(This post was last modified: 08-06-2023, 08:57 PM by Stephanos1920.)
What I would love to see from Razorock is
stainless steel HOLLOW handles .
The concept is as "simple" as this :
The hollow handle will be consisting
of three parts : The top end ( threaded part
that attaches to the razor head ) ,the middle part
and the bottom end.
The top end should be machined from
solid 316L round stock and made in such
way to shrink-fit into the middle part.
The middle part is made of 12 to 13 mm
diameter 316L tubing,with a
wall thickness of 2.5 - 3 mm ,leaving a
7 mm dia. round hollow area .
Middle part can be machined and/or
knurled in order to achieve a gripping
surface for the operators hand.
Length can vary to achieve total
handle length on customer request or
of preset handle lengths
within the range between 75 to 95 mm.
Bottom part acts as a "counterweight"
to the combined weight of the razor head + handle top
part.It can be a "screw-on" ( M8x 1.25 ISO metric thread )
part ,available in different weights within the range of
5 to 15 grams .Thus,the operator can adjust
the counterweight of the razor handle ,to own
preference ,depending on style of shaving and
razor head / blade used .Less counterweight
moves the center of balance towards the razor head ,
while more counterweight moves the center of the
balance lower on the handle.
It should be made of solid round 316L stock
and can be hollowed out ,for making
the lower mass pieces .
Sets of three counterweights can be
offered ,for the operator to choose
and "trim" his choice .
For example : Standard cw set :5 gr , 10 gr ,15 gr .
Lightweight /Expert shaver cw set : 5 gr, 7 gr ,9 gr .
Heavy / Novice shaver cw set : 11 gr , 13 gr ,15 gr .
Personal opinion : A lot of R&D goes on
the designing and development of modern
CNC machined razor heads,while the handles
are mostly being treated as "aesthetically"
appealing parts and less as parts of functionality.
The razor head holds the blade .
The handle is the connecting link
between the razor head/blade and the
operator's hand.Beyond providing
adequate grip,it can also "color" the
agility ,efficiency and smoothness of
a razor. The handle's total weight and it's center
of balance are being the two main important
variables ,that can drastically alter the
shaving experience of any given DE razor.
There's a trend from certain razor manufactures
towards more slim and lightweight razor heads
( history repeats itself : from bulky
brass razor heads to slim ones and then again
to bulky ZAMAK/ss razor heads to slim
ss/titanium razor heads ).
Those lightweight razor heads are
a better match with hollow handles,
than solid ones ,as in combination with
the latter the razor's center of balance
moves away from the head ,towards the
middle of the handle, impacting the precision,
the efficiency and the smoothness of the
razor head.
stainless steel HOLLOW handles .
The concept is as "simple" as this :
The hollow handle will be consisting
of three parts : The top end ( threaded part
that attaches to the razor head ) ,the middle part
and the bottom end.
The top end should be machined from
solid 316L round stock and made in such
way to shrink-fit into the middle part.
The middle part is made of 12 to 13 mm
diameter 316L tubing,with a
wall thickness of 2.5 - 3 mm ,leaving a
7 mm dia. round hollow area .
Middle part can be machined and/or
knurled in order to achieve a gripping
surface for the operators hand.
Length can vary to achieve total
handle length on customer request or
of preset handle lengths
within the range between 75 to 95 mm.
Bottom part acts as a "counterweight"
to the combined weight of the razor head + handle top
part.It can be a "screw-on" ( M8x 1.25 ISO metric thread )
part ,available in different weights within the range of
5 to 15 grams .Thus,the operator can adjust
the counterweight of the razor handle ,to own
preference ,depending on style of shaving and
razor head / blade used .Less counterweight
moves the center of balance towards the razor head ,
while more counterweight moves the center of the
balance lower on the handle.
It should be made of solid round 316L stock
and can be hollowed out ,for making
the lower mass pieces .
Sets of three counterweights can be
offered ,for the operator to choose
and "trim" his choice .
For example : Standard cw set :5 gr , 10 gr ,15 gr .
Lightweight /Expert shaver cw set : 5 gr, 7 gr ,9 gr .
Heavy / Novice shaver cw set : 11 gr , 13 gr ,15 gr .
Personal opinion : A lot of R&D goes on
the designing and development of modern
CNC machined razor heads,while the handles
are mostly being treated as "aesthetically"
appealing parts and less as parts of functionality.
The razor head holds the blade .
The handle is the connecting link
between the razor head/blade and the
operator's hand.Beyond providing
adequate grip,it can also "color" the
agility ,efficiency and smoothness of
a razor. The handle's total weight and it's center
of balance are being the two main important
variables ,that can drastically alter the
shaving experience of any given DE razor.
There's a trend from certain razor manufactures
towards more slim and lightweight razor heads
( history repeats itself : from bulky
brass razor heads to slim ones and then again
to bulky ZAMAK/ss razor heads to slim
ss/titanium razor heads ).
Those lightweight razor heads are
a better match with hollow handles,
than solid ones ,as in combination with
the latter the razor's center of balance
moves away from the head ,towards the
middle of the handle, impacting the precision,
the efficiency and the smoothness of the
razor head.
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(This post was last modified: 08-07-2023, 07:33 PM by Stephanos1920.)
I have pretty large hands ...
Anything below 13 mm in diameter and
with less than 85 mm length ,it will
just "disappear" into my palm .
I do think that small sized ,solid handles
have their place .But for those with large hands
and lightweight razor heads,the large sized ,
hollow handles are probably the best solution .
Anything below 13 mm in diameter and
with less than 85 mm length ,it will
just "disappear" into my palm .
I do think that small sized ,solid handles
have their place .But for those with large hands
and lightweight razor heads,the large sized ,
hollow handles are probably the best solution .
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(This post was last modified: 08-07-2023, 07:56 PM by Stephanos1920.)
Thank you ,but myself I'm also a machinist.
Or at least used to be one .I used to make
my own handles and razor stands :
https://www.instagram.com/1920desafetyrazors/
But ,I do not anymore.
It will be a lie If I was to claim that
I do not miss machining .But unfortunately
I sold all of my machining equipment and tooling .
If by " on another forum " you mean the
famous kinder-garden "Babies & Babysitters" ,
thank you ,but I 'll pass.
Or at least used to be one .I used to make
my own handles and razor stands :
https://www.instagram.com/1920desafetyrazors/
But ,I do not anymore.
It will be a lie If I was to claim that
I do not miss machining .But unfortunately
I sold all of my machining equipment and tooling .
If by " on another forum " you mean the
famous kinder-garden "Babies & Babysitters" ,
thank you ,but I 'll pass.
I Need New Conspiracy Theories
Because All Old Ones Came True
Stephanos1920...LMAO! "Babies & Babysitters". That would be the one. I completely understand, I was thrown off the island for questioning their omnipotent authority.
b/r
RB
b/r
RB
(This post was last modified: 08-07-2023, 10:07 PM by Stephanos1920.)
Dear brother Rocket_Boy
I really disdain to continue the
discussion further about the "B&B" .
But since we 've created ourselves a little
topic derailment let us finish it here by
agreeing that the Damn Fine Shave forum
is indeed a cosy place to be and share
any thoughts ,opinions,concerns-or even fears-,
knowledge and wisdom ,as also personal
experiences and stories about shaving and more.
It's still an oasis of free-speech into the
vast and arid wastelands of " biased by funds "
cyber world.
A place where any concerns are not "spreading fears" .
Where a personal opinion is not " telling us what to do".
Where creative criticism is not " constantly arguing ".
Where moderation is not insulting to any member's intelligence.
And hopefully a place where any vendor's money have no
other power than paying the advertising and/or cyber shop fees.
I really disdain to continue the
discussion further about the "B&B" .
But since we 've created ourselves a little
topic derailment let us finish it here by
agreeing that the Damn Fine Shave forum
is indeed a cosy place to be and share
any thoughts ,opinions,concerns-or even fears-,
knowledge and wisdom ,as also personal
experiences and stories about shaving and more.
It's still an oasis of free-speech into the
vast and arid wastelands of " biased by funds "
cyber world.
A place where any concerns are not "spreading fears" .
Where a personal opinion is not " telling us what to do".
Where creative criticism is not " constantly arguing ".
Where moderation is not insulting to any member's intelligence.
And hopefully a place where any vendor's money have no
other power than paying the advertising and/or cyber shop fees.
I Need New Conspiracy Theories
Because All Old Ones Came True
(This post was last modified: 08-07-2023, 10:17 PM by TommyCarioca.)
For me, the shave delta between a Wolfman, Carbon, HNS, etc is indeterminate. . I put the GC 84 SB on a favorite handle and relish the results. It would be my recommendation [and the Merkur 34C] as the no brainer economic reach for razor choice. I have others that I love using, but the value on these RR razors is just unparalleled.
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(This post was last modified: 08-07-2023, 10:34 PM by Stephanos1920.)
You have to be a mathematician
or engineer of some sort .
Since english is not my mother language
I had to check what "indeterminate" means ...
Anyway .I couldn't agree more with
everything that you state.
May be a rather bold statement,
but humble me thinks that those
stainless razors from Razorock
did revived or further involved the
shaving procedure as being a personal
mental relaxing and physical refreshing
experience ( or should I say ritual ? )
for plenty of men ,young and older.
They surely do shave as most of the
so-called "high-end" razors do .
Or at least very-very close to ,
for a fraction of the price.
Shaving tools,as the maker honestly
states for 'em .
Nothing more,nothing less than that.
or engineer of some sort .
Since english is not my mother language
I had to check what "indeterminate" means ...
Anyway .I couldn't agree more with
everything that you state.
May be a rather bold statement,
but humble me thinks that those
stainless razors from Razorock
did revived or further involved the
shaving procedure as being a personal
mental relaxing and physical refreshing
experience ( or should I say ritual ? )
for plenty of men ,young and older.
They surely do shave as most of the
so-called "high-end" razors do .
Or at least very-very close to ,
for a fraction of the price.
Shaving tools,as the maker honestly
states for 'em .
Nothing more,nothing less than that.
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