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I was inspired by the video GroomingDept posted showing the Meisner Tremonia soap making process to start this thread where members can post cool videos of stuff being made - any stuff.  I think human's ability to make things both simple and complex is our crowning achievement.  I invite all of you to post videos of cool stuff being made - or ordinary stuff being made in a cool way.

I'll start with a trio of cymbal making videos, the first showing a more modern process, the second a little more traditional and the third is just cool - Paiste cymbals are what my son uses.  In his opinion they ruin you for any other cymbal (especially cheaper ones unfortunately)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyynDsMhb7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC5K8hpath0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TspRNjbAew

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Paistes are ok but I'm partial to Zildjians. They are all I play. I find they have a rich tone that is hard to duplicate. But it all depends on the type of music you play. I think Zildjians are more suited for jazz. If I'm not mistaken, guys like Elvin, Tony, Roy, Jo and Charlie all played Zildjians. YMMV of course.

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(11-19-2018, 04:34 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote: Paistes are ok but I'm partial to Zildjians.  They are all I play.  I find they have a rich tone that is hard to duplicate.  But it all depends on the type of music you play.  I think Zildjians are more suited for jazz.  If I'm not mistaken, guys like Elvin, Tony, Roy, Jo and Charlie all played Zildjians.  YMMV of course.

I'm not sure if percussionists disagree most on cymbals or drums but one thing you'll never see is a percussionist say they're indifferent to the brand they play. Big Grin

What do you call a guy who likes to hang around with musicians?

A drummer!

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(11-19-2018, 06:32 PM)Marko Wrote:
(11-19-2018, 04:34 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote: Paistes are ok but I'm partial to Zildjians.  They are all I play.  I find they have a rich tone that is hard to duplicate.  But it all depends on the type of music you play.  I think Zildjians are more suited for jazz.  If I'm not mistaken, guys like Elvin, Tony, Roy, Jo and Charlie all played Zildjians.  YMMV of course.



What do you call a guy who likes to hang around with musicians?

A drummer!

Now, them there's fightin' words. I've met a lot of drummers who are more melodic in their approach to playing than some guitarists. So there.

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(11-19-2018, 06:44 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote:
(11-19-2018, 06:32 PM)Marko Wrote:
(11-19-2018, 04:34 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote: Paistes are ok but I'm partial to Zildjians.  They are all I play.  I find they have a rich tone that is hard to duplicate.  But it all depends on the type of music you play.  I think Zildjians are more suited for jazz.  If I'm not mistaken, guys like Elvin, Tony, Roy, Jo and Charlie all played Zildjians.  YMMV of course.



What do you call a guy who likes to hang around with musicians?

A drummer!

Now, them there's fightin' words.  I've met a lot of drummers who are more melodic in their approach to playing than some guitarists.  So there.

I was just having fun. I completely agree with you. My son is a drummer, classically trained, plays piano as well as all the percussion instruments, marimba, xylophone, vibraphone, tympani, vibraslap, cowbell, blocks, brooms, trash cans. You name it, anything he can hit. So much talent and he threw it all away to become an engineer. I'm his drum tech and general roadie/labourer. He's on the other side of the country and I miss having to wear hearing protection when he practiced Big Grin Its so quiet now.

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(11-20-2018, 04:20 AM)Marko Wrote:
(11-19-2018, 06:44 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote:
(11-19-2018, 06:32 PM)Marko Wrote: What do you call a guy who likes to hang around with musicians?

A drummer!

Now, them there's fightin' words.  I've met a lot of drummers who are more melodic in their approach to playing than some guitarists.  So there.

I was just having fun.  I completely agree with you.  My son is a drummer, classically trained, plays piano as well as all the percussion instruments, marimba, xylophone, vibraphone, tympani, vibraslap, cowbell, blocks, brooms, trash cans.   You name it, anything he can hit.  So much talent and he threw it all away to become an engineer.  I'm his drum tech and general roadie/labourer.  He's on the other side of the country and I miss having to wear hearing protection when he practiced Big Grin Its so quiet now.

I knew you were having fun. That's what this forum is all about. Fun. And your son isn't the first person to throw away a perfectly promising career as a musician to chase a career that actually pays the bills and provides stability. Ah, the choices we must make.

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(11-20-2018, 05:58 AM)MntnMan62 Wrote:
(11-20-2018, 04:20 AM)Marko Wrote:
(11-19-2018, 06:44 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote: Now, them there's fightin' words.  I've met a lot of drummers who are more melodic in their approach to playing than some guitarists.  So there.

I was just having fun.  I completely agree with you.  My son is a drummer, classically trained, plays piano as well as all the percussion instruments, marimba, xylophone, vibraphone, tympani, vibraslap, cowbell, blocks, brooms, trash cans.   You name it, anything he can hit.  So much talent and he threw it all away to become an engineer.  I'm his drum tech and general roadie/labourer.  He's on the other side of the country and I miss having to wear hearing protection when he practiced Big Grin Its so quiet now.

I knew you were having fun.  That's what this forum is all about.  Fun.  And your son isn't the first person to throw away a perfectly promising career as a musician to chase a career that actually pays the bills and provides stability.  Ah, the choices we must make.

So true -...if only I'd chosen to pursue music. I could have been poor by now.

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(11-21-2018, 05:02 AM)Marko Wrote:
(11-20-2018, 05:58 AM)MntnMan62 Wrote:
(11-20-2018, 04:20 AM)Marko Wrote: I was just having fun.  I completely agree with you.  My son is a drummer, classically trained, plays piano as well as all the percussion instruments, marimba, xylophone, vibraphone, tympani, vibraslap, cowbell, blocks, brooms, trash cans.   You name it, anything he can hit.  So much talent and he threw it all away to become an engineer.  I'm his drum tech and general roadie/labourer.  He's on the other side of the country and I miss having to wear hearing protection when he practiced Big Grin Its so quiet now.

I knew you were having fun.  That's what this forum is all about.  Fun.  And your son isn't the first person to throw away a perfectly promising career as a musician to chase a career that actually pays the bills and provides stability.  Ah, the choices we must make.

So true -...if only I'd chosen to pursue music.  I could have been poor by now.

My career has taken a bit of a break after about 30+ years and I've been playing the drums a bit lately. What I really need to do is approach the drums a little more methodically and really work on rudiments and building my chops back up. Then I might actually be able to play with other people again. I keep forgetting to put ear protection in though. At my age, that's not going to go so well.

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(11-21-2018, 05:08 AM)MntnMan62 Wrote:
(11-21-2018, 05:02 AM)Marko Wrote:
(11-20-2018, 05:58 AM)MntnMan62 Wrote: I knew you were having fun.  That's what this forum is all about.  Fun.  And your son isn't the first person to throw away a perfectly promising career as a musician to chase a career that actually pays the bills and provides stability.  Ah, the choices we must make.

So true -...if only I'd chosen to pursue music.  I could have been poor by now.

My career has taken a bit of a break after about 30+ years and I've been playing the drums a bit lately.  What I really need to do is approach the drums a little more methodically and really work on rudiments and building my chops back up.  Then I might actually be able to play with other people again.  I keep forgetting to put ear protection in though.  At my age, that's not going to go so well.

Keep at it and it will come back - the chops, your hearing's screwed. I have significant hearing loss as well as tinitus. I'd always thought losing my hearing would be peaceful but its not. The distortion, ringing and actual pain from very loud sound can be unpleasant. I was at a Zac Brown Band show a couple of years ago and afterwards I told my wife that that would be my last concert. Even with cotton in my ears I had problems and the occasional nail in the eardrum sensation with some of the peak loud. It wasn't a pleasant experience and with the price of tickets these days I'll save my money and listen to music at home at lower volume.

I keep threatening my son that I'm going to sell his drum kit to make space - I'm hoping to jar him back to playing. I think I could get a decent return on some of his gear. The shells are Tama Starclassic Bubinga that he got when they were still made in Japan which technically makes them elites. I'm kidding though, I'd never sell them although even packed up they do take up a lot of space.

Check this guy out innovative use of ordinary objects as percussion instruments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksecJLVw8yc

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(This post was last modified: 11-21-2018, 07:18 AM by MntnMan62.)
(11-21-2018, 05:31 AM)Marko Wrote:
(11-21-2018, 05:08 AM)MntnMan62 Wrote:
(11-21-2018, 05:02 AM)Marko Wrote: So true -...if only I'd chosen to pursue music.  I could have been poor by now.

My career has taken a bit of a break after about 30+ years and I've been playing the drums a bit lately.  What I really need to do is approach the drums a little more methodically and really work on rudiments and building my chops back up.  Then I might actually be able to play with other people again.  I keep forgetting to put ear protection in though.  At my age, that's not going to go so well.

Keep at it and it will come back - the chops, your hearing's screwed.  I have significant hearing loss as well as tinitus.  I'd always thought losing my hearing would be peaceful but its not.  The distortion, ringing and actual pain from very loud sound can be unpleasant.  I was at a Zac Brown Band show a couple of years ago and afterwards I told my wife that that would be my last concert.  Even with cotton in my ears I had problems and the occasional nail in the eardrum sensation with some of the peak loud.  It wasn't a pleasant experience and with the price of tickets these days I'll save my money and listen to music at home at lower volume.  

I keep threatening my son that I'm going to sell his drum kit to make space - I'm hoping to jar him back to playing.  I think I could get a decent return on some of his gear.  The shells are Tama Starclassic Bubinga that he got when they were still made in Japan which technically makes them elites.  I'm kidding though, I'd never sell them although even packed up they do take up a lot of space.  

Check this guy out innovative use of ordinary objects as percussion instruments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksecJLVw8yc

I hear you, no pun intended. Those Tamas are probably worth a pretty penny. I have the original kit my parents bought me when I was 13, a Slingerland Stage Band set in White Marine Pearl that I've added onto over the years and have turned it into a decent 7 piece. I hear ringing in my ears when it gets quiet but so far it hasn't made me crazy. And when I do go to see music I always forget to bring the plugs. Maybe from here on out I'll make a point of remembering to put them in. I enjoy taking my son to see the jazz and fusion I grew up on and with midtown Manhattan about 30 minutes away we get in fairly regularly to catch obscure name acts at the jazz clubs. He eats that stuff up. And I love that I can turn him onto that stuff. I think the first time I took him to a jazz club he was either 12 or 13. He's 15 now. Since my wife isn't into that kind of music, those evenings turn into a guy's night out.

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