Grooming Dept

I might add that every one of my Grooming Dept reviews has been glowing.

Again, I was not speaking to your "reviews."

Again, I was not speaking to your "reviews."

Well, I'm relieved you're not talking about my "reviews" then. <eyeroll>

I'm usually content by watching drama from the sidelines in a shaving forum.....
But you "liked" the posts from someone who is continually negative?

I don’t have a problem with someone being negative with a product at all. As long as they express there opinion without picking fights with others. I’m not sure who you’re talking about specifically but maybe I’ve just not seen them attacking others.


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I was speaking specifically to the childish spat that you liked the posts on but then said there shouldn't be fighting. I am all for positive and negative product reviews, respectfully.

In my opinion he was defending himself from someone who constantly gets in these back and forth on this thread. Obviously we have different opinions on it and that’s fine my friend.


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So the bickering seems to be happening because some people insist on repeating criticism of the same things Ad infinitum! It's always couched: I like the soap bases, but..... Some people then get caught in Ad nauseam loop

Grooming Dept was never about a coherent 5 soaps with 5 matching aftershaves, a sprinkling of limited editions and special editions Diverse labels, hybrid formulae, complex scents will always be part of Grooming Dept.

The market has many phenomenal alternatives, some people should really move on to those products and should enjoy the stability and coherent packaging other amazing brands have to offer.

Fellow shavers, a reminder concerning two of the very few rules that we have:
• Personal attacks will not be tolerated.  Period.
• Be respectful of all other members at all times.  Period.

Unfortunately, I have a deadline that allows me no time for further moderating. That will have to come later. Until then, try to keep in mind that constructive feedback and even polite criticism is OK. Insults and personal attacks are not.

So the bickering seems to be happening because some people insist on repeating criticism of the same things Ad infinitum! It's always couched: I like the soap bases, but..... Some people then get caught in Ad nauseam loop

Grooming Dept was never about a coherent 5 soaps with 5 matching aftershaves, a sprinkling of limited editions and special editions Diverse labels, hybrid formulae, complex scents will always be part of Grooming Dept.

The market has many phenomenal alternatives, some people should really move on to those products and should enjoy the stability and coherent packaging other amazing brands have to offer.

Fair enough Mohammed, my post was more pointed towards the way we treat each other on these type of forums. I wish we could point out pros and cons of all products without attacking each other personally. Maybe we’ll get there someday


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Be careful what you wish for, Mo. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your haphazard approach and experimenting. Just realize that it has... Limitations. If you're okay with that, rock on.

Here's a good example of brand identity... Notice a pattern?

Be careful what you wish for, Mo.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with your haphazard approach and experimenting.  Just realize that it has...  Limitations.  If you're okay with that, rock on.

Here's a good example of brand identity...  Notice a pattern?

That's fine for Leica, BMW, Mercedes Benz. I subscribe to design language from different schools of design, I admire and emulate brands I like: Maison Martin Margiela, Come De Garcone, Alexander McQueen. etc... If and when Grooming Dept becomes a corporate behemoth, I'll hire Pentagram to create a coherent identity for the brand.

That's fine for Leica, BMW, Mercedes Benz. I subscribe to design language from different schools of design, I admire and emulate brands I like: Maison Martin Margiela, Come De Garcone, Alexander McQueen. etc... If and when Grooming Dept becomes a corporate behemoth, I'll hire Pentagram to create a coherent identity for the brand.

Okay, do your thing. But remember - marketing is important regardless of size. Just ask Mason Boutique.

Mo’s approach is part of the gd charm. Outlier as some would say. If you feel uncomfortable and desire “normal and accepted” practices there are a multitude of options. I personally like his labels and I spent my time in advertising also. Part of his unique selling proposition I believe. If gd becomes a mega brand than consistency may become necessary but I guarantee the posts will be full of nostalgia for the good old days..... of different labels, shipping challenges and how Mo posted a photo of his new shipping table. Simpson brushes is one such example.