#301

Mike Distress
New Jersey
(01-18-2024, 04:44 AM)Karveme Wrote: Oh my,thanks for the link..jaguars I have enough now for 5 years+ shaving everyday..but I spotted at least 6 blades on that site I want to try.

No problem. The free shipping is nice, but even their shipping rate isn’t outrageous. Some of their prices are actually better than others, and some aren’t. You just have to know what you’re buying.
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#302

Member
Chicago Suburbs
(01-18-2024, 02:08 AM)metal_shavings Wrote:
(01-17-2024, 10:01 PM)Karveme Wrote: The Rockwell from what I remember were pretty good,I found myself asking for the 100 pack $21.99 when restocking my aftershaves,they were out and only had the 10 packs,so got a 10 pack $2.99 and the 10 jaguars for $8.99 I’m glad i didn’t look at the $8.99 price or I would have passed.

Razor blade club has 100 Jaguar R1 blades made in Germany for $29.95 and 100 blades or more ship free.

https://www.razorbladesclub.com/razorblades/

Jaguar as a company is based  in Germany, but their blades are made in Egypt. I do not know if the information on the RBC site is just incorrect or if perhaps they have stocks of olcer blade that were made in Germany. Bolzano used to make their blades in Germany as well and they were poor quality. Now that they are being made in Egypt, they are quite good. Merkur used to make their blades in Germany and they were poor quality. Now they are being made in Czech Republic. Some things made in Germany are great, others not so much.
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(This post was last modified: 01-18-2024, 05:17 PM by Karveme.)
Hmmm been using the Elios blades for years that are or were made in Germany..good blades better sharper than any personnas I find,got a 11 pack in my last top of the chain order made in Egypt that replaced a lord tuck they were out of,well to make a long story short they are horrible and trashed them right away,didn’t bother with a second blade.edit: maybe they were the bolzanos I used to use?anyways if anyone claims the wilkinson sword blades are made in germany I know for a fact they aren’t..the worst blade ever made period..I used to use them all the time and they were always good.
#304

Mike Distress
New Jersey
(01-18-2024, 12:16 PM)RayClem Wrote:
(01-18-2024, 02:08 AM)metal_shavings Wrote:
(01-17-2024, 10:01 PM)Karveme Wrote: The Rockwell from what I remember were pretty good,I found myself asking for the 100 pack $21.99 when restocking my aftershaves,they were out and only had the 10 packs,so got a 10 pack $2.99 and the 10 jaguars for $8.99 I’m glad i didn’t look at the $8.99 price or I would have passed.

Razor blade club has 100 Jaguar R1 blades made in Germany for $29.95 and 100 blades or more ship free.

https://www.razorbladesclub.com/razorblades/

Jaguar as a company is based  in Germany, but their blades are made in Egypt. I do not know if the information on the RBC site is just incorrect or if perhaps they have stocks of olcer blade that were made in Germany. Bolzano used to make their blades in Germany as well and they were poor quality. Now that they are being made in Egypt, they are quite good. Merkur used to make their blades in Germany and they were poor quality. Now they are being made in Czech Republic. Some things made in Germany are great, others not so much.

I see what you're saying. They just list Germany as "Country". It doesn't specifically say whether they are made there or if the company is based there. I have also seen Personna Reds other places claiming to be be Israeli made, but I have always been hesitant to buy them. Mine were the German made.
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#305

Member
Chicago Suburbs
(This post was last modified: 01-31-2024, 04:00 PM by RayClem.)
Thursday Shave- Van der Hagen Ice Tempered

I was hoping that my supply of VDH blades was exhausted years ago, but alas, I found a few remaining blades. Since I had a poor experience with these blade when I tried them years ago, my expectations were low. I presume that the term "ice tempered" is a marketing slogan for some type of cryogenic hardening of the blade. Supercooling steel can make it harder for enhanced durability, but it done improperly can make the edge brittle such that it develops microchips. I purchased a straight razor that had cryogenically cooled steel. Despite hours of attempts at honing the blade, I never could get a decent shave from the razor. Either the blade was too dull to slice my beard or it developed microchips that caused irritation.

I have also tried Merkur blades in the past that, like the VDH blades, were also made in Germany and were marketed as "ice tempered". They seemed to be the same blade. I understand that Merkur blades are now made in Czech Republic, but the Van der Hagen blades are still being made in Germany and are still labeled as "ice tempered". Timor, which is part of the Giesen and Forsthoff group also makes "ice tempered" razor blades, but the Timor blades I evaluated early in this series did not indicate they were ice tempered.

I started the shave with the Polsilver blade from the previous shave in the razor. That blade still was less sharp than I like. After a few strokes, I replaced that blade with a fresh Van der Hagen blade. Unfortunately, the VDH blade was even less sharp than the Polsilver. I got minor tugging during the WTG pass. Normally, once the WTG pass reduces the beard density, I get very little blade resistance during the XTG and subsequent passes, but there was still significant blade resistance during the XTG pass and even some during the ATG pass. The blade did not seem to be getting sharper during the shave. Because the blade seemed to be doing a poor job at beard reduction, I terminated the shave after the 3rd pass. I skipped the clean-up pass with buffing strokes as I was afraid of potential irritation. I would rate the shave as socially acceptable, but it was neither close, nor comfortable and it was well below even a Damn Fine Shave, much less the near BBS shave I hope to achieve.

Based on the results of this shave, I am rating the blades at a sharpness of 2, which is even below the 2.5 rating assigned to Shark Super Chrome and Shark Super Stainless. At least with those two shark blades, there was little blade resistance on the XTG pass and I was able to do my usual 4 pass shave and achieve a DFS. The Van der Hagen ice tempered blade would not even achieve that level of shave. I rated the smoothness of the blade as 3, but since I did not complete my clean-up pass with buffing strokes, that is just a guess. Van der Hagen receives the dubious honor of being the worst blade I evaluated in the entire series. The devaluation spreadsheet has been updated.

To make matters worse, these blades are expensive. You can purchase 30 blade for $18 making them $60 per 100 blades. At that price, you can purchase AccuThrive Prep blades. While Van Der Hagen blades might be suitable for a new shaver with a fine beard, there are too many better blades at lower pricing available for me to recommend them.

I am still waiting the arrival of the Suneko Amorphous Diamond Coated blades. Whenever they arrive, I will used them for the next shave. Since I got such a lousy shave this morning, I will have enough of a beard by tomorrow that I could test them, tomorrow afternoon.

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#306
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2024, 06:50 PM by Karveme.)
Just shaved with a crunchy rockwell blade in the Karve c plate…well the blade was ok,not the sharpest,3 passes WTG,XTG,ATG ..usual buffing,tinniest bit of stubble on the neck and both sideburns..smooth blade,the blade is ok..ohh the tuck I bought was 5 blades for $2.99 glad I ran into them jaguars! If I noticed the high price I would have placed them back.,big mistake.Mr Clem’s gonna have nightmares bout cats chasing him in his dreams..lol….i’m crazy about them blades..getting a bit of razor rash now…very mild burn.
ohh them shark blades are really bad yup.
#307

Mike Distress
New Jersey
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2024, 07:44 PM by metal_shavings.)
(01-18-2024, 06:37 PM)KKarveme Wrote: Just shaved with a crunchy rockwell blade in the Karve c plate…well the blade was ok,not the sharpest,3 passes WTG,XTG,ATG ..usual buffing,tinniest bit of stubble on the neck and both sideburns..smooth blade,the blade is ok..ohh the tuck I bought was 5 blades for $2.99 glad I ran into them jaguars! If I noticed the high price I would have placed them back.,big mistake.Mr Clem’s gonna have nightmares bout cats chasing him in his dreams..lol….i’m crazy about them blades..getting a bit of razor rash now…very mild burn.
ohh them shark blades are really bad yup.

The Razor Company just got them in. They specify Made In Germany. RayClemhey also have Filoso 5 packs for $1.79. I have wanted to try those.

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#308

Member
Chicago Suburbs
(01-18-2024, 06:37 PM)Karveme Wrote: Just shaved with a crunchy rockwell blade in the Karve c plate…well the blade was ok,not the sharpest,3 passes WTG,XTG,ATG ..usual buffing,tinniest bit of stubble on the neck and both sideburns..smooth blade,the blade is ok..ohh the tuck I bought was 5 blades for $2.99 glad I ran into them jaguars! If I noticed the high price I would have placed them back.,big mistake.Mr Clem’s gonna have nightmares bout cats chasing him in his dreams..lol….i’m crazy about them blades..getting a bit of razor rash now…very mild burn.
ohh them shark blades are really bad yup.

Your post is somewhat confusing due to mentions of Rockwell, Jaguar and Shark. I think you are saying that the razor rash and mild burn was from the Rockwell blades. That is what I expected from what I have read about those blades.
#309

Member
Chicago Suburbs
metal_shavings

I did see that The Razor Company advertises the Jaguar blades as being made in Germany, but question the accuracy. The blades I tested specifically stated on the tucks that they were made in Egypt.

As far as the Filoso blades, they are advertised as blades for use by barbers to trim around the edges of beards and hairlines, not necessarily for face shaving. I am sure they can be used for faces, but I have not been able to find many reviews. They say they are Swedish steel, but no one seems to know where they are made. Many Chinese blades say they are made of Swedish steel, but I do not know if it is Sandvik steel or whether it is a Chinese made steel with similar composition. If I place an order with TRC for other shaving supplies, I might include a tuck of Filoso, but I do not need another 100 blades. If you purchase some, please post your review.
#310

Mike Distress
New Jersey
(01-19-2024, 12:14 AM)RayClem Wrote: metal_shavings

I did see that The Razor Company advertises the Jaguar blades as being made in Germany, but question the accuracy. The blades I tested specifically stated on the tucks that they were made in Egypt.

As far as the Filoso blades, they are advertised as blades for use by barbers to trim around the edges of beards and hairlines, not necessarily for face shaving. I am sure they can be used for faces, but I have not been able to find many reviews. They say they are Swedish steel, but no one seems to know where they are made. Many Chinese blades say they are made of Swedish steel, but I do not know if it is Sandvik steel or whether it is a Chinese made steel with similar composition. If I place an order with TRC for other shaving supplies, I might include a tuck of Filoso, but I do not need another 100 blades. If you purchase some, please post your review.

Yes, I don't know the accuracy of the origin. When I ordered my Personna Reds from them, they were listed as German, but I believe they hadn't been Israeli made for a while at that point. I saw the Filoso blades somewhere, then on Amazon. Then they went away on Amazon. I don't remember why they had caught my interest.
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