#91

Posting Freak
(02-19-2019, 05:16 PM)wyze0ne Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 05:03 PM)GroomingDept Wrote: It's not bad, you have your taste in art and I have mine. There are whole art movement that are based on appropriation, pastiche, etc..

I'm not talking about my opinion of the painting itself. I find it poor taste for you to use it as your soap label whether it's legal or not. There was no design effort on your part at all. You just took somebody else's work, slapped it on your product and called it done. As an artist myself, it's just not something I consider cool that's all.

I find this interesting.  Although I'm retired now, among my responsibilities as in house corporate lawyer was intellectual property.  Patents, trademarks, logo, branding, social media etc.  I reviewed all external material, presentations, slideshows etc.  Annual Reports were always interesting.  The first question I would ask the author was, "Do you own the rights to all images used in your presentation?"  This was often met with blank stares and claims that they'd found them on the internet so therefore they must be free and in the public domain.  The worst offenders were the newly graduated professionals - of all the things they'd learned at school, respect for, or even acknowledgement of the existence of the intellectual property rights of artists, writers, and general content creators was just not one of those things.  Most of the time the clients listened and endeavoured to do it right.  Sometimes they avoided me or just lied - its just so much easier to say "yes" than to go back and try to get permissions or change your presentation and who's going to sue us anyway?  My job was to identify and mitigate/manage legal risk to the corporation.  We don't need lawsuits.  Sometimes its pretty straightforward to get the rights you need and its all laid out on the website where the images reside.  Its straightforward if you stick with something like istockphoto.com or Gettyimages or a similar licensing marketplace.  Sometimes its not so easy, or cheap.  The process of getting the rights to use images of Albert Einstein is quite involved and not cheap.  You should give yourself plenty of lead time if his image is in your marketing plan.  Bottom line, intellectual property rights should be considered early in the formation of your marketing plan.  A lawsuit can skew your economics.  

wyze0ne , as an artist I thought you might like this song by Nancy White, Canadian artist.  She has some humorous material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LiaeNHq4Y

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#92

Member
Detroit
Thank you Marko.

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- Jeff
#93

Merchant
Santa Rosa - CA
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2019, 05:58 PM by GroomingDept.)
I fully understand the part about the copyright. I will continue to appropriate, lift, modify, photoshop artwork I find on the internet. But now when I approach designing a label I'll consider copyrights first and foremost.


Regarding taste and aesthetics, wyze0ne Here is one of the most respected perfume house in existence. They just released these 3 scents. Lots of people are freaking out on the internet: This is not art, this not labels, this is not design, this just finding photo on the internet and slapping them on your soap Smile

https://www.luckyscent.com/product/36522...rfums-mdci

https://www.luckyscent.com/product/36523...rfums-mdci

https://www.luckyscent.com/product/36524...rfums-mdci

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#94
It’s clear Mo didn’t violate any copyrights here and was free to use the artwork. The artwork is over 100 years old and the artist has been dead over 30. How many shirts, mugs, etc. with old artwork are sold everywhere? Some people are way too critical about things.
Mo, I think it’s nice and fits the scent perfectly while celebrating great art.

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#95

Merchant
Santa Rosa - CA
The labels couldn't be canceled they already shipped. I'm not going to use them, I'm making new design for the soap.

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#96

Member
Detroit
(02-19-2019, 05:55 PM)GroomingDept Wrote: I will continue to appropriate, lift, modify, photoshop artwork I find on the internet.

And I will continue to believe that's lame as hell, but you do you I guess.
- Jeff
#97

Merchant
Santa Rosa - CA
(02-19-2019, 06:14 PM)wyze0ne Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 05:55 PM)GroomingDept Wrote: I will continue to appropriate, lift, modify, photoshop artwork I find on the internet.

And I will continue to believe that's lame as hell, but you do you I guess.

I respect your opinion. Thank you for brining up the copyright issue with the Veritas label.
#98

Merchant
Santa Rosa - CA
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The new veritas top label.

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#99
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2019, 07:14 PM by Dr_Facilier.)
Mo,

Cool new label.

Since this soap poses some... unique challenges posed by it's ground breaking consistency... maybe a new type of tub is in order?

That way your customers aren't lathering off their bathroom floor like jonesing crack addicts?

Maybe something like this...

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#100

A. Feitar
Portland, OR
I would think that Renaissance Italian art is definetly in the public domain!

I would also be happy if you just took a black sharpie pen and wrote “Veritas” on the container.


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