PAA General Thoughts?

Here's just one example of why I don't buy PAA products anymore. Apparently, someone is upset over another artisan releasing a vastly superior aftershave for less money - and felt the need to put this dig out there today:

Here's just one example of why I don't buy PAA products anymore. Apparently, someone is upset over another artisan releasing a vastly superior aftershave for less money - and felt the need to put this dig out there today:

They're the same price though, right? I assume you're referring to Barrister's Reserve?

CORRECTION: PAA Sin costs less than B&M Reserve

They're the same price though, right? I assume you're referring to Barrister's Reserve?

Same price as most PAA aftershaves, but only BR includes free shipping without a minimum order.

They're the same price though, right? I assume you're referring to Barrister's Reserve?

Same price as most PAA aftershaves, but only BR includes free shipping without a minimum order.

True dat, I always forget about the shipping. And I'm sure the BR will be a superior product. I like PAA aftershaves, but the prices are a little steep IMO. They should be down around $15-$17 at the most.

You see, every time I feel like I'm going to take the PAA plunge, they come out with some silly stuff that turns me off. Oh well, lol.....

True dat, I always forget about the shipping. And I'm sure the BR will be a superior product. I like PAA aftershaves, but the prices are a little steep IMO. They should be down around $15-$17 at the most.

They were okay at $14.95-18.95 but then the price crept up to $19.95+ - most are now $24.95 and there's even a couple at $29.95.  Which is crazy, if you ask me.  Let's compare the ingredients:

PAA (Sin):
Denatured Alcohol, Purified Water, Hedione, Liquid Silk, Carrot Seed Extract, Aloe Vera Juice, Alum, Glycerin

BR (Classic):
Witch Hazel Water (Hamamelis Virginiana), SD Alcohol 40-B (Alcohol Denatured), Water (Aqua), Organic Licorice Root Extract (Glycyrrhiza Glabra), Glycerin, Taurine, Phenoxyethanol, Chlorella (Chlorella Vulgaris)/White Lupin Protein Ferment (Lupinus Albus), Eleuthero Root Extract (Acanthopanax Senticosus), Organic Alcohol, Fragrance, Salicylic Acid, Allantoin, Organic Aloe Leaf Extract (Aloe Barbadensis), German Chamomile Flower Extract (Matricaria Recutita), Provitamin B5 (Panthenol), Sodium Lactate, Benzoic Acid, Benzyl Salicylate, Linalool, D-Limonene, Citronellol, Geraniol, Coumarin, Cinnamic Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Hydroxycitronellal, Eugenol, Methyl 2-Octynoate, Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde, Evernia prunastri (Oakmoss) Extract, Citral

BR (Cool):
Witch Hazel Water (Hamamelis Virginiana), SD Alcohol 40-B (Alcohol Denatured), Water (Aqua), Organic Licorice Root Extract (Glycyrrhiza Glabra), Glycerin, Taurine, Phenoxyethanol, Chlorella (Chlorella Vulgaris)/White Lupin Protein Ferment (Lupinus Albus), Eleuthero Root Extract (Acanthopanax Senticosus), Organic Alcohol, Fragrance, Salicylic Acid, Allantoin, Organic Aloe Leaf Extract (Aloe Barbadensis), German Chamomile Flower Extract (Matricaria Recutita), Provitamin B5 (Panthenol), Menthol, Neem Flower Extract (Melia Azadirachta), Neem Leaf Extract (Melia Azadirachta), Amino Esters-1, Ivy Gourd Fruit Extract (Coccinia Indica), Eggplant Fruit Extract (Solanum Melongena), Aloe Flower Extract (Aloe Barbadensis), Henna Extract (Lawsonia Inermis), Holy Basil Leaf Extract (Ocimum Sanctum), Turmeric Root Extract (Curcuma Longa), Pearl Powder, Sodium Lactate, Benzoic Acid, Linalool, Butyl Phenyl Methyl Propional (Lilial)(Rep2-), Methyl Ionone Gamma; Alpha-Iso-Methylionone, D-Limonene, Benzyl Salicylate, Coumarin, Citral, IsoEugenol, Cinnamic Alcohol (Cinnamyl Alcohol), Geraniol, Eugenol, Evernia prunastri (Oakmoss) Extract, Citronellol, Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde, Benzyl Benzoate

BR (Spice):
Witch Hazel Water (Hamamelis Virginiana), SD Alcohol 40-B (Alcohol Denatured), Water (Aqua), Organic Licorice Root Extract (Glycyrrhiza Glabra), Glycerin, Taurine, Phenoxyethanol, Chlorella (Chlorella Vulgaris)/White Lupin Protein Ferment (Lupinus Albus), Eleuthero Root Extract (Acanthopanax Senticosus), Organic Alcohol, Fragrance, Salicylic Acid, Allantoin, Organic Aloe Leaf Extract (Aloe Barbadensis), German Chamomile Flower Extract (Matricaria Recutita), Provitamin B5 (Panthenol), Sodium Lactate, Neem Leaf (Melia azadirachta), Amino Esters-1, Ivy Gourd (Coccinia indica) Leaf Extract, Eggplant (Solanum melongena) Fruit Extract, Aloe (Aloe barbadensis) Flower Extract, Holy Basil (Ocimum sanctum) Leaf Extract, Turmeric (Curcuma longa) Root Extract, Red Seaweed (Corallina officinalis) Extract, Benzoic Acid, Citral, Oakmoss (Evernia prunastri) Extracts, Cinnamic Aldehyde (Cinnamal), Benzyl Benzoate, Isoeugenol, Cinnamic Alcohol (Cinnamyl Alcohol), Geraniol, Citronellol, Methyl Ionone Gamma; Alpha-Iso-Methylionone, Hexyl Cinammic Aldehyde, Eugenol, Coumarin, D-Limonene, Linalool

$25 for a small 120ml or 150ml AS from an Aristan is a bit high if you ask me, as a few have already pointed out too. Then there is the public forum jabs at other makers, personal shots at members or digs at specific forums.

On one hand it's nice to see some of these guys interacting, but sometimes they need to just shut up, stay out of it and sell their stuff.

I have a few screen shots from well praised artisans that you'd be surprised to see. They post, it stirs up crap, then they delete it.

I don't have any of the PAA AS so can't comment on that but I have always observed what at least seems a mutual respect between Will and Smythe.

Isn't the screen cap a tongue and cheek reference to the fact that Sin [Spanish=without] is unscented and a nod to the fact that B&M doesn't offer the same? May be completely mistaken of course.

Maybe it's just me, and maybe it's because I don't pay enough attention(which is a good thing IMO, and I won't change that) but I don't see how the release of an unscented splash is a dig, nor do I see whom it is meant to be a dig towards...

Like I said, I fully accept that I don't "get it" through my own lack of effort, but it seems that a "dig" would need to be understood in order to really be a dig. Otherwise it is just an "inside joke"...

I don't have any of the PAA AS so can't comment on that but I have always observed what at least seems a mutual respect between Will and Smythe.

Isn't the screen cap a tongue and cheek reference to the fact that Sin [Spanish=without] is unscented and a nod to the fact that B&M doesn't offer the same? May be completely mistaken of course.

No, it's a direct jab at Will... You'll note that on the Barrister's Reserve site, it says "The World's Most Advanced Aftershave." And yesterday afternoon when the site went live, Smythe was quick with, "Ahhh the Most Advanced aftershave! Love it." This is just Part Deux.

As for "...that doesn't stink!" - it can be taken one of two ways. One, that Sin lacks a scent (thereby suggesting other PAA aftershaves stink) or...