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I've also been curious how successful these soap makers are and if they make a good living, I hope so.

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(08-13-2017, 10:09 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: the only people who could possibly answer those questions are the creators and stores that sell them.

for artisan soap, I'd have to say that B&M has to be near the top...

I agree, nobody can actually answer that question for any soap or cream except those who sell it. And, because there are so many products and a lot of sellers who do not all carry the same products it make the answers to your question impossible.

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Just a few weeks ago I was looking for something and came upon an interview mantic59 did with Brad Maggard during the 2017 meetup. I then looked at the list and he had the 2016 interview as well. I did not go back and watch it before posting this but in the 2016 interview I believe he said B&M was the biggest seller. He then said that Stirling had been brought aboard and they were doing quite well, maybe number 2. Again this was over a year ago and it's one seller and all that. I know they don't carry PAA and I thought they used to carry Razorock but I don't see it on their website anymore.

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(08-14-2017, 06:54 AM)zaclikestoshave Wrote:
(08-14-2017, 05:17 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: Nobody would know the answer to that question. Below are the artisans I suspect are among the top sellers, but in no particular order.

Stirling
Barrister and Mann
PAA/Crown King
Soap Commander
Razo Rock / Italian Barber

While I am sure Razorock sells a lot, they do not physically make their own product vs the other 4 you mentioned who make and sell their own product.

Now the funny thing is that each of the brands you mentioned are known to have a couple of people behind each company. I know a couple of them have a staff beyond the makers themselves. But in order to be respectful and keep what I was told private, I would prefer to refrain from saying who I know has employees to help them with the increased scale of the business.

Correct on RR/IB.

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Arkansas
We sell enough to have a handful of employees who help with shipping and wrapping/ labelling soap. Mandy and I make every product (save the hardware) ourselves though. We are considering either hiring someone to help with bath soap, or possibly even having it made by someone who can triple mill the soap (provided they can make it of the same quality).

I would assume we are at least in the top 5 in sales as far as artisan soap makers go, based on conversations with others in the industry. That said, I don't think anyone is getting wealthy doing this yet. If we didn't live in an area with low cost of living, we'd either go out of business or significantly raise prices. Mandy and I just really love doing this (most days). I still hold hope that this will continue to grow and maybe we'll be financially stable, or maybe even considered semi-wealthy one day. There are still millions and millions of men and women who don't even know what wetshaving is, much less have ever heard of Stirling Soap.

For now we work long hours for less than we were making previously (I as a warrant officer in the Army and her as an IT employee for a government contractor). We don't want for much, though, and we're happy with our quality of life. We'll keep doing this as long as those two conditions are met.

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(08-20-2017, 01:38 AM)ezlovan Wrote: We sell enough to have a handful of employees who help with shipping and wrapping/ labelling soap.  Mandy and I make every product (save the hardware) ourselves though.  We are considering either hiring someone to help with bath soap,  or possibly even having it made by someone who can triple mill the soap (provided they can make it of the same quality).

 I would assume we are at least in the top 5 in sales as far as artisan soap makers go, based on conversations with others in the industry.  That said, I don't think anyone is getting wealthy doing this yet.   If we didn't live in an area with low cost of living,  we'd either go out of business or significantly raise prices.  Mandy and I just really love doing this (most days). I still hold hope that this will continue to grow and maybe we'll be financially stable,  or maybe even considered semi-wealthy one day.  There are still  millions and millions of men and women who don't even know what wetshaving is,  much less have ever heard of Stirling Soap.

 For now we work long hours for less than we were making previously (I as a warrant officer in the Army and her as an IT employee for a government contractor). We don't want for much, though,  and we're happy with our quality of life.  We'll keep doing this as long as those two conditions are met.


Thanks for taking time to comment on this thread, Rod. I enjoyed reading this and hearing about the production from your side. I was thinking that Stirling would be in the upper tier of popularity, and rightly so.

I'd love if other artisans could comment in this thread - like Will with B&M or Chris with Catie's Bubbles.

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(08-20-2017, 01:38 AM)ezlovan Wrote: We sell enough to have a handful of employees who help with shipping and wrapping/ labelling soap. Mandy and I make every product (save the hardware) ourselves though. We are considering either hiring someone to help with bath soap, or possibly even having it made by someone who can triple mill the soap (provided they can make it of the same quality).

I would assume we are at least in the top 5 in sales as far as artisan soap makers go, based on conversations with others in the industry. That said, I don't think anyone is getting wealthy doing this yet. If we didn't live in an area with low cost of living, we'd either go out of business or significantly raise prices. Mandy and I just really love doing this (most days). I still hold hope that this will continue to grow and maybe we'll be financially stable, or maybe even considered semi-wealthy one day. There are still millions and millions of men and women who don't even know what wetshaving is, much less have ever heard of Stirling Soap.

For now we work long hours for less than we were making previously (I as a warrant officer in the Army and her as an IT employee for a government contractor). We don't want for much, though, and we're happy with our quality of life. We'll keep doing this as long as those two conditions are met.

Well, I for one, hope you continue to grow and flourish because I don't want you guys to ever stop doing what you're doing! You make fantastic products and provide the best customer service anyone could ask for. Thanks for that!

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(This post was last modified: 08-20-2017, 04:49 AM by Freddy.)
I am a big fan of Stirling products from the bath and shaving soaps to the pre-shave oil and aftershave balm.  The brushes you carry are fantastic and, as has already been mentioned, your service is some of the best out there.  May things just get better and better for Stirling Soap Co. Happy2

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(08-20-2017, 03:54 AM)wyze0ne Wrote:
(08-20-2017, 01:38 AM)ezlovan Wrote: We sell enough to have a handful of employees who help with shipping and wrapping/ labelling soap.  Mandy and I make every product (save the hardware) ourselves though.  We are considering either hiring someone to help with bath soap,  or possibly even having it made by someone who can triple mill the soap (provided they can make it of the same quality).

 I would assume we are at least in the top 5 in sales as far as artisan soap makers go, based on conversations with others in the industry.  That said, I don't think anyone is getting wealthy doing this yet.   If we didn't live in an area with low cost of living,  we'd either go out of business or significantly raise prices.  Mandy and I just really love doing this (most days). I still hold hope that this will continue to grow and maybe we'll be financially stable,  or maybe even considered semi-wealthy one day.  There are still  millions and millions of men and women who don't even know what wetshaving is,  much less have ever heard of Stirling Soap.

 For now we work long hours for less than we were making previously (I as a warrant officer in the Army and her as an IT employee for a government contractor). We don't want for much, though,  and we're happy with our quality of life.  We'll keep doing this as long as those two conditions are met.

Well, I for one, hope you continue to grow and flourish because I don't want you guys to ever stop doing what you're doing! You make fantastic products and provide the best customer service anyone could ask for. Thanks for that!

(08-20-2017, 04:37 AM)Freddy Wrote: I am a big fan of Stirling products from the bath and shaving soaps to the pre-shave oil and aftershave balm.  The brushes you carry are fantastic and, as has already been mentioned, your service is some of the best out there.  May things just get better and better for Stirling Soap Co. Happy2

Hear hear.

Keep up the great work Rod & Mandy. Much respect  Happy2

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If you haven't tried Jeeves of Hudson Street you're missing out one of the best soaps around underrated plus he's a veteran

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