(05-13-2024, 01:28 AM)DanLaw Wrote:(05-12-2024, 10:58 PM)Tedolph Wrote: Had a light beard today, Use a disposable single edge razor and an artisan shave soap and aftershave.
Was particularly careful about not using excessive pressure and using multiple passes. Results were not bad but there was more irritation than if I did a proper SR shave.
Only thing found approaching a SR shave in quality and comfort is the Vector Ti. Admittedly, favour SR but not the time and maintenance.
$340.00! Yikes! My humble Gold Dollar 300 SR cost me $12.00 (plus shipping) and a few laps on my 1000/4000 grit whet stone. But of course, not as sharp as a Feather Artist Club blade.
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Razor: Gem 1912 Damaskeene
Blade: Personna GEM PTFE Stainless Steel Blade
Brush: Yaqi Panda in black & white tuxedo synthetic
Pre-Shave: Proraso White Pre-Shave Cream
Lather: Spearhead Shaving Seaforth Black Watch
Aftershave: Seaforth! Black Watch Aftershave Toner
Additional Care:
Thayers Facial Tonic Witch Hazel Unscented
Nivea Post Shave Balm
Dave
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(05-13-2024, 07:00 PM)Tedolph Wrote:(05-13-2024, 01:28 AM)DanLaw Wrote:(05-12-2024, 10:58 PM)Tedolph Wrote: Had a light beard today, Use a disposable single edge razor and an artisan shave soap and aftershave.
Was particularly careful about not using excessive pressure and using multiple passes. Results were not bad but there was more irritation than if I did a proper SR shave.
Only thing found approaching a SR shave in quality and comfort is the Vector Ti. Admittedly, favour SR but not the time and maintenance.
$340.00! Yikes! My humble Gold Dollar 300 SR cost me $12.00 (plus shipping) and a few laps on my 1000/4000 grit whet stone. But of course, not as sharp as a Feather Artist Club blade.
Hate to admit this but getting a SR quality shave brainlessly, inside 20 minutes for 3 passes, prep and clean up was worth it; SR (allocating sharpening) was at least an hour all in per shave. Realize some faster but highly disfigured face so had to exercise care
(05-13-2024, 10:35 PM)DanLaw Wrote:(05-13-2024, 07:00 PM)Tedolph Wrote:(05-13-2024, 01:28 AM)DanLaw Wrote: Only thing found approaching a SR shave in quality and comfort is the Vector Ti. Admittedly, favour SR but not the time and maintenance.
$340.00! Yikes! My humble Gold Dollar 300 SR cost me $12.00 (plus shipping) and a few laps on my 1000/4000 grit whet stone. But of course, not as sharp as a Feather Artist Club blade.
Hate to admit this but getting a SR quality shave brainlessly, inside 20 minutes for 3 passes, prep and clean up was worth it; SR (allocating sharpening) was at least an hour all in per shave. Realize some faster but highly disfigured face so had to exercise care
Understood. For me, a leisurely 3x pass SR shave is about 20 minutes. Actually I cheat. For the last touch up pass and the back of my neck I use a Valet Auto Strop with an old Feather blade. I won't use an SR where I can't see.
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2024, 04:35 AM by DanLaw.)
(05-14-2024, 12:51 AM)Tedolph Wrote:(05-13-2024, 10:35 PM)DanLaw Wrote:(05-13-2024, 07:00 PM)Tedolph Wrote: $340.00! Yikes! My humble Gold Dollar 300 SR cost me $12.00 (plus shipping) and a few laps on my 1000/4000 grit whet stone. But of course, not as sharp as a Feather Artist Club blade.
Hate to admit this but getting a SR quality shave brainlessly, inside 20 minutes for 3 passes, prep and clean up was worth it; SR (allocating sharpening) was at least an hour all in per shave. Realize some faster but highly disfigured face so had to exercise care
Understood. For me, a leisurely 3x pass SR shave is about 20 minutes. Actually I cheat. For the last touch up pass and the back of my neck I use a Valet Auto Strop with an old Feather blade. I won't use an SR where I can't see.
Lathering takes about 10 minutes, so that's the majority of the time spent in the 20 minutes with SE or about a sixth of SR before steel touches face - figure another 10 minutes cleanup and strop. Your SR skills must be amazing to shave, clean up, strop and oil in 10 minutes. With SR took about an hour a week to sharpen/hone the matched pair so allocated 20 mins per shave right there - Hell just setting up the stones took 15 minutes including planing, add another 10 minutes to clean, refinish and put away, say 35 minutes a week actually honing.
(05-14-2024, 04:29 AM)DanLaw Wrote:(05-14-2024, 12:51 AM)Tedolph Wrote:(05-13-2024, 10:35 PM)DanLaw Wrote: Hate to admit this but getting a SR quality shave brainlessly, inside 20 minutes for 3 passes, prep and clean up was worth it; SR (allocating sharpening) was at least an hour all in per shave. Realize some faster but highly disfigured face so had to exercise care
Understood. For me, a leisurely 3x pass SR shave is about 20 minutes. Actually I cheat. For the last touch up pass and the back of my neck I use a Valet Auto Strop with an old Feather blade. I won't use an SR where I can't see.
Lathering takes about 10 minutes, so that's the majority of the time spent in the 20 minutes with SE or about a sixth of SR before steel touches face - figure another 10 minutes cleanup and strop. Your SR skills must be amazing to shave, clean up, strop and oil in 10 minutes. With SR took about an hour a week to sharpen/hone the matched pair so allocated 20 mins per shave right there - Hell just setting up the stones took 15 minutes including planing, add another 10 minutes to clean, refinish and put away, say 35 minutes a week actually honing.
I face lather almost exclusively (unless I am using creme out of a tube) so lathering takes me 20 sec. to load and then maybe one minute to build the lather on my face. Each pass takes less than 5 minutes. Clean up is a cold wash cloth compress. Then pat dry and apply aftershave.....Ahhhhh.......
(05-14-2024, 04:13 PM)Tedolph Wrote:(05-14-2024, 04:29 AM)DanLaw Wrote:(05-14-2024, 12:51 AM)Tedolph Wrote: Understood. For me, a leisurely 3x pass SR shave is about 20 minutes. Actually I cheat. For the last touch up pass and the back of my neck I use a Valet Auto Strop with an old Feather blade. I won't use an SR where I can't see.
Lathering takes about 10 minutes, so that's the majority of the time spent in the 20 minutes with SE or about a sixth of SR before steel touches face - figure another 10 minutes cleanup and strop. Your SR skills must be amazing to shave, clean up, strop and oil in 10 minutes. With SR took about an hour a week to sharpen/hone the matched pair so allocated 20 mins per shave right there - Hell just setting up the stones took 15 minutes including planing, add another 10 minutes to clean, refinish and put away, say 35 minutes a week actually honing.
I face lather almost exclusively (unless I am using creme out of a tube) so lathering takes me 20 sec. to load and then maybe one minute to build the lather on my face. Each pass takes less than 5 minutes. Clean up is a cold wash cloth compress. Then pat dry and apply aftershave.....Ahhhhh.......
Clearly you have great skin and are also much more skilled SR shaver. Spend about 20 minutes so say 6:40/pass actually shaving 3 passes. Do you do clean up equipment and strop? Weekly hone? I am including clean counter top to clean counter top and allocating weekly hone time over 3 shaves
(05-14-2024, 06:49 PM)DanLaw Wrote:(05-14-2024, 04:13 PM)Tedolph Wrote:(05-14-2024, 04:29 AM)DanLaw Wrote: Lathering takes about 10 minutes, so that's the majority of the time spent in the 20 minutes with SE or about a sixth of SR before steel touches face - figure another 10 minutes cleanup and strop. Your SR skills must be amazing to shave, clean up, strop and oil in 10 minutes. With SR took about an hour a week to sharpen/hone the matched pair so allocated 20 mins per shave right there - Hell just setting up the stones took 15 minutes including planing, add another 10 minutes to clean, refinish and put away, say 35 minutes a week actually honing.
I face lather almost exclusively (unless I am using creme out of a tube) so lathering takes me 20 sec. to load and then maybe one minute to build the lather on my face. Each pass takes less than 5 minutes. Clean up is a cold wash cloth compress. Then pat dry and apply aftershave.....Ahhhhh.......
Clearly you have great skin and are also much more skilled SR shaver. Spend about 20 minutes so say 6:40/pass actually shaving 3 passes. Do you do clean up equipment and strop? Weekly hone? I am including clean counter top to clean counter top and allocating weekly hone time over 3 shaves
The passes go pretty quickly. The SR covers a lot of real estate and I use long strokes-no buffing. My barber says that his father could shave himself with one stroke, never lifting the SR from his face for a single pass. I do clean up at the end including rinsing the razor, and giving it a few passes over the linen strop and then the leather stop to clean and dry the edge before putting it away in the den. Also, I rinse and squeeze out the brush, and rinse the soap off before putting all that away. I didn't include that in the count so maybe add five minutes for that. I do my full strop later the next day after the blade has had a time to rest. One I have initially honed the razor on a 1000/4000 stone I only seem to need to hone once or twice a year. I use an Arkansas stone (maybe 8k or 10k grit), followed by a pasted cotton strop and that is all. Sometimes I go to my 6000 grit wet stone for just a few passes before the Arkansas stone. I don't keep my SR super sharp. Just sharp enough to shave. I rely on multiple passes, and very light pressure for closeness. Also, I don't chase BBS, but am usually satisfied with a DFS. Typically, that will last me two days if I didn't miss a spot.
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