubble free low profile proto lather.
8. Hand lather shortly to get the proto lather back in the brush. Use the old soap hands to rub the face, more MWF Pre-shave action.
9. Face lather with a few SPARTAN DW  adds. About a 5ml per addition to loosen the proto lather and get a good build up.

Comment:  seems horrendously involved but I got so fast at this, I had a 3 pass shave in 15 minutes this morning. The Fat loading issue is solved for me. I find the slickness and residual slickness to be the best in my den. Post only second to Mystic Water. I like the plump fatty stuff. My skin needs it. The MWF puck is resistant to quick loads. The guys that that get a quick load, easy usable lather - would like to see pics of it. Pretty sure it has to have significant air in it. That is fine, because the fat is so slick, one will get a nice shave with it. Extra effort gets a world class straight razor kind of lather. The Fat is a foamer, so the extra steps obviate that airy crap.

Lather pix tomorrow. I think MWF will be my weekly Fat Tuesday shave.

Solidly in my rotation with Sa°Tabac °urday.

Thanks to Danny & Face Scraper for suggestions.


C U ALL TOMORROW

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That’s a lot of work!  Thanks for the report.  Luckily my hard water seems to get along with Mitchell’s just fine.  I don’t have to soak the puck at all but I do load for a minute or longer with a wet brush. My lather is more peaky and higher lofted like an Italian soft soap but it sure shaves great and to me the smell is perfect. Lucky I suppose. (Or maybe too stupid to know what good lather is.). Sure resides in a cool dish though. Thanks for your work pal.

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#36,875
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2022, 04:22 AM by FaceScraper.)
(10-10-2022, 09:08 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote: MWF: a week with the FAT

A list of the complaints garnered from  the blogs/research:

Dissipating lather, hard to load, doesn't lather well if one has hard water, lanolin is an issue if your sensitive to it, must be bloomed, light-airy, plain fragrance, nothing special given its issues, requires heavy heavy brush work to get a good load, must bloom, hydrate/soak, or grate puck to get a good load, must use regularly per keeping it moist, requires slow hydration, requires lots of water, need to load with a stiff boar brush, foamy bubble ridden lather.

A list of positive attributes:

Great soapy scent, has lanolin resulting in a nice plump finish,  easy to lather regardless of lathering style per wet/dry brush, bowl or face, slickness and residual slickness.

My Experience:

All of the above, Both  good& bad - - but allow me to expand & elaborate. Isolated usage with a hard water resulted in a FOAMY, airy, bubble plagued dissipating lather. But I recognized the potential - SLICK. It was incredibly hard to get an ample brush load.

Tomorrow will be shave 9 in a row. A solution has been derived,  using all of the well known suggestions-but I have to utilize them all to get a low profile, bubble free, top notch emulsion.

The approach:
1. Score one side of the puck in a lattice pattern. About 1/8 of an inch deep
2. Seat the puck in its container or a dish, immersing the scored side in Distilled water  nightly for a week, or before usage. So a heavy bloom period aided by the puck scoring and Distilled water.
3. Heavy load with a moist [DW] not wet brush. I used boar, synthetic 3 ring& 2 sand to same affect. The loading was from the puck in my hand.
4. The first portion of the load is ALWAYS foamy. Discard it. Squeeze the brush and get it down the drain.
5. Hit the puck again, heavy load.
6. Take the puck to the face, like a shave stick. Nice thick soap layer of proto on the face now.
7. Squeeze the brush and rub the proto lather between the old mitts expelling the bubbles. This was the only way I could get a bubble free low profile proto lather.
8. Hand lather shortly to get the proto lather back in the brush. Use the old soap hands to rub the face, more MWF Pre-shave action.
9. Face lather with a few SPARTAN DW  adds. About a 5ml per addition to loosen the proto lather and get a good build up.

Comment:  seems horrendously involved but I got so fast at this, I had a 3 pass shave in 15 minutes this morning. The Fat loading issue is solved for me. I find the slickness and residual slickness to be the best in my den. Post only second to Mystic Water. I like the plump fatty stuff. My skin needs it. The MWF puck is resistant to quick loads. The guys that that get a quick load, easy usable lather - would like to see pics of it. Pretty sure it has to have significant air in it. That is fine, because the fat is so slick, one will get a nice shave with it. Extra effort gets a world class straight razor kind of lather. The Fat is a foamer, so the extra steps obviate that airy crap.

Lather pix tomorrow. I think MWF will be my weekly Fat Tuesday shave.

Solidly in my rotation with Sa°Tabac °urday.

Thanks to Danny & Face Scraper for suggestions.


C U ALL TOMORROW

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Way to go Tommy! You stuck it out. That’s a lot of work you put into it, however if it’s giving you results that are enjoyable, do your thing. Maybe I’m lucky by not having hard water, and don’t have trouble with MWF. You are correct about the foamy stuff when loading initially. I generally get nice, creamy lather with The Fat…nothing like the top tier artisan soaps though. Slickness and post shave are always wonderful. 

Great report on your process and thoughts!

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#36,876

Member
gone to Carolina in my mind
(10-10-2022, 09:16 PM)Dave in KY Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 09:08 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote: MWF: a week with the FAT

A list of the complaints garnered from  the blogs/research:

Dissipating lather, hard to load, doesn't lather well if one has hard water, lanolin is an issue if your sensitive to it, must be bloomed, light-airy, plain fragrance, nothing special given its issues, requires heavy heavy brush work to get a good load, must bloom, hydrate/soak, or grate puck to get a good load, must use regularly per keeping it moist, requires slow hydration, requires lots of water, need to load with a stiff boar brush, foamy bubble ridden lather.

A list of positive attributes:

Great soapy scent, has lanolin resulting in a nice plump finish,  easy to lather regardless of lathering style per wet/dry brush, bowl or face, slickness and residual slickness.

My Experience:

All of the above, Both  good& bad - - but allow me to expand & elaborate. Isolated usage with a hard water resulted in a FOAMY, airy, bubble plagued dissipating lather. But I recognized the potential - SLICK. It was incredibly hard to get an ample brush load.

Tomorrow will be shave 9 in a row. A solution has been derived,  using all of the well known suggestions-but I have to utilize them all to get a low profile, bubble free, top notch emulsion.

The approach:
1. Score one side of the puck in a lattice pattern. About 1/8 of an inch deep
2. Seat the puck in its container or a dish, immersing the scored side in Distilled water  nightly for a week, or before usage. So a heavy bloom period aided by the puck scoring and Distilled water.
3. Heavy load with a moist [DW] not wet brush. I used boar, synthetic 3 ring& 2 sand to same affect. The loading was from the puck in my hand.
4. The first portion of the load is ALWAYS foamy. Discard it. Squeeze the brush and get it down the drain.
5. Hit the puck again, heavy load.
6. Take the puck to the face, like a shave stick. Nice thick soap layer of proto on the face now.
7. Squeeze the brush and rub the proto lather between the old mitts expelling the bubbles. This was the only way I could get a bubble free low profile proto lather.
8. Hand lather shortly to get the proto lather back in the brush. Use the old soap hands to rub the face, more MWF Pre-shave action.
9. Face lather with a few SPARTAN DW  adds. About a 5ml per addition to loosen the proto lather and get a good build up.

Comment:  seems horrendously involved but I got so fast at this, I had a 3 pass shave in 15 minutes this morning. The Fat loading issue is solved for me. I find the slickness and residual slickness to be the best in my den. Post only second to Mystic Water. I like the plump fatty stuff. My skin needs it. The MWF puck is resistant to quick loads. The guys that that get a quick load, easy usable lather - would like to see pics of it. Pretty sure it has to have significant air in it. That is fine, because the fat is so slick, one will get a nice shave with it. Extra effort gets a world class straight razor kind of lather. The Fat is a foamer, so the extra steps obviate that airy crap.

Lather pix tomorrow. I think MWF will be my weekly Fat Tuesday shave.

Solidly in my rotation with Sa°Tabac °urday.


C U ALL TOMORROW

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Now that's dedication Tommy. Congrats ?


(10-10-2022, 09:44 PM)Southsider Wrote: I love your passion but... way too complicated for a simple man like me.  Hard pass.


(10-10-2022, 10:25 PM)DanLaw Wrote: Might be worthy of a sticky stand alone post

All of the above IMO.  Many thanks to Tommy (TommyCarioca) for that diligent and thorough investigation.

The FAT is so good when it is good, but for me, the FAT is like the flame, and I am the moth that periodically returns to it.  I enjoy the light for a while, but sooner or later I get burned and fly away, scratching my little moth head and wondering WT_ went wrong.  The upshot of all this is that for me - and despite my genuine respect for their supporters - the FAT lives with Mystic Water in my Life is Too Short file.  I pull out the FAT on rare occasions, in part due to its merit, in part due to the respect I just mentioned, and in part due to the incredible longevity of its unadulterated formula.  

Perhaps some day I will be as skilled a shaver as those who use these soaps more regularly, but for now, I do what I think real men usually do, and stick with soaps that work better and more easily for me.  And in that vein, Tommy's favorites list is very close to my own.

Thanks again Tommy, and happy shaves everyone.

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#36,877

Just Here for the Shaves
Williamsburg, KY
(10-10-2022, 10:52 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 09:16 PM)Dave in KY Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 09:08 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote: MWF: a week with the FAT

A list of the complaints garnered from  the blogs/research:

Dissipating lather, hard to load, doesn't lather well if one has hard water, lanolin is an issue if your sensitive to it, must be bloomed, light-airy, plain fragrance, nothing special given its issues, requires heavy heavy brush work to get a good load, must bloom, hydrate/soak, or grate puck to get a good load, must use regularly per keeping it moist, requires slow hydration, requires lots of water, need to load with a stiff boar brush, foamy bubble ridden lather.

A list of positive attributes:

Great soapy scent, has lanolin resulting in a nice plump finish,  easy to lather regardless of lathering style per wet/dry brush, bowl or face, slickness and residual slickness.

My Experience:

All of the above, Both  good& bad - - but allow me to expand & elaborate. Isolated usage with a hard water resulted in a FOAMY, airy, bubble plagued dissipating lather. But I recognized the potential - SLICK. It was incredibly hard to get an ample brush load.

Tomorrow will be shave 9 in a row. A solution has been derived,  using all of the well known suggestions-but I have to utilize them all to get a low profile, bubble free, top notch emulsion.

The approach:
1. Score one side of the puck in a lattice pattern. About 1/8 of an inch deep
2. Seat the puck in its container or a dish, immersing the scored side in Distilled water  nightly for a week, or before usage. So a heavy bloom period aided by the puck scoring and Distilled water.
3. Heavy load with a moist [DW] not wet brush. I used boar, synthetic 3 ring& 2 sand to same affect. The loading was from the puck in my hand.
4. The first portion of the load is ALWAYS foamy. Discard it. Squeeze the brush and get it down the drain.
5. Hit the puck again, heavy load.
6. Take the puck to the face, like a shave stick. Nice thick soap layer of proto on the face now.
7. Squeeze the brush and rub the proto lather between the old mitts expelling the bubbles. This was the only way I could get a bubble free low profile proto lather.
8. Hand lather shortly to get the proto lather back in the brush. Use the old soap hands to rub the face, more MWF Pre-shave action.
9. Face lather with a few SPARTAN DW  adds. About a 5ml per addition to loosen the proto lather and get a good build up.

Comment:  seems horrendously involved but I got so fast at this, I had a 3 pass shave in 15 minutes this morning. The Fat loading issue is solved for me. I find the slickness and residual slickness to be the best in my den. Post only second to Mystic Water. I like the plump fatty stuff. My skin needs it. The MWF puck is resistant to quick loads. The guys that that get a quick load, easy usable lather - would like to see pics of it. Pretty sure it has to have significant air in it. That is fine, because the fat is so slick, one will get a nice shave with it. Extra effort gets a world class straight razor kind of lather. The Fat is a foamer, so the extra steps obviate that airy crap.

Lather pix tomorrow. I think MWF will be my weekly Fat Tuesday shave.

Solidly in my rotation with Sa°Tabac °urday.


C U ALL TOMORROW

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Now that's dedication Tommy. Congrats ?
Lol. Seems complicated but the Fast is so slick, twas worth it.  Could have summarized better, and not scared everyone. DW, bloom/score , use as stick, slow hydration!

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That (?) Question Mark was not intended. Sometimes I use an emoji from my phone and it is changed by the forum software to a character. Senior moment for me, sorry Winking

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#36,878

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(10-10-2022, 11:37 PM)Dave in KY Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 10:52 PM)TommyCarioca Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 09:16 PM)Dave in KY Wrote: Now that's dedication Tommy. Congrats ?
Lol. Seems complicated but the Fast is so slick, twas worth it.  Could have summarized better, and not scared everyone. DW, bloom/score , use as stick, slow hydration!

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That (?) Question Mark was not intended. Sometimes I use an emoji from my phone and it is changed by the forum software to a character. Senior moment for me, sorry Winking
Lol. It was the perfect query Bluegrass. What was I doing for a week? Now on to the other life is too short curse. Mystic Water. High Speed is right.

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Just Here for the Shaves
Williamsburg, KY
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Brush: Stuart/Timberwolf
Soap: Fuzzy Face Soaps Monkey Farts
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