Want to Sell Blackbird, Wolfman & UFO

Yeah I'm not sure the poster shouldn't be allowed to post this clownery, I just think that universal scorn and ridicule is an appropriate response.

I'm not going to buy this stuff but I don't see why he can't post. Just don't buy it, it doesn't hurt you. And you never know, someone on this forum might want to buy these at his price. For people that have extra cash, and don't like hunting, this is a perfect deal for them. The market isn't fake, if something sells for $500 then it's worth $500.
Kanye west shoes sell for $200 and sell out and then are re-sold for $800. Am I mad? No. Would I buy them for that price? Hell no. But people can do what they want.

I paid $200 for my UFO and it's worth every penny.

Carry on.

I'm willing to bet the OP gets his asking price... either here on the forum or on eBay.

This is exactly what Wolfman stuff is worth on the used market. If it offends you, I think you have bigger problems in life.


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In all fairness, the razor is worth what someone is willing to pay.

On eBay, not necessarily on the forums.  The OP is only here for the BST and should not be allowed to post it.

The comments are to protect everyone, so no one is tempted to buy it.  His price is WAAAAAAY out of line and insulting.

why not?

why is his price insulting if someone is willing to pay it?

Yeah I'm not sure the poster shouldn't be allowed to post this clownery, I just think that universal scorn and ridicule is an appropriate response.

why? if someone wants to pay his price, they'll pay it. if not, he'll either take it down or adjust the price. why do forums act like there isn't a market for wet shaving items within the forums them self?

OK then.

I'm glad the Admins and Mods are accepting of people joining DFS to only use the selling forum. I'm also glad they don't mind potential members trying to gouge participating members who contribute to the forum outside of selling stuff.

I'm done with this thread as the mods are OK with it.

Good luck with the sale.

OK then.  

I'm glad the Admins and Mods are accepting of people joining DFS to only use the selling forum.  I'm also glad they don't mind potential members trying to gouge participating members who contribute to the forum outside of selling stuff.

I'm done with this thread as the mods are OK with it.

Good luck with the sale.

while we'd certainly like everyone to participate in all aspects of the forum, that's not really being realistic. if we place a restriction on needing to be here for X days and have Y posts, then people just create junk posts to get past those restrictions.

as far as the price, yes, rather than being naive about the wet shaving market, I'm ok with people listing items for sale that are in very high demand with very low supply...this is how the markets work for everything in the world. for people to NOT think this is how stuff works with wet shaving items because we post on forums, they're kidding themselves.

does anyone truly believe wet shaving items are devoid of market forces?!?!?!?

Yeah I'm not sure the poster shouldn't be allowed to post this clownery, I just think that universal scorn and ridicule is an appropriate response.

why?  if someone wants to pay his price, they'll pay it.  if not, he'll either take it down or adjust the price.  why do forums act like there isn't a market for wet shaving items within the forums them self?

Look it, free speech and open markets go both ways.  I'm not saying he can't sell it at that price, I'm just saying I'm going to roast his price because its over the top. The one thing I will say is, I do not know what the OP paid for the razor, I only know that the razor is less than $300 brand new.  This information is not privy to me. Perhaps the OP paid $500 for the razor and is just trying to get his money back out of it.  That could be the case here, I'll grant some of you that.  

I view these BSTs a little differently than something like ebay however, and I feel like we are all sharing this hobby with one another, trying to spread the hobby and look out for one another.  When someone comes at me with a Wolfman, which I have yet to ever own, at a price double what one should cost brand new, it irritates me because no matter what anyone says, it is the very definition of gouging.  Perhaps the OP got gouged and paid $535.  Thats his problem.  Go offer that item you got gouged for on eBay and get that crap off of this forum.  If the OP did not get gouged and saw the going rate on ebay was $500+ and decided to bring that to a forum full of shavers that know the original price of that razor, they deserve to have that price skewered because they are trying to gain an obscene profit, rather than be a gentleman and offer the item at a fair price. My opinion.

He can sell it correct? This is an open forum with open opinions correct? I can criticize it. Period.

You will not find a person that supports open markets and capitalism anymore than I do, I love it.  Everything with capitalism isn't black and white however, and just pointing at there being a free market when someone gouges and people criticize it bothers me. Part of capitalism and part of free markets is criticism and analysis of prices by people, especially when there is freedom of speech along with freedom of money exchange for goods and services.

What if someone reads our criticism and sleeps on a $535 Wolfman razor purchase, rather than impulse buying it.  Then the price might come down if no one buys it at that ridiculously inflated price. Heck maybe someone will pay that.  I wish they'd wait. Just wait. Sleep on it man.

Andrew, let them post. No problem. Let us criticize. Thats all I'm saying.

Yeah I'm not sure the poster shouldn't be allowed to post this clownery, I just think that universal scorn and ridicule is an appropriate response.

why?  if someone wants to pay his price, they'll pay it.  if not, he'll either take it down or adjust the price.  why do forums act like there isn't a market for wet shaving items within the forums them self?

Look it, free speech and open markets go both ways.  I'm not saying he can't sell it at that price, I'm just saying I'm going to roast his price because its over the top. The one thing I will say is, I do not know what the OP paid for the razor, I only know that the razor is less than $300 brand new.  This information is not privy to me. Perhaps the OP paid $500 for the razor and is just trying to get his money back out of it.  That could be the case here, I'll grant some of you that.  

I view these BSTs a little differently than something like ebay however, and I feel like we are all sharing this hobby with one another, trying to spread the hobby and look out for one another.  When someone comes at me with a Wolfman, which I have yet to ever own, at a price double what one should cost brand new, it irritates me because no matter what anyone says, it is the very definition of gouging.  Perhaps the OP got gouged and paid $535.  Thats his problem.  Go offer that item you got gouged for on eBay and get that crap off of this forum.  If the OP did not get gouged and saw the going rate on ebay was $500+ and decided to bring that to a forum full of shavers that know the original price of that razor, they deserve to have that price skewered because they are trying to gain an obscene profit, rather than be a gentleman and offer the item at a fair price. My opinion.

He can sell it correct? This is an open forum with open opinions correct? I can criticize it. Period.

You will not find a person that supports open markets and capitalism anymore than I do, I love it.  Everything with capitalism isn't black and white however, and just pointing at there being a free market when someone gouges and people criticize it bothers me. Part of capitalism and part of free markets is criticism and analysis of prices by people, especially when there is freedom of speech along with freedom of money exchange for goods and services.

What if someone reads our criticism and sleeps on a $535 Wolfman razor purchase, rather than impulse buying it.  Then the price might come down if no one buys it at that ridiculously inflated price. Heck maybe someone will pay that.  I wish they'd wait. Just wait. Sleep on it man.

Andrew, let them post. No problem.  Let us criticize.  Thats all I'm saying.

yes, maybe they're going for $300 new, if you can get on the list or buy them when James lists them on his website. for a lot of people, that's not realistic and they don't feel like waiting on some list to pick up a razor, so they pay the premium to obtain it ASAP. I'd do the same if I didn't want to wait for something. this is equivalent, imho, to paying next-day shipping for a part for your car or something else you need that you can't obtain locally.

why are bst on forums different? they accomplish the same exact thing as ebay or craigslist...to buy, trade and sell items voluntarily that someone agrees to.

we are letting people post. but to roast someone for listing an item at a price they feel it's worth (and I guarantee you it'll sell) and saying they feel insulted and that they shouldn't be able to post in the BST is out of line.

Yeah I'm not sure the poster shouldn't be allowed to post this clownery, I just think that universal scorn and ridicule is an appropriate response.

why?  if someone wants to pay his price, they'll pay it.  if not, he'll either take it down or adjust the price.  why do forums act like there isn't a market for wet shaving items within the forums them self?

Look it, free speech and open markets go both ways.  I'm not saying he can't sell it at that price, I'm just saying I'm going to roast his price because its over the top. The one thing I will say is, I do not know what the OP paid for the razor, I only know that the razor is less than $300 brand new.  This information is not privy to me. Perhaps the OP paid $500 for the razor and is just trying to get his money back out of it.  That could be the case here, I'll grant some of you that.  

I view these BSTs a little differently than something like ebay however, and I feel like we are all sharing this hobby with one another, trying to spread the hobby and look out for one another.  When someone comes at me with a Wolfman, which I have yet to ever own, at a price double what one should cost brand new, it irritates me because no matter what anyone says, it is the very definition of gouging.  Perhaps the OP got gouged and paid $535.  Thats his problem.  Go offer that item you got gouged for on eBay and get that crap off of this forum.  If the OP did not get gouged and saw the going rate on ebay was $500+ and decided to bring that to a forum full of shavers that know the original price of that razor, they deserve to have that price skewered because they are trying to gain an obscene profit, rather than be a gentleman and offer the item at a fair price. My opinion.

He can sell it correct? This is an open forum with open opinions correct? I can criticize it. Period.

You will not find a person that supports open markets and capitalism anymore than I do, I love it.  Everything with capitalism isn't black and white however, and just pointing at there being a free market when someone gouges and people criticize it bothers me. Part of capitalism and part of free markets is criticism and analysis of prices by people, especially when there is freedom of speech along with freedom of money exchange for goods and services.

What if someone reads our criticism and sleeps on a $535 Wolfman razor purchase, rather than impulse buying it.  Then the price might come down if no one buys it at that ridiculously inflated price. Heck maybe someone will pay that.  I wish they'd wait. Just wait. Sleep on it man.

Andrew, let them post. No problem. Let us criticize. Thats all I'm saying.

All valid points, but we need to put things in perspective. This is a board about wet shaving and a BST made up of those products. It's not like he's selling marked up bottled water in the 9th ward after Katrina.

His penalty for asking too much is to not sell, and maybe a few chides here and there. Suggesting that the BST is somehow above the real world is a slippery slope that will lead to rare items not being listed at all because no one wants to lose or get less than market value for an item. Like hrfdez, I've overpaid at times and I was happy to do so. The difference in price was (to me) to account for the actual availability of the item I wanted. Even if you offered that higher amount to the original manufacturer, they likely couldn't produce it and have it at your door in 2 days.

why?  if someone wants to pay his price, they'll pay it.  if not, he'll either take it down or adjust the price.  why do forums act like there isn't a market for wet shaving items within the forums them self?

Look it, free speech and open markets go both ways.  I'm not saying he can't sell it at that price, I'm just saying I'm going to roast his price because its over the top. The one thing I will say is, I do not know what the OP paid for the razor, I only know that the razor is less than $300 brand new.  This information is not privy to me. Perhaps the OP paid $500 for the razor and is just trying to get his money back out of it.  That could be the case here, I'll grant some of you that.  

I view these BSTs a little differently than something like ebay however, and I feel like we are all sharing this hobby with one another, trying to spread the hobby and look out for one another.  When someone comes at me with a Wolfman, which I have yet to ever own, at a price double what one should cost brand new, it irritates me because no matter what anyone says, it is the very definition of gouging.  Perhaps the OP got gouged and paid $535.  Thats his problem.  Go offer that item you got gouged for on eBay and get that crap off of this forum.  If the OP did not get gouged and saw the going rate on ebay was $500+ and decided to bring that to a forum full of shavers that know the original price of that razor, they deserve to have that price skewered because they are trying to gain an obscene profit, rather than be a gentleman and offer the item at a fair price. My opinion.

He can sell it correct? This is an open forum with open opinions correct? I can criticize it. Period.

You will not find a person that supports open markets and capitalism anymore than I do, I love it.  Everything with capitalism isn't black and white however, and just pointing at there being a free market when someone gouges and people criticize it bothers me. Part of capitalism and part of free markets is criticism and analysis of prices by people, especially when there is freedom of speech along with freedom of money exchange for goods and services.

What if someone reads our criticism and sleeps on a $535 Wolfman razor purchase, rather than impulse buying it.  Then the price might come down if no one buys it at that ridiculously inflated price. Heck maybe someone will pay that.  I wish they'd wait. Just wait. Sleep on it man.

Andrew, let them post. No problem.  Let us criticize.  Thats all I'm saying.

All valid points, but we need to put things in perspective.  This is a board about wet shaving and a BST made up of those products.  It's not like he's selling marked up bottled water in the 9th ward after Katrina.

His penalty for asking too much is to not sell, and maybe a few chides here and there.  Suggesting that the BST is somehow above the real world is a slippery slope that will lead to rare items not being listed at all because no one wants to lose or get less than market value for an item.  Like hrfdez, I've overpaid at times and I was happy to do so.  The difference in price was (to me) to account for the actual availability of the item I wanted.  Even if you offered that higher amount to the original manufacturer, they likely couldn't produce it and have it at your door in 2 days.

exactly!

as soon as people stop holding the wet shaving forums BST as some sacred ground, people will realize that some stuff will sell on the high side while other stuff will sell on the low side.

no one EVER has a problem when items sell for below market value...EVER...