#71

Merchant
Cleveland, Ohio
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: 

My day job is a health professional. I'm a chiropractor and naturopath. Here is my latest article: 

Do you have a loved one who smokes?

The Royal College of Physicians recently released a report that the use of e-cigarettes/nicotine vaporizers over regular tobacco products can reduce the long term health effects of smokers by 95%. This is 95% less cancer, heart attacks, strokes and lung disease than from smoking. They found that e-cig/vape users are more likely to quit tobacco and nicotine. They found that e-cig/vape users were almost exclusively ex-tobacco users and e-cigs/vapes are not a gateway to smoking for young people.

Full article with links.
#72

Chazz Reinhold HOF
(05-16-2016, 01:34 PM)jankdc Wrote: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: 

My day job is a health professional. I'm a chiropractor and naturopath. Here is my latest article: 

Do you have a loved one who smokes?

The Royal College of Physicians recently released a report that the use of e-cigarettes/nicotine vaporizers over regular tobacco products can reduce the long term health effects of smokers by 95%. This is 95% less cancer, heart attacks, strokes and lung disease than from smoking. They found that e-cig/vape users are more likely to quit tobacco and nicotine. They found that e-cig/vape users were almost exclusively ex-tobacco users and e-cigs/vapes are not a gateway to smoking for young people.

Full article with links.

I quit smoking fifteen years ago and it is the best thing I ever did.

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#73

That Bald Guy with the Big Beard
Bishop, CA
I quit smoking almost 3 years ago, and I agree...best thing I ever did.

I dont get the whole vape thing. I understand the idea of transitioning from cigs to vapes, but it seems like more long term studies are needed before a determination of safety can really bea made. Aftetall...in the 1950s, everyone amoked, it seemed. It wasnt until the 70s that people started realizing the damage being done.

I get that vapes only use water vapor or whatever, but it seems to me that breathing in essential oil components, even in vaporized sizes, would have to have some lasting effects o. Thw alveoli in the lungs. Especially the ones that do contain nicotine, which is a deadly toxin even removed from thw effects of carbon monoxide.

And with no real regulatory statutes to deterkine acceptable levels of components...the. whole thing seems shaky to me...

Just my humble opinion...

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#74

Member
Detroit
I also quit about 5 years ago. If you're a former smoker who vapes, to me its just trading one addiction for another, even if it is "healthier". It all really boils down to one thing though. Our lungs were designed to breathe in one thing only.......air.

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#75

Super Moderator
San Diego, Cal., USA
I do not smoke but I found the article somewhat self-serving. Smoking is bad for anyone and how all that garbage is delivered to one's lungs doesn't change that.

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#76

Merchant
Cleveland, Ohio
(04-29-2016, 03:51 PM)Null Wrote: I quit smoking fifteen years ago and it is the best thing I ever did.

Right! Smoking causes so much problems for people. Not just increase chance of death, but I also see an increase in inflammation, fatigue, moodiness, and slower healing times from injury. For those who won't or can't quit, I'm promoting this as an alternative to my patients.






(05-16-2016, 03:26 PM)BadDad Wrote: I quit smoking almost 3 years ago, and I agree...best thing I ever did.

I dont get the whole vape thing. I understand the idea of transitioning from cigs to vapes, but it seems like more long term studies are needed before a determination of safety can really bea made. Aftetall...in the 1950s, everyone amoked, it seemed. It wasnt until the 70s that people started realizing the damage being done.

I get that vapes only use water vapor or whatever, but it seems to me that breathing in essential oil components, even in vaporized sizes, would have to have some lasting effects o. Thw alveoli in the lungs. Especially the ones that do contain nicotine, which is a deadly toxin even removed from thw effects of carbon monoxide.

And with no real regulatory statutes to deterkine acceptable levels of components...the. whole thing seems shaky to me...

Just my humble opinion...

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(05-16-2016, 03:39 PM)wyze0ne Wrote: I also quit about 5 years ago. If you're a former smoker who vapes, to me its just trading one addiction for another, even if it is "healthier". It all really boils down to one thing though. Our lungs were designed to breathe in one thing only.......air.

Congratulation to both of you. The Royal college of physicians is the main medical organisation in the UK. They did the original report on the dangers of smoking 2 years before the U.S. Surgeon General. They expect an increase of heart and lung problems with the use of vaping. However, they estimate that it will be no more than 5% of the long term dangers from smoking. This was a 206 page piece with hundreds of citations. They are recommending all medical doctors to advise their patients who smoke to switch. They've even started to change their hospital policies.

(05-16-2016, 04:49 PM)Freddy Wrote: I do not smoke but I found the article somewhat self-serving. Smoking is bad for anyone and how all that garbage is delivered to one's lungs doesn't change that.
I'm sorry that you feel this is self-serving. I am a health professional, I don't vape. I never smoked I have several patients that have been unable to quit smoking for a variety of reasons. I felt the same about vaping until I read the report.

I didn't realize that I would get such a response. I just felt strongly about something and thought to share it with all of you.

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#77

Super Moderator
San Diego, Cal., USA
(05-16-2016, 06:54 PM)jankdc Wrote:
(05-16-2016, 04:49 PM)Freddy Wrote: I do not smoke but I found the article somewhat self-serving.  Smoking is bad for anyone and how all that garbage is delivered to one's lungs doesn't change that.
I'm sorry that you feel this is self-serving. I am a health professional, I don't vape. I never smoked I have several patients that have been unable to quit smoking for a variety of reasons. I felt the same about vaping until I read the report.

I didn't realize that I would get such a response. I just felt strongly about something and thought to share it with all of you.

What I meant by self-serving is that I get the feeling that the author is getting something out of this, in other words, compensated in some way.  One of my closest friends is a heavy smoker, and has been for most of his 74 years.  I have known him since he was 29 and have seen the toll smoking has taken on him but I still don't believe that any delivery system of something that will harm one is a good thing.  If nothing else, it still glamorizes smoking (have you seen the ads) and that is not good for young people to see, especially in their gadget obsessed world.  Trying to put an air of respectability on something that should not be encouraged just reminds me of what the big tabacco companies did for years.

I understand that you may feel strongly about this and there is nothing wrong with that.  I also realize that you believe this might be the right direction to go.  I just cannot feel that way but I do thank you for bringing this to our attention.  I would be curious to see where this stands 50 years from now, though I won't be around to know.

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#78

Merchant
Cleveland, Ohio
(05-16-2016, 07:14 PM)Freddy Wrote:
(05-16-2016, 06:54 PM)jankdc Wrote:
(05-16-2016, 04:49 PM)Freddy Wrote: I do not smoke but I found the article somewhat self-serving.  Smoking is bad for anyone and how all that garbage is delivered to one's lungs doesn't change that.
I'm sorry that you feel this is self-serving. I am a health professional, I don't vape. I never smoked I have several patients that have been unable to quit smoking for a variety of reasons. I felt the same about vaping until I read the report.

I didn't realize that I would get such a response. I just felt strongly about something and thought to share it with all of you.

What I meant by self-serving is that I get the feeling that the author is getting something out of this, in other words, compensated in some way.  One of my closest friends is a heavy smoker, and has been for most of his 74 years.  I have known him since he was 29 and have seen the toll smoking has taken on him but I still don't believe that any delivery system of something that will harm one is a good thing.  If nothing else, it still glamorizes smoking (have you seen the ads) and that is not good for young people to see, especially in their gadget obsessed world.  Trying to put an air of respectability on something that should not be encouraged just reminds me of what the big tabacco companies did for years.

I understand that you may feel strongly about this and there is nothing wrong with that.  I also realize that you believe this might be the right direction to go.  I just cannot feel that way but I do thank you for bringing this to our attention.  I would be curious to see where this stands 50 years from now, though I won't be around to know.

Thanks for the feedback. I am the author of the original article that I posted. I don't get anything out of it. In fact after reading the Royal College of Physicians report, I've started to give patients that smoke gift certificates to local vape shops. There are concerns with this technology, but I truly think that your friend would benefit.

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#79
Interesting article! A friend of mine used e-cigarettes as a gateway to quitting smoking. A year or so after he began vaping while gradually reducing the nicotine content of his refills, he was able to get down to 0 nicotine and now is smoke free.

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#80

Member
Sydney, Australia
(05-16-2016, 06:54 PM)jankdc Wrote:
(04-29-2016, 03:51 PM)Null Wrote: I quit smoking fifteen years ago and it is the best thing I ever did.

Right! Smoking causes so much problems for people. Not just increase chance of death, but I also see an increase in inflammation, fatigue, moodiness, and slower healing times from injury. For those who won't or can't quit, I'm promoting this as an alternative to my patients.

Something be funny here, I think that quote should be attributed to hrfdez, not me?


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