Manufacturing process

Just some thoughts of my own... And I am far from an expert on machining razors (or machining anything for that matter)... But, if what James does was so easy, he wouldn't be the only one doing it. There's a reason why many razor makers refuse to offer high polished razors (especially regularly)... Its because it's time consuming, tedious, and hell on your hands! I've heard quite a few machinists and razor makers criticize James' work/production until they started doing it themselves and said, "I don't know how he does it". It's not as easy as it seems or else his razors wouldn't be in as high of demand, as everyone would be capable of producing high polished razors, which is not the case. Criticize the business model all you want (I certainly have) but you can't argue with the finished product and what he does to produce it (regardless if it's assisted by machines).

The razor production is not only assisted by the CNC but produced completely by the CNC, you are correct the polishing does take time no doubt and James probably goes back and forth in his shop from the CNC back to the buffing table, rinse and repeat.

What you mean you have heard machinist saying they don't know how he does it because they tried it and they cant achieve those results? or maybe you have heard this from razor manufacturer who is in contract with machinist shop that is producing their razors? If that's the case of course they will say they don't know how James does it, because machine shop charges $80 per hour for polishing... Its doable and any experienced machinist can do it, its just time consuming and at hourly rate of $80, well you know the rest....

I agree that "it's doable and any experienced machinist can do it" (polishing that is) but some have flat out said, I'm not taking the time and putting my hands through it.

Just some thoughts of my own... And I am far from an expert on machining razors (or machining anything for that matter)... But, if what James does was so easy, he wouldn't be the only one doing it. There's a reason why many razor makers refuse to offer high polished razors (especially regularly)... Its because it's time consuming, tedious, and hell on your hands! I've heard quite a few machinists and razor makers criticize James' work/production until they started doing it themselves and said, "I don't know how he does it". It's not as easy as it seems or else his razors wouldn't be in as high of demand, as everyone would be capable of producing high polished razors, which is not the case. Criticize the business model all you want (I certainly have) but you can't argue with the finished product and what he does to produce it (regardless if it's assisted by machines).

The razor production is not only assisted by the CNC but produced completely by the CNC, you are correct the polishing does take time no doubt and James probably goes back and forth in his shop from the CNC back to the buffing table, rinse and repeat.

What you mean you have heard machinist saying they don't know how he does it because they tried it and they cant achieve those results? or maybe you have heard this from razor manufacturer who is in contract with machinist shop that is producing their razors? If that's the case of course they will say they don't know how James does it, because machine shop charges $80 per hour for polishing... Its doable and any experienced machinist can do it, its just time consuming and at hourly rate of $80, well you know the rest....

I agree that "it's doable and any experienced machinist can do it" (polishing that is) but some have flat out said, I'm not taking the time and putting my hands through it.

and that's why you have 2 types of workers: committed and non committed or 3 kinds of workers: lazy, mediocre, hard workers.

In no doubt James is a hard worker and he is committed to his craft and I'm sure is worth it for him. It does takes enjoying you craft, enjoying getting better at it and slowly increasing your speed over time without messing up with quality. Money is not everything but some times the amount of money is the pushing power in those critical moments when you decide that you had enough and call it a day or you keep on going few more hours

I doubt James is polishing up 50-70 razors a week, that would be pure hell on your hands.

If there is a demand and money are worth it which they are he can, naturally the man does takes breaks. He can afford to take a whole month off from his work and rest.

If I only show you how my hands look like along with the MRI scans from my back and neck, those are the results of 20 years heavy labor + artistry. The skin on my hands is so crude that once a week I have to use GEM PTFE blade to cut away the build up of dead skin.

I don’t know James and I certainly don’t speak for him but from what I’ve heard about him from people who do know him, he sounds like a simple guy. If James wanted to pump out as many razors as he can, there’s other options for him if that’s truly what he wants to do. Demand for Wolfman Razors has been there for a long time now and he just raised the prices despite not wanting to in the past, these aren’t the actions of a man that’s looking to milk it.

I have no clue why you keep bringing up your work life history here?

*LOOT dons his miniskirt and grabs his pompoms*

I don't care what his process is nor his business model. He is producing a product, by himself, that no other human on the planet chooses to replicate. That is fact.

He has positioned himself, throughout his career, to be beholden to no man. He gets up every day and writes his own check. That is fact.

He has a skill set that few posses. He lives his life the way we all wish we could.

And to further my point about him STILL under valuing his work, a BRUSHED WR1 sold last night for $1000.

He has created the market. Anyone with comparable skill could replicate it. There are reasons no does. Decide for yourself what they are.

It is comical how polarizing a single man can be. Fanboy or hater, there sure are a lot of both.

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I doubt James is polishing up 50-70 razors a week, that would be pure hell on your hands.

If there is a demand and money are worth it which they are he can, naturally the man does takes breaks. He can afford to take a whole month off from his work and rest.

If I only show you how my hands look like along with the MRI scans from my back and neck, those are the results of 20 years heavy labor + artistry. The skin on my hands is so crude that once a week I have to use GEM PTFE blade to cut away the build up of dead skin.

I don’t know James and I certainly don’t speak for him but from what I’ve heard about him from people who do know him, he sounds like a simple guy. If James wanted to pump out as many razors as he can, there’s other options for him if that’s truly what he wants to do. Demand for Wolfman Razors has been there for a long time now and he just raised the prices despite not wanting to in the past, these aren’t the actions of a man that’s looking to milk it.

I have no clue why you keep bringing up your work life history here?

Because discussion was that James is an artist which OP assumed manually mills his razors AKA razor milled from scratch by his hands and that is not the truth, the CNC mills his razor and he is polishing them.

Me bringing my work is an example of manually done work from scratch to finish. If I had a robot doing all the work and I just come in to grout and clean up then I would of not present my work as an example of product done from scratch, I would how ever still point out that 90% of the work is done by the CNC because that is the truth.

If there is a demand and money are worth it which they are he can, naturally the man does takes breaks. He can afford to take a whole month off from his work and rest.

If I only show you how my hands look like along with the MRI scans from my back and neck, those are the results of 20 years heavy labor + artistry. The skin on my hands is so crude that once a week I have to use GEM PTFE blade to cut away the build up of dead skin.

I don’t know James and I certainly don’t speak for him but from what I’ve heard about him from people who do know him, he sounds like a simple guy. If James wanted to pump out as many razors as he can, there’s other options for him if that’s truly what he wants to do. Demand for Wolfman Razors has been there for a long time now and he just raised the prices despite not wanting to in the past, these aren’t the actions of a man that’s looking to milk it.

I have no clue why you keep bringing up your work life history here?

Because discussion was that James is an artist which OP assumed manually mills his razors AKA razor milled from scratch by his hands and that is not the truth, the CNC mills his razor and he is polishing them.

Me bringing my work is an example of manually done work from scratch to finish. If I had a robot doing all the work and I just come in to grout and clean up then I would of not present my work as an example of product done from scratch, I would how ever still point out that 90% of the work is done by the CNC because that is the truth.

I think you bring up a valid point here between handmade and machined but who claims wolfman is handmade? Surely not James. His site states:

“Wolfman Razors are designed and machined in a small shop by a journeyman machinist with 17 years machining experience. From raw material to finished razors, everything is done on site by one man in Alberta, Canada.”

He then goes on to say how everything is hand finished and the process that involves.



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*LOOT dons his miniskirt and grabs his pompoms*

I don't care what his process is nor his business model. He is producing a product, by himself, that no other human on the planet chooses to replicate. That is fact.

He has positioned himself, throughout his career, to be beholden to no man. He gets up every day and writes his own check. That is fact.

He has a skill set that few posses. He lives his life the way we all wish we could.

And to further my point about him STILL under valuing his work, a BRUSHED WR1 sold last night for $1000.

He has created the market. Anyone with comparable skill could replicate it. There are reasons no does. Decide for yourself what they are.

It is comical how polarizing a single man can be. Fanboy or hater, there sure are a lot of both.

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Machinist skill that few poses,what are you talking about dude?

Have you seen Stork handles who is copying his handles with better craftsmanship? ( lol I don't think copying them is nice thing to do, but he surpasses Wolfman quality and changes the design a bit in order not to be a dead on exact copy)

https://www.ebay.com/sch/stork_razors/m....7675.l2562

Do you know that Wolfman tolerances are not in the same ball park as the $130 Wunderbar slant?

No one is undervaluing his work, do any of you Wolfman fanboys understand if there was no CNC machine in existence Wolfman razors would not exist? neither would any of the other machined razors on the market, you all should be cheering for the tech that's available to produce the razor on its own...

Before razorock started pumping all his new razor designs in high numbers, tight tolerances and affordable prices he openly said now he and his machinist can finally get serious with production because " they bought brand new high end CNC machine" See even a designer and machinist know that the praise goes to the tech.

*LOOT dons his miniskirt and grabs his pompoms*

I don't care what his process is nor his business model. He is producing a product, by himself, that no other human on the planet chooses to replicate. That is fact.

He has positioned himself, throughout his career, to be beholden to no man. He gets up every day and writes his own check. That is fact.

He has a skill set that few posses. He lives his life the way we all wish we could.

And to further my point about him STILL under valuing his work, a BRUSHED WR1 sold last night for $1000.

He has created the market. Anyone with comparable skill could replicate it. There are reasons no does. Decide for yourself what they are.

It is comical how polarizing a single man can be. Fanboy or hater, there sure are a lot of both.

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Machinist skill that few poses,what are you talking about dude?

Have you seen Stork handles who is copying his handles with better craftsmanship? ( lol I don't think copying them is nice thing to do, but he surpasses Wolfman quality and changes the design a bit in order not to be a dead on exact copy)

https://www.ebay.com/sch/stork_razors/m....7675.l2562

Do you know that Wolfman tolerances are not in the same ball park as the $130 Wunderbar slant?

No one is undervaluing his work, do any of you Wolfman fanboys understand if there was no CNC machine in existence Wolfman razors would not exist? neither would any of the other machined razors on the market, you all should be cheering for the tech that's available to produce the razor on its own...

Before razorock started pumping all his new razor designs in high numbers, tight tolerances and affordable prices he openly said now he and his machinist can finally get serious with production because " they bought brand new high end CNC machine" See even a designer and machinist know that the praise goes to the tech.

Please show me in my post where I said "machinist skill". I said skill set. Big difference.

You missed the entire point, as expected.

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I don’t know James and I certainly don’t speak for him but from what I’ve heard about him from people who do know him, he sounds like a simple guy. If James wanted to pump out as many razors as he can, there’s other options for him if that’s truly what he wants to do. Demand for Wolfman Razors has been there for a long time now and he just raised the prices despite not wanting to in the past, these aren’t the actions of a man that’s looking to milk it.

I have no clue why you keep bringing up your work life history here?

Because discussion was that James is an artist which OP assumed manually mills his razors AKA razor milled from scratch by his hands and that is not the truth, the CNC mills his razor and he is polishing them.

Me bringing my work is  an example of manually done work from scratch to finish. If I had a robot doing all the work and I just come in to grout and clean up then I would of not present my work as an example of product done from scratch, I would how ever still point out that 90% of the work is done by the CNC because that is the truth.

I think you bring up a valid point here between handmade and machined but who claims wolfman is handmade? Surely not James. His site states:

“Wolfman Razors are designed and machined in a small shop by a journeyman machinist with 17 years machining experience. From raw material to finished razors, everything is done on site by one man in Alberta, Canada.”

He then goes on to say how everything is hand finished and the process that involves.



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Apparently the way the conversation went some folks assumed he is milling them manually, he cant make them in the same tolerances as the CNC and if by some miracle he did I can only imagine the cost....

James gets huge props for making his razors look awesome with his polish, no one is taking away that from him. If there is any props that should be applauded it should go to new designs like the Rockwell, Razorock,Parthenon,Jarus,Supply Provision, Rocnel, Rex etc, innovation....

*LOOT dons his miniskirt and grabs his pompoms*

I don't care what his process is nor his business model. He is producing a product, by himself, that no other human on the planet chooses to replicate. That is fact.

He has positioned himself, throughout his career, to be beholden to no man. He gets up every day and writes his own check. That is fact.

He has a skill set that few posses. He lives his life the way we all wish we could.

And to further my point about him STILL under valuing his work, a BRUSHED WR1 sold last night for $1000.

He has created the market. Anyone with comparable skill could replicate it. There are reasons no does. Decide for yourself what they are.

It is comical how polarizing a single man can be. Fanboy or hater, there sure are a lot of both.

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Machinist skill that few poses,what are you talking about dude?

Have you seen Stork handles who is copying his handles with better craftsmanship? ( lol I don't think copying them is nice thing to do, but he surpasses Wolfman quality and changes the design a bit in order not to be a dead on exact copy)

https://www.ebay.com/sch/stork_razors/m....7675.l2562

Do you know that Wolfman tolerances are not in the same ball park as the $130 Wunderbar slant?

No one is undervaluing his work, do any of you Wolfman fanboys understand if there was no CNC machine in existence Wolfman razors would not exist? neither would any of the other machined razors on the market, you all should be cheering for the tech that's available to produce the razor on its own...

Before razorock started pumping all his new razor designs in high numbers, tight tolerances and affordable prices he openly said now he and his machinist can finally get serious with production because " they bought brand new high end CNC machine" See even a designer and machinist know that the praise goes to the tech.

Please show me in my post where I said "machinist skill".  I said skill set. Big difference.

You missed the entire point, as expected.

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Maybe I miss read that and I'm guilty of that, but here is another one of yours: " I don't care what his process is nor his business model. He is producing a product, by himself, that no other human on the planet chooses to replicate. That is fact."

Ask James if he can replicate Janus toggle copy...