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Shave with a Feather blade was more enjoyable today. Traded off between both Gibbs and Heritage comparably loaded and set at N, and found the ATG moustache area going smoother with the Heritage and beard efficiency perfectly adequate with both razors. More blade feel with the Gibbs. Whether that's a function of greater exposure or inferior clamping with a trimmed blade I'm not sure. Head shave still necessitad some pick-ups, accomplished again with the Shake Sharp..

I prefer the simpler adjustment mechanism of the Gibbs which doesn't require messing with the handle.

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(05-30-2021, 02:41 PM)jmudrick Wrote: I prefer the simpler adjustment mechanism of the Gibbs which doesn't require messing with the handle.
So the same BS that the Yaqi had. BTW - I did offer my help with it

Another question - does the Gibbs (or my) handle fit Jeff?

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(05-30-2021, 02:57 PM)Clouds Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 02:41 PM)jmudrick Wrote: I prefer the simpler adjustment mechanism of the Gibbs which doesn't require messing with the handle.
So the same BS that the Yaqi had. BTW - I did offer my help with it

Another question - does the Gibbs (or my) handle fit Jeff?
No, not interchangeable.
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jmudrick  your thought on blade altered for the original Gibbs is actually a thought I had also.
I mean when I/we slice the ends off of a razor blade should make it flimsier.

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#125

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(05-30-2021, 03:09 PM)jmudrick Wrote: No, not interchangeable.
It looks a finer thread and that also means that the settings do not match up with each other.

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(This post was last modified: 05-30-2021, 04:16 PM by BBS.)
(05-30-2021, 04:02 PM)Clouds Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 03:09 PM)jmudrick Wrote: No, not interchangeable.
It looks a finer thread and that also means that the settings do not match up with each other.

It will depend the thread on the other side but if the handle threads are different then it is a good bet the threads on the opposite side will be different also. Besides being different the next question would are the threads on the Heritage Metric or SAE. That would also guarantee they won't be apples to apples for each dial setting. It is a nice piece and all but little details like this make or break the overall package desirability depending how it is billed. So it looks like a Gibbs but now it may not shave like one. If the customer is buying it because they want a Gibbs like shave without having to modify blades then it is a fail from a reproduction standpoint.
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(05-30-2021, 03:09 PM)jmudrick Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 02:57 PM)Clouds Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 02:41 PM)jmudrick Wrote: I prefer the simpler adjustment mechanism of the Gibbs which doesn't require messing with the handle.
So the same BS that the Yaqi had. BTW - I did offer my help with it

Another question - does the Gibbs (or my) handle fit Jeff?
No, not interchangeable.
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A 3d printed or metal turned adaptor will fix that.
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(This post was last modified: 05-30-2021, 04:23 PM by Clouds.)
(05-30-2021, 04:09 PM)BBS Wrote: It will depend the thread on the other side but if the handle threads are different then it is a good bet the threads on the opposite side will be different also.

I'm not understanding what you are saying here.
The Gibbs thread is a 8x1mm, so a full turn lowers the bottom plate 1mm. If its a finer thread the same full turn doesn't drop the bottom plate by the same amount - 1mm. (Or that's the way I understand things to work)

(05-30-2021, 04:09 PM)BBS Wrote: Besides being different the next question would are the threads on the Heritage Metric or SAE.

Made in China they will most likely be metric and if I was going to guess they are 8x0.9mm which is the same as the Yaqi.

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(This post was last modified: 05-30-2021, 04:44 PM by Patelliott.)
I received my razor yesterday and noticed a note saying to please watch the video in our email. I hadn’t received an email from him and was curious if anyone else did.

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(This post was last modified: 05-30-2021, 04:59 PM by BBS.)
(05-30-2021, 04:22 PM)Clouds Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 04:09 PM)BBS Wrote: It will depend the thread on the other side but if the handle threads are different then it is a good bet the threads on the opposite side will be different also.

I'm not understanding what you are saying here.
The Gibbs thread is a 8x1mm, so a full turn lowers the bottom plate 1mm. If its a finer thread the same full turn doesn't drop the bottom plate by the same amount - 1mm. (Or that's the way I understand things to work)

(05-30-2021, 04:09 PM)BBS Wrote: Besides being different the next question would are the threads on the Heritage Metric or SAE.

Made in China they will most likely be metric and if I was going to guess they are 8x0.9mm which is the same as the Yaqi.

The adjuster knob should have threads on both sides of the knob. The threads on the side that are screwed into the razor head are the ones that are responsible for the actual adjustment of the blade gap. It is a case of accuracy and precision. The way it is defined think of a target, where is the bullseye then can you hit it. If you can that means you are accurate. Precision is if you fire a bunch shots how tightly can group them on the bullseye.

Gibbs razors were never precise from one razor to the next if you set them strictly by a dial number but they are accurate because they use the same pitch for the thread from razor to razor. If they bottomed out the dials on the thread first for each razor then put the numbers on the dial they still won't be precise since if you switch the dials to different razors the numbers would be off again. The only way to get a precise translation to compare Gibbs razors is you need to bottom 2 of them out on the adjuster dial then make note of how many revolutions and on what number they land on when both are gapped the same. Then and only then can you adjust them from that point 1 number or amount of turn at the same time where they will be accurate and precise regardless of what the dial number says.

Short story long if that thread is not the same on the heritage it is neither accurate or precise and a major fail if you are selling it to shave like a Gibbs and not worth buying. Unless I am misreading the market and buyer, the real customer and the one that is going to sustain the sales is the one that wants a Gibbs razor that they don't have to modify blades for not something like looks like a Gibbs but doesn't shave like one. This isn't a Janus adjustable that you can get away with it not shaving like a Toggle since the selling point is it is a copy of design not the function of the shave itself.

It is a simple fix which is have the threads match an original Gibbs.

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