sharing SOTD photos

Please do not send any of my stuff to any social medium.

I intensely dislike those privacy destroying media.

Mickey

An online forum is a social medium.

I understand his concern, he doesn't want them shared with outside forum social media.  I'd be the same if I posted SOTD, but I don't.

this site is crawled by search engine bots constantly.  anything posted on this site will be crawled and indexed where bots have access to read data.  this isn't some highly private site.

also, I don't have any easy way of knowing which photos belongs to what user, unless the photo is tagged with a user's name.

So you are just grabbing photo's from behind the scenes and not from the threads where the usernames are displayed?  

If any of my photos were ever used, I'd want at least recognition they came from me.  I'm guessing (not speaking for anyone else here), but think others may feel the same.

the 'grabbing' of photos is automated by a custom script a friend wrote for me - it scans the SOTD threads, pulls all of the photos that are posted, puts them inside a folder, then finally zips up.

On the advice of friends and relatives I joined Facebook about 9 years ago. They thought I might be lonely. I am not - never have been - too many interests & hobbies.
The day after I became a member I was flooded with emails - "Will you be my friend?"
I was shocked and appalled. What kind of tragically sad people would do such a thing?
Ever since then no matter what I have tried I have been unable to free myself from the grasp of Facebook.
I understand they have personal records of hundreds of millions of people. Why? What are their intentions? How do they use those private, personal records?
They have control over much of the internet media. If one is not a member of one or more social media, posting a comment is not possible on many of them.
So, like the labour unions, you must become a member or you are effectively silenced. No freedom of speech. No freedom of the press. No freedom of opinion.
Anything that smacks of social media with a very few (4) exceptions, of subjects in which I am not personally interested, I consign to spam.
Since approximately 2000 I have joined and resigned without problems and without rancour from a few sites. In several others I have retained my membership for years. Some for over ten years.
I have only rarely met any of the members in person but they are almost like family. None of them has asked to be my friend and I have never asked anyone.
True friendship does not need a starting gate.
Mickey

I don't really agree with that, Mickey Oberman. Facebook (insert X social media site here) is a fantastic & cheap way for friends and family to stay in touch with one another. I found some childhood friends through facebook that I haven't seen in 15+ years because they moved away and we lost contact, etc.. likewise, my Mom has 8 or 9 brothers and sisters and probably 30+ nieces and nephews in Texas - most of whom I've never met before. Facebook allows me to communicate and see what's going on with them.

I don't really agree with that, Mickey Oberman.  Facebook (insert X social media site here) is a fantastic & cheap way for friends and family to stay in touch with one another.   I found some childhood friends through facebook that I haven't seen in 15+ years because they moved away and we lost contact, etc..  likewise, my Mom has 8 or 9 brothers and sisters and probably 30+ nieces and nephews in Texas - most of whom I've never met before.  Facebook allows me to communicate and see what's going on with them.

Facebook definitely has a purpose, and a very good one. I found my son when he was 22 on Facebook. I hadn't seen him since he was 2, but through facebook, I was able to locate him, verify that it was, in fact, him, and send him a message to give him the opportunity to decide if he wanted to know me or not. That was 5 years ago, and we have a decent relationship now.

I also "found" both of my brothers after losing contact with 98% of my family about 20 years ago. The 2% that I am currently in contact with is through facebook almost exclusively.

I do understand the concerns of privacy but it's really quite simple: If you have an email account, any forum profile, share photos through email, participate in any form of online shopping or browsing, use any kind of Skype, google phone, or instant messaging service, or if you own and use a cellphone...your information is already out there. We lost that battle a long time ago, because nobody ever reads the license agreements that give these companies the right to collect our information for their use.

And if you choose not to accept that license agreement, you do not get to use their products or services. You can't even turn on a new computer without signing a license agreement that allows that manufacturer of both hardware and software to collect your private information that you are required to provide.

I understand the concerns, but at the end of the day, if you put a photo online, be it here or anywhere else, it will always and forever be accessible, no matter how many times it gets deleted from how many different servers. If you share a photo here, it ends up in google photos whether you want it to or not, whether andrewjs18 mines them or google does is really inconcsequential...

Heck, most websites have built in data-mines as these days, websites are nothing more than data servers constantly fetching and retrieving bits of information uploaded to the server at the user's request. They aren't static pages anymore...those days are long gone...

My humble $.02...

So, BadDad, 1984 is here; it just arrived a wee bit late. I hate that my "private" information is out there but in today's world there would be very little communication if we didn't "agree" to those licensing agreements.

It is messed up, but such is the world we live in. I can see both sides of the coin. Some of Mickey's points I can agree with, but BadDad made it clear that it's pretty much pointless to try and keep your information private anymore. But, FWIW I've never been on Facebook and probably never will be at this point.

It is messed up, but such is the world we live in. I can see both sides of the coin. Some of Mickey's points I can agree with, but BadDad made it clear that it's pretty much pointless to try and keep your information private anymore. But, FWIW I've never been on Facebook and probably never will be at this point.

That's not really what I said, or at least not what I meant to say. My intended implications were that you shouldn't put anything online unless you expect every person in the world to have access to it.

Security on most sites is pretty tight for shopping. Breaches happen, but the vendors are responsible, not the victims.

Sites like facebook tell you explicitly that you retain all ownership rights of your images, but they reserve the right to use those images in the promotion of the sight, and to allow those photos to be searched within the facebook databases.

flickr even gives you the option to allow commercial use of your images and to charge for it.

So we choose our level of participation.

Me...I'm an introvert by nature, so interacting through sites like this and the many social media outlets is easier for me than texting, chatting, and face-to-face encounters. I recognize the limitations of digital relationships, but I also recognize the enjoyment. I put low resolution images on the web so if they get "stolen", I haven't lost a print-quality image.

So, BadDad, 1984 is here; it just arrived a wee bit late. I hate that my "private" information is out there but in today's world there would be very little communication if we didn't "agree" to those licensing agreements.

Sadly, to a degree, yes...it's true. The communications technology industry has us all by the...hair on our chinny-chin-chins...

I see that I am in the minority and have learned that my privacy is no longer private.

But some of my arguments have been ignored.
Primarily the one about Facebook and the personal records it keeps. "I understand they have personal records of hundreds of millions of people. Why? What are their intentions? How do they use those private, personal records?"
and
"They have control over much of the internet media. If one is not a member of one or more social media, posting a comment is not possible on many of them.
So, like the labour unions, you must become a member or you are effectively silenced. No freedom of speech. No freedom of the press. No freedom of opinion."
and
Why will they not let me go?
"Ever since then no matter what I have tried I have been unable to free myself from the grasp of Facebook." Why?
and
"The day after I became a member I was flooded with emails - "Will you be my friend?"
I was shocked and appalled. What kind of tragically sad people would do such a thing?"

A number of years ago I found members of my father's family in England. whom I never knew existed, just by using the internet.
That spread to family members in Australia which bounced back here to Toronto and the US.
I was found by my very first girlfriend whom I had not seen for 64 years. A very pleasant surprise, indeed.
I contact relatives and old friends in Michigan and California and France and China and Israel and the Bahamas.
As well as new friends, members of the fora to which I am a member, all over the world.
All this without Facebook.

But I would not deny anyone who finds it useful their right to use it as Facebook denies me the right, and I know I am repeating myself, however, "They have control over much of the internet media. If one is not a member of one or more social media, posting a comment is not possible on many of them."
I do not believe that any entity should have that kind of control over millions of people who decline membership with it as well as the possibility of controlling, with the personal information it possesses, of millions of its members.

Perhaps we should return to shaving.

Mickey

I don't really agree with that, Mickey Oberman. Facebook (insert X social media site here) is a fantastic & cheap way for friends and family to stay in touch with one another. I found some childhood friends through facebook that I haven't seen in 15+ years because they moved away and we lost contact, etc.. likewise, my Mom has 8 or 9 brothers and sisters and probably 30+ nieces and nephews in Texas - most of whom I've never met before. Facebook allows me to communicate and see what's going on with them.