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Haslinger - Salbei (tallow)

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(03-10-2022, 04:13 AM)Nero Wrote: HighSpeed, thanks for posting.
In regards to your comment at the end, I think they are just saying "replace" as in putting the lid back on, not "replace" as in get a new lid.
I believe almost everyone does that with all soaps, so I don't see that as an issue for most folks.

Agreed Nero.   Replacing the lid, as in putting it back on, is what I assumed they meant  It is a common practice, and it is not a problem for me.  The problem for me is that IME replacing the cap has a short lived and limited influence on the scent.  When I bought the soap, the cap was presumably on for several days before I opened it, and the strongly pepper forward scent caught me off-guard.  After shaving and excavating the samples out of the puck, I had the cap on for a week.  When I took the cap off after the week, the scent was still quite pepper forward - granted not as strong as before - and the surface was still more pepper than the excavation.  


So while replacing the cap is easy to do and typically done, it neither puts the rose in front nor even just balance the notes, and it does not homogenize how different parts of the puck smell.  Those are the things it leaves to be desired for me, and why my reaction is mixed.  OTOH, despite being more pepper forward than I expected and prefer, the scent is still livable IMO, and the performance (ease of lathering, protection, post-shave feel) left nothing to be desired. 

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(03-10-2022, 06:47 AM)HighSpeed Wrote:
(03-10-2022, 04:13 AM)Nero Wrote: HighSpeed, thanks for posting.
In regards to your comment at the end, I think they are just saying "replace" as in putting the lid back on, not "replace" as in get a new lid.
I believe almost everyone does that with all soaps, so I don't see that as an issue for most folks.

Agreed Nero.   Replacing the lid, as in putting it back on, is what I assumed they meant  It is a common practice, and it is not a problem for me.  The problem for me is that IME replacing the cap has a short lived and limited influence on the scent.  When I bought the soap, the cap was presumably on for several days before I opened it, and the strongly pepper forward scent caught me off-guard.  After shaving and excavating the samples out of the puck, I had the cap on for a week.  When I took the cap off after the week, the scent was still quite pepper forward - granted not as strong as before - and the surface was still more pepper than the excavation.  


So while replacing the cap is easy to do and typically done, it neither puts the rose in front nor even just balance the notes, and it does not homogenize how different parts of the puck smell.  Those are the things it leaves to be desired for me, and why my reaction is mixed.  OTOH, despite being more pepper forward than I expected and prefer, the scent is still livable IMO, and the performance (ease of lathering, protection, post-shave feel) left nothing to be desired. 
HS. - good onya for unraveling the pepper/rose conundrum!
And good timing as I lathered up with this very puck this morning. The pepper has mellowed a little on second use.

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Declaration Grooming Rose Santal
Milksteak Base
"The rose accord and sandalwood accord were made from scratch by Chatillon Lux, designed to contrast the creamy sandalwood with a rose scent that is simultaneously sharp and sweet."
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(03-10-2022, 06:47 AM)HighSpeed Wrote:
(03-10-2022, 04:13 AM)Nero Wrote: HighSpeed, thanks for posting.
In regards to your comment at the end, I think they are just saying "replace" as in putting the lid back on, not "replace" as in get a new lid.
I believe almost everyone does that with all soaps, so I don't see that as an issue for most folks.

Agreed Nero.   Replacing the lid, as in putting it back on, is what I assumed they meant  It is a common practice, and it is not a problem for me.  The problem for me is that IME replacing the cap has a short lived and limited influence on the scent.  When I bought the soap, the cap was presumably on for several days before I opened it, and the strongly pepper forward scent caught me off-guard.  After shaving and excavating the samples out of the puck, I had the cap on for a week.  When I took the cap off after the week, the scent was still quite pepper forward - granted not as strong as before - and the surface was still more pepper than the excavation.  


So while replacing the cap is easy to do and typically done, it neither puts the rose in front nor even just balance the notes, and it does not homogenize how different parts of the puck smell.  Those are the things it leaves to be desired for me, and why my reaction is mixed.  OTOH, despite being more pepper forward than I expected and prefer, the scent is still livable IMO, and the performance (ease of lathering, protection, post-shave feel) left nothing to be desired. 
Ayyye! Yes makes more sense now, thank you! I'm not sure there's anything anyone could do, as that's the nature of these particular oils.
To me it just sounds like the temporary replacement black pepper oil threw them a curveball. Mine is easily 95+% rose at the top layer.

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(03-10-2022, 03:28 PM)Nero Wrote:
(03-10-2022, 06:47 AM)HighSpeed Wrote:
(03-10-2022, 04:13 AM)Nero Wrote: HighSpeed, thanks for posting.
In regards to your comment at the end, I think they are just saying "replace" as in putting the lid back on, not "replace" as in get a new lid.
I believe almost everyone does that with all soaps, so I don't see that as an issue for most folks.

Agreed Nero.   Replacing the lid, as in putting it back on, is what I assumed they meant  It is a common practice, and it is not a problem for me.  The problem for me is that IME replacing the cap has a short lived and limited influence on the scent.  When I bought the soap, the cap was presumably on for several days before I opened it, and the strongly pepper forward scent caught me off-guard.  After shaving and excavating the samples out of the puck, I had the cap on for a week.  When I took the cap off after the week, the scent was still quite pepper forward - granted not as strong as before - and the surface was still more pepper than the excavation.  


So while replacing the cap is easy to do and typically done, it neither puts the rose in front nor even just balance the notes, and it does not homogenize how different parts of the puck smell.  Those are the things it leaves to be desired for me, and why my reaction is mixed.  OTOH, despite being more pepper forward than I expected and prefer, the scent is still livable IMO, and the performance (ease of lathering, protection, post-shave feel) left nothing to be desired. 
Ayyye! Yes makes more sense now, thank you! I'm not sure there's anything anyone could do, as that's the nature of these particular oils.
To me it just sounds like the temporary replacement black pepper oil threw them a curveball. Mine is easily 95+% rose at the top layer.
I JEALOUS. As it stands this is a pepper soap with rose. Anyone want to try it. Ready to bounce it out of the den! PM me

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(This post was last modified: 03-10-2022, 09:02 PM by Lipripper660.)
Stirling Port Au Prince seems to be discontinued and hey, I get it.  Lots of folks like Vetiver WITH things but fewer like it when it stands alone.  I’m of the latter persuasion.  This Vetiver is not a stand alone but the only dance partner the root has is a bit of lemongrass to lighten the top note.  It’s got just a touch of smoke but that middle and base is just Vetiver.  As I was using it i was struck with its quasi- industrial scent and was transported back to a family friend Daryl Heider who made his living finishing hardwood floors.  You know, basketball gyms, churches, etc.  I can’t recall all of Daryl’s kids names but I do know his girls were gorgeous cheerleaders and his son Lee was my idol.  I picked em good too because Lee became a fighter jet pilot for the air force and then a commercial pilot for PanAm.  Anyway, the Heider house always had a background scent of whatever varnishes or shellac, or polyurethane products that he put on those floors.  ALWAYS.  It must have been hard work too because I recall Daryl’s hands always heavily calloused and always dirty like a mechanics even after meticulous washing.  He was a good and kind man with whom the world was a better place.  Oh, and by the way, that Stirling sheep base soap is just so amazing. (And I’m not sure it’s discontinued but it is not to be found on their website).
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(03-10-2022, 06:25 PM)Lipripper660 Wrote: Stirling Port Au Prince seems to be discontinued and hey, I get it.  Lots of folks like Vetiver WITH things but fewer like it when it stands alone.  I’m of the latter persuasion.  This Vetiver is not a stand alone but the only dance partner the root has is a bit of lemongrass to lighten the top note.  It’s got just a touch of smoke but that middle and base is just Vetiver.  As I was using it i was struck with its quasi- industrial scent and was transported back to a family friend Daryl Heider who made his living finishing hardwood floors.  You know, basketball gyms, churches, etc.  I can’t recall all of Daryl’s kids names but I do know his girls were gorgeous cheerleaders and his son Lee was my idol.  I picked em good too because Lee became a fighter jet pilot for the air force and then a commercial pilot for PanAm.  Anyway, the Heider house always had a background scent of whatever varnishes or shellac, or polyurethane products that he put on those floors.  ALWAYS.  It must have been hard work too because I recall Daryl’s hands always heavily calloused and always dirty like a mechanics even after meticulous washing.  He was a good and kind man with whom the world was a better place.  Oh, and by the way, that Stirling sheep base soap is just so amazing.
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I'm not shocked that a vetiver scent would be discontinued. It's a scent for the few and the proud. A few years ago Nero told me Black Velvet wasn't a scent that would have wide appeal. He was/is right. Not the best seller, but it has some damn dedicated diehards and it's one of the better selling Parfums.

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