#921
That's probably my problem. I get excited to try all of his stuff. And that's kind of a good problem for me to have in a way. I have found some incredible soaps.

I still say the vegan soap base is hard to beat.

The hardest of his bases that I've tried so far is the mullard Duck fat base. I kind of like the hardness as I feel like it might last a little longer. In reality, I won't know till I finish it.

So far, I haven't found a base I don't like from him.

Grooming Dept soaps are the bees knees of shaving soaps... at least for me.

I couldn't resist and picked up the lamb tallow and a beef Tallow this go around. Call me crazy, but I guess I have no self-control. LOL

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#922
I would leave that poll up a few days longer. Those on Tapatalk cant vote and need to get on a pc to vote.

I think this is the closest I have seen splashes and toners split. Usually the splashes beat toner use by a very large margin.


In regards to the feelings on holding out I have myself doing the same thing.

Take the Reserve base from Will. You know what you get and you simply push the button. When you read reformulations I pause too.

I think Mo is on that the experiment bases should be labeled as LE's and keep his winners as a stockable item that doesnt change very much if at all.

The Mallard is the one that kinda bothers me. It is always called Mallard which will making trading or selling tough. Because its the same name but ingredients always change you wont know what you get. Id like to see it numbered like Mallard v1, Mallard v2 and so on. That way when your looking to pick it up on the BST you know which run you are getting.

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#923

Member
Santa Rosa - CA
(12-17-2017, 01:41 AM)jaxstraww Wrote: I would leave that poll up a few days longer. Those on Tapatalk cant vote and need to get on a pc to vote.

I think this is the closest I have seen splashes and toners split. Usually the splashes beat toner use by a very large margin.


In regards to the feelings on holding out I have myself doing the same thing.

Take the Reserve base from Will. You know what you get and you simply push the button. When you read reformulations I pause too.

I think Mo is on that the experiment bases should be labeled as LE's and keep his winners as a stockable item that doesnt change very much if at all.

The Mallard is the one that kinda bothers me. It is always called Mallard which will making trading or selling tough. Because its the same name but ingredients always change you wont know what you get. Id like to see it numbered like Mallard v1, Mallard v2 and so on. That way when your looking to pick it up on the BST you know which run you are getting.

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I agree on all point. Stability won Smile Three bases are set in stone for the next 12 months. There will be special editions.

I agree on Mallard, many people have asked for the same thing. Hence the next two Mallard releases will be called. Mallard - Kulfi and Mallard - Chai

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#924
(12-17-2017, 02:19 AM)GroomingDept Wrote:
(12-17-2017, 01:41 AM)jaxstraww Wrote: I would leave that poll up a few days longer. Those on Tapatalk cant vote and need to get on a pc to vote.

I think this is the closest I have seen splashes and toners split. Usually the splashes beat toner use by a very large margin.


In regards to the feelings on holding out I have myself doing the same thing.

Take the Reserve base from Will. You know what you get and you simply push the button. When you read reformulations I pause too.

I think Mo is on that the experiment bases should be labeled as LE's and keep his winners as a stockable item that doesnt change very much if at all.

The Mallard is the one that kinda bothers me. It is always called Mallard which will making trading or selling tough. Because its the same name but ingredients always change you wont know what you get. Id like to see it numbered like Mallard v1, Mallard v2 and so on. That way when your looking to pick it up on the BST you know which run you are getting.

Sent from my Samsung S8+


I agree on all point. Stability won Smile Three bases are set in stone for the next 12 months. There will be special editions.

I agree on Mallard, many people have asked for the same thing. Hence the next two Mallard releases will be called. Mallard - Kulfi and Mallard - Chai
Mo, love your response time to posts.

Heck, with the Mallard you could probably order the same container to still get better quantity discounts and just apply the batch sticker on the bottom or side of the container that identifies the specific run. Stickers are functional and cheaper than redoing one of the better tub images in production every batch changeover.



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#925
(12-17-2017, 02:28 AM)jaxstraww Wrote:
(12-17-2017, 02:19 AM)GroomingDept Wrote:
(12-17-2017, 01:41 AM)jaxstraww Wrote: I would leave that poll up a few days longer. Those on Tapatalk cant vote and need to get on a pc to vote.

I think this is the closest I have seen splashes and toners split. Usually the splashes beat toner use by a very large margin.


In regards to the feelings on holding out I have myself doing the same thing.

Take the Reserve base from Will. You know what you get and you simply push the button. When you read reformulations I pause too.

I think Mo is on that the experiment bases should be labeled as LE's and keep his winners as a stockable item that doesnt change very much if at all.

The Mallard is the one that kinda bothers me. It is always called Mallard which will making trading or selling tough. Because its the same name but ingredients always change you wont know what you get. Id like to see it numbered like Mallard v1, Mallard v2 and so on. That way when your looking to pick it up on the BST you know which run you are getting.

Sent from my Samsung S8+


I agree on all point. Stability won Smile Three bases are set in stone for the next 12 months. There will be special editions.

I agree on Mallard, many people have asked for the same thing. Hence the next two Mallard releases will be called. Mallard - Kulfi and Mallard - Chai
Mo, love your response time to posts.

Heck, with the Mallard you could probably order the same container to still get better quantity discounts and just apply the batch sticker on the bottom or side of the container that identifies the specific run. Stickers are functional and cheaper than redoing one of the better tub images in production every batch changeover.



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Love this idea about using the same tub with an identification sticker on the bottom!! Very smart thinking and cost saving!


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Santa Rosa - CA
(12-17-2017, 02:28 AM)jaxstraww Wrote:
(12-17-2017, 02:19 AM)GroomingDept Wrote:
(12-17-2017, 01:41 AM)jaxstraww Wrote: I would leave that poll up a few days longer. Those on Tapatalk cant vote and need to get on a pc to vote.

I think this is the closest I have seen splashes and toners split. Usually the splashes beat toner use by a very large margin.


In regards to the feelings on holding out I have myself doing the same thing.

Take the Reserve base from Will. You know what you get and you simply push the button. When you read reformulations I pause too.

I think Mo is on that the experiment bases should be labeled as LE's and keep his winners as a stockable item that doesnt change very much if at all.

The Mallard is the one that kinda bothers me. It is always called Mallard which will making trading or selling tough. Because its the same name but ingredients always change you wont know what you get. Id like to see it numbered like Mallard v1, Mallard v2 and so on. That way when your looking to pick it up on the BST you know which run you are getting.

Sent from my Samsung S8+


I agree on all point. Stability won Smile Three bases are set in stone for the next 12 months. There will be special editions.

I agree on Mallard, many people have asked for the same thing. Hence the next two Mallard releases will be called. Mallard - Kulfi and Mallard - Chai
Mo, love your response time to posts.

Heck, with the Mallard you could probably order the same container to still get better quantity discounts and just apply the batch sticker on the bottom or side of the container that identifies the specific run. Stickers are functional and cheaper than redoing one of the better tub images in production every batch changeover.



Sent from my Samsung S8+

I thought about it, but those jars are slightly concave stickers don't sit well there. But I like designing new labels Smile

In 2018 each base will have its own side label too. Mallard - Kulfi and Mallard - Chai will be the first to get the duck base side labels. Anyone who bought soaps from me will be able to request side labels for the jars, I'll ship them for free.

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#927

Posting Freak
I'm not sure why so many people are hung up on the whole multiple bases and changing formulas thing. I think its an incredible ride and I'm just happy to be along Big Grin After a while you get to know what certain artisans are about and seriously, do we really expect that they're going to put out something crappy? I think its incredible that we can be part of the whole thing and that occasionally we might be surprised by what people like Mohammad are capable of...sometimes blown away. I in no way want to constrain abodes creativity. An example of what can happen when an artisan is left to their own devices is Chatillon Lux Blackberry Blossom Bay. I had really grown to love Shawn's creations in the post shave space and I'd been talking to him and suggested that he ought to have a bay rum in his lineup - I love bay rum and I figured if you make post shave stuff bay rum is a no brainer. Well, Shawn isn't a fan of bay rum so he politely declined - he won't make something he himself doesn't like. I was a bit disappointed but thats life. Eventually I got Shawn to consider the concept of a bay "inspired" fragrance and he was open to it. I had no more input into the process because who am I to tell an artist how to apply paint to canvas? So the outcome was Blackberry Blossom Bay and I love it - its like nothing else. And I'm hoping it comes around again Smile I guess I'm saying relax and enjoy the ride.

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#928

Member
Santa Rosa - CA
(12-17-2017, 03:02 AM)Marko Wrote: I'm not sure why so many people are hung up on the whole multiple bases and changing formulas thing.  I think its an incredible ride and I'm just happy to be along Big Grin   After a while you get to know what certain artisans are about and seriously, do we really expect that they're going to put out something crappy?  I think its incredible that we can be part of the whole thing and that occasionally we might be surprised by what people like Mohammad are capable of...sometimes blown away.  I in no way want to constrain abodes creativity.  An example of what can happen when an artisan is left to their own devices is Chatillon Lux Blackberry Blossom Bay.  I had really grown to love Shawn's creations in the post shave space and I'd been talking to him and suggested that he ought to have a bay rum in his lineup - I love bay rum and I figured if you make post shave stuff bay rum is a no brainer.  Well, Shawn isn't a fan of bay rum so he politely declined - he won't make something he himself doesn't like.  I was a bit disappointed but thats life.  Eventually I got Shawn to consider the concept of a bay "inspired" fragrance and he was open to it.  I had no more input into the process because who am I to tell an artist how to apply paint to canvas?  So the outcome was Blackberry Blossom Bay and I love it - its like nothing else.  And I'm hoping it comes around again Smile  I guess I'm saying relax and enjoy the ride.

Thank you so much! I understand how stability is important for some people. I think 3 fixed bases is good for now to get people comfortable about what they're buying and not feel that they're missing out on upgrades or newly introduced changes. I'll use the special editions to showcase new or special ingredients I'm working with.

I'm working on a bay rose aftershave Smile

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#929
Marko, you apparently missed my post a few places earlier.

While I think it's cute that so many people try to tell everyone else how to think, I for one would appreciate if each person would simply state their own opinion and not try to suggest how others should think.

By all means, state your opinion. I sure do. Other than that, when I do, I clearly say that this is my opinion and my preference. I think that is a tremendous advantage to someone like Mohammed. It gives him a chance to hear from many of us and then make his own mind up.

Some, think like you do.

Some would prefer more stable bases. I fall into that camp. However, like I wrote sometime back, there is room for all of this.

There's room for having stable bases so that those that think along the lines that I do can be satiated. And there's room for experimental bases that lets those who would like to be on the cutting-edge of new, all the time, also enjoy that side of things.

Perhaps more importantly though is there should be room for each of us to state our opinion without others trying to tell us how to think.

Whatever Muhammad does with his soaps, he does. I will live with it. And I will love them. I have many soaps from him. And I am a huge, vocal supporter.

And I have my preferences. And I state them so that he knows. I think we should all do that. And I think we should all feel comfortable in doing it without having somebody try to meta comment and presuppose what we're suggesting would be better left unsaid.

You may or may not be familiar with the meta program choice called "Sameness vs. Difference".

People are approximately evenly divided between them. Basically, those that have their default response at sameness, don't like change. They like things to be predictable. They like to know that what they're doing today will be the same tomorrow. It gives them a sense of control.

Alternatively, Differences oriented people like new things. They can't stand to have things predictable for long. They constantly want something new to experiment with.

These distinctions can also predict how long a person will keep a job etc. They are hardwired in after a very young age and generally do not change over time. They are however context-dependent. Change the context, and you may be a different one of the patterns.

I could go on and on but that's probably enough.

Arguing one, when others are a different one is pointless. You will get nowhere.

A smart business strategy is to appeal to both types where possible.

I trust, that this is well enough said.

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#930

Member
Virginia
How 'bout them Washington Capitals!!!

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