#611

Merchant
Winnipeg, Canada
(06-14-2018, 07:23 AM)TheHunter Wrote: This sounds like it will be right up my alley, very nice!

(06-14-2018, 03:28 PM)MattM97 Wrote: Ryan just have a button with all 3 sets as an option. Will save me a few clicks.

(06-14-2018, 04:00 PM)dfoulk Wrote: Sicily sounds awesome as well.

This is quickly becoming my favorite thread.
These sound like some outstanding new scents.

(06-14-2018, 04:11 PM)vtmax Wrote: Yes, it’s great Ryan is spending some time here on DFS.

I hope my son doesn’t see Sicily...yet. He’s just started shaving and is really getting into the hobby and wants two Kyoto’s. Rolleyes

(06-14-2018, 04:00 PM)dfoulk Wrote: Sicily sounds awesome as well.

This is quickly becoming my favorite thread.
These sound like some outstanding new scents.

Thanks guys! I should have time now to be more active in forums. I just post here and sometimes on Reddit. I find the forum setup to be better for communicating as stuff gets buried quickly on Reddit never to be seen again. Having everything here in one thread is nice, so this thread will be the official T+S hangout now.

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#612

Merchant
Winnipeg, Canada
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2018, 06:26 PM by Ryan @ Tallow + Steel.)
(06-14-2018, 04:17 PM)struttura.originaria Wrote: Kyoto set for me, even if I'm not a fan of T+S toners.
Sicily and Madagascar seem to be very boring for my nose/taste.


I hear you - but we wanted something to appeal to all those boring people out there who find our scents too unique/polarizing. I kid of course - no entrepreneur likes to see customers dissatisfied with a product. It's the reason we released our formula composition. I feel like the more information a customer has, the more informed their decision can be - but unfortunately this sentiment isn't always being shared by other artisans these days. Now sure, some people don't like our style, but I'm thankful that wetshaving has such an active second hand market, so usually a customer won't be out too much money if they don't enjoy the product. (My counter argument to why we don't offer samples?)

Regarding the scents of Sicily and Madagascar - you may still be surprised. Sicily is one that should be enjoyed by pretty much everyone, but there is always the T+S style present. Madagascar is fairly floral but unique in that the majority of the scent is ylang ylang which is not used much in wetshaving, and is not the feature in any other products I can think of. Very underused IMO. The vanilla we use is the real deal bourbon vanilla from Madagascar - probably the best vanilla in the world. If anyone has ever smelled vanilla from Madagascar, (I can't stop smelling it) the scent of it is completely wild. It's such a warm, rich, earthy vanilla - it actually smells anamalic to me.. in the same way the beaver castors I have here smell. (No spoilers.. but they are aging nicely)

So long story short - we wanted to round out our line with something a little more approachable, but still our style. Personally, I get bored with easy, approachable scents.. you aren't wearing it all day, the scent is mostly just there for your shave, so I want something that is going to make me say, "now that was fucking cool." However, I understand why many people prefer easier, more pleasant scents. We are unique in that many artisans rely on their company to pay the bills, so they may not be financially able to take risks like we do. If people don't like their product, it could impact their wellbeing - and nobody wants that. The fact that we are able to release such unique products (West Coast IPA anyone?) where we want to give the customer a wild olfactory experience, knowing that the product may not sell well, is an asset for us. The fact that we can focus on experience rather than revenue is what keeps me going.

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#613
There is a movement for most soap makers to add edt's to their offerings.

Have you thought about going that route or partnering with a scent house?



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#614

Member
Italy
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2018, 06:57 PM by struttura.originaria.)
(06-14-2018, 06:17 PM)Ryan @ Tallow + Steel Wrote:
(06-14-2018, 04:17 PM)struttura.originaria Wrote: Kyoto set for me, even if I'm not a fan of T+S toners.
Sicily and Madagascar seem to be very boring for my nose/taste.


I hear you - but we wanted something to appeal to all those boring people out there who find our scents too unique/polarizing. I kid of course - no entrepreneur likes to see customers dissatisfied with a product. It's the reason we released our formula composition. I feel like the more information a customer has, the more informed their decision can be - but unfortunately this sentiment isn't always being shared by other artisans these days. Now sure, some people don't like our style, but I'm thankful that wetshaving has such an active second hand market, so usually a customer won't be out too much money if they don't enjoy the product. (My counter argument to why we don't offer samples?)

Regarding the scents of Sicily and Madagascar - you may still be surprised. Sicily is one that should be enjoyed by pretty much everyone, but there is always the T+S style present. Madagascar is fairly floral but unique in that the majority of the scent is ylang ylang which is not used much in wetshaving, and is not the feature in any other products I can think of. Very underused IMO. The vanilla we use is the real deal bourbon vanilla from Madagascar - probably the best vanilla in the world. If anyone has ever smelled vanilla from Madagascar, (I can't stop smelling it) the scent of it is completely wild. It's such a warm, rich, earthy vanilla - it actually smells anamalic to me.. in the same way the beaver castors I have here smell. (No spoilers.. but they are aging nicely)

So long story short - we wanted to round out our line with something a little more approachable, but still our style. Personally, I get bored with easy, approachable scents.. you aren't wearing it all day, the scent is mostly just there for your shave, so I want something that is going to make me say, "now that was fucking cool." However, I understand why many people prefer easier, more pleasant scents. We are unique in that many artisans rely on their company to pay the bills, so they may not be financially able to take risks like we do. If people don't like their product, it could impact their wellbeing - and nobody wants that. The fact that we are able to release such unique products (West Coast IPA anyone?) where we want to give the customer a wild olfactory experience, knowing that the product may not sell well, is an asset for us. The fact that we can focus on experience rather than revenue is what keeps me going.

Thanks, Ryan. Very appreciated. Many wetshavers should know the things you wrote.
I'm sorry, but I'm a fan of 'strange' and 'dark' scents. I said 'boring' just because I'm not able to get too fresh, too citrusy notes - my nose refuses them. Never understood those notes. Problem is mine. I also like florals, but florals with another vein (your ambery Himalaya AS is great). Your point on vanilla is nice. Never said to not change my mind Wink I love animalic scents. I have a passion for perfumes, so I don't like simple and easy scents Wink
Congrats for your art/work.
EDIT: 'in the same way the beaver castors I have here smell. (No spoilers.. but they are aging nicely)'.
WOW Can't wait for that one Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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with a passion for perfumes and coffee, coming from Italy 
#615
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2018, 09:01 PM by frenchy.)
(06-14-2018, 06:17 PM)Ryan @ Tallow + Steel Wrote: I hear you - but we wanted something to appeal to all those boring people out there who find our scents too unique/polarizing. I kid of course - no entrepreneur likes to see customers dissatisfied with a product. It's the reason we released our formula composition. I feel like the more information a customer has, the more informed their decision can be - but unfortunately this sentiment isn't always being shared by other artisans these days. Now sure, some people don't like our style, but I'm thankful that wetshaving has such an active second hand market, so usually a customer won't be out too much money if they don't enjoy the product. (My counter argument to why we don't offer samples?)

Regarding the scents of Sicily and Madagascar - you may still be surprised. Sicily is one that should be enjoyed by pretty much everyone, but there is always the T+S style present. Madagascar is fairly floral but unique in that the majority of the scent is ylang ylang which is not used much in wetshaving, and is not the feature in any other products I can think of.  Very underused IMO. The vanilla we use is the real deal bourbon vanilla from Madagascar - probably the best vanilla in the world. If anyone has ever smelled vanilla from Madagascar, (I can't stop smelling it) the scent of it is completely wild. It's such a warm, rich, earthy vanilla - it actually smells anamalic to me.. in the same way the beaver castors I have here smell. (No spoilers.. but they are aging nicely)

So long story short - we wanted to round out our line with something a little more approachable, but still our style. Personally, I get bored with easy, approachable scents.. you aren't wearing it all day, the scent is mostly just there for your shave, so I want something that is going to make me say, "now that was fucking cool."  However, I understand why many people prefer easier, more pleasant scents. We are unique in that many artisans rely on their company to pay the bills, so they may not be financially able to take risks like we do. If people don't like their product, it could impact their wellbeing - and nobody wants that. The fact that we are able to release such unique products (West Coast IPA anyone?) where we want to give the customer a wild olfactory experience, knowing that the product may not sell well, is an asset for us. The fact that we can focus on experience rather than revenue is what keeps me going.

There’s nothing at all wrong with a very well-executed more simple, basic scent. I say make the best ones you can....

Signed........Boring and Proud of It!

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#616

Merchant
Winnipeg, Canada
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2018, 09:18 PM by Ryan @ Tallow + Steel.)
(06-14-2018, 06:24 PM)jaxstraww Wrote: There is a movement for most soap makers to add edt's to their offerings.

Have you thought about going that route or partnering with a scent house?

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I’m not sure. Our current scents will never work as EdT, so I don’t see it happening any time soon.
#617

Merchant
Winnipeg, Canada
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2018, 09:28 PM by Ryan @ Tallow + Steel.)
(06-14-2018, 08:57 PM)frenchy Wrote: There’s nothing at all wrong with a very well-executed more simple, basic scent. I say make the best ones you can....

Signed........Boring and Proud of It!

Nothing wrong with it at all! There needs to be those, as many prefer them. It’s just not the direction we went. I’m not opposed to someday releasing a single-essential-oil product for something different, but I definitely prefer the unusual.

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#618

Member
Italy
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2018, 10:08 PM by struttura.originaria.)
(06-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Ryan @ Tallow + Steel Wrote: I definitely prefer the unusual.
+1
Keep this way !

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#619
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2018, 10:01 PM by frenchy.)
(06-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Ryan @ Tallow + Steel Wrote: Nothing wrong with it at all! There needs to be those, as many prefer them. It’s just not the direction we went. I’m not opposed to someday releasing a single-essential-oil product for something different, but I definitely prefer the unusual.

There’s definitely room and demand for both under the T+S brand umbrella...Finely executed scents by you are finely executed scents..be they simple, single scent or complex...The number of poorly executed single scents out there is proof enough.
#620
Looking forward to the release, the only issue is it’s on a Friday so shipping won’t start till Monday! Tease!

Congrats Ryan on the new lineup! All these scents sound amazing! Really looking forward to picking up a few tomorrow!


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