#11

Member
Castro Valley,CA
If you're not removing any hair it's very likely that your razor needs to be honed. I'd be happy to hone it for you(PM if interested). Any strop from a reputable vendor should be fine, but don't spend too much on your first one. For now try stropping on paper as others have suggested.
#12
So last night I tried about 15min of hot water prep then just left water on my face NO lather and tried a little spot on my face every angle and couldn't remove any hair's. This razor I got from gem star
#13

Member
Castro Valley,CA
It needs to be honed. A well honed and maintained edge is everything on a straight razor. Like I said, I can do it for you. You cover shipping cost.

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#14

One Over The 8th
north central Fla.
(10-23-2015, 12:30 PM)Chaddy Wrote: So last night I tried about 15min of hot water prep then just left water on my face NO lather and tried a little spot on my face every angle and couldn't remove any hair's. This razor I got from gem star




~~~hey Chaddy!...I wondered what happened to you and your effort at straight razor shaving. first of all, why would you want to shave, using any type of razor, w/o using a shave soap or shave cream lather? are you having bad skin reactions to lather? I wouldn't think of shaving with any type of razor, w/o first lathering up.

you said you did a hot water prep for 15 minutes. that's a start but typically when doing a barber towel type prep, shave soap (lather) is worked into your beard using a shave brush for several minutes, then a hot damp towel goes on top of the worked in lather. this is done so the brushed in shave soap, and hot wet towel forces the dirt and the oils in your skin pores to migrate up and out, so you can wipe it all away with the towel, removing the dirt and oils so they wont infect your skin, while the sharp razor's edge slices whiskars

also, a good lather will be slick so the sharp razor's edge will easily glide over (on top of) your skin, and the previous prep (including lather and towel) will soften the whiskers so they will be easier to cut. hot water alone wont get the whiskers soft, but hot water, hot towel and worked in lather will greatly help to soften the whisker shaft, making it easier to cut

that said, some guys wont prep their beard at all before shaving. me?, I wont shave without doing a proper barber towel prep first, and I also use a pre shave cream (Proraso) under the towel and before I work the shave soap into my beard with a shave brush

you've been asked if your razor's edge is sharp. this is how I test a razor's suitability for shaving http://coticule.be/hanging-hair-test.html

speaking strictly for myself, I wouldn't consider shaving with any blade that doesn't pass an HHT4 after stropping. HHT3 is fine off the hone as stropping will gain another point, but HHT3 after stropping, that edge wont cut whiskers well at all

sure, you can shave with an HHT3 edge after stropping, and I can get close to BBS with such and edge, with a lot of passes and a lot of touch ups, but why abuse your skin? shave with a sharp edge, and slick lather. others may have better and different ideas
#15
(This post was last modified: 10-31-2015, 04:02 AM by Chaddy.)
I can't find a razor or someone who can hone one to remove hair. I tried a little spot without lather just to see if I could remove any hair. My neck is a bad place for any razor. I have to do 6 pass with r41 ikon tech. I haven't tried a straight razor in 5 days cause I can't try shaving for a hour to try to remove hair then do six passes with a de. I need more time in the day.

I'm having a hard time seeing what I'm doing while stretching (trying) my skin. It's hard for me.
#16

One Over The 8th
north central Fla.
(10-31-2015, 04:00 AM)Chaddy Wrote: I can't find a razor or someone who can hone one to remove hair.


~~~do you live in England?
#17
Naw USA
#18

Member
Castro Valley,CA
Well... I don't know what else I can say. Have you read my previous posts?
#19

One Over The 8th
north central Fla.
Chaddy!,  I agree with the others when it's been suggested you need to at least send your razor to someone that is capable of putting a shave ready edge on it, to test it for you, if you aren't going to try and test it for yourself, to see if it is in fact shave ready or not

A straight razor that is not sharp wont cut facial hair very well.  I myself prefer to use the hanging hair test to judge a razor's suitability for shaving.  If you try using that testing procedure and you can't get an HHT4 result, it's probably not shave ready

When I asked you if you lived in England, I thought perhaps you didn't want to incur the postage cost to send the razor to the USA, if you lived in England.  Since you live in the USA, there are plenty of honers you could send it to, with postage only costing about $3 each way sent first class mail.  In fact, another member here offered to hone it for you at no charge for the honing (Trinity Shaving).  If I were you, I would take this gentleman up on his generous offer

If you want to pay someone to hone it for you, may I suggest using Alfredo, AKA Doc225 http://doc226.com/Doc226/Home.html  Al's sharpened plenty of razors for me and his edges are 2nd to none.  FWIW, Al uses J-Nats for sharpening and they're beautiful edges.  I would offer to hone for you at no charge but I'm busier than the one legged man at the ass kicking contest, and don't even bother (any more) to hone my own razors, but that said, I have an idea I have enough sharpened blades to last me nearly a lifetime of shaves, due to the fact I only shave about once a week, and I know how to handle, strop and store a razor, so they keep their edges for incredibly long periods of time*  

Some people I know that hone (Scott in Lake City Fla. comes to mind) charge the Priority Mail rate ($5 or $6?) to send a razor back, as they prefer to have the post office come to their door for pick up.  I know I've sent plenty of razors using paypal.com/shipnow and as long as the total package weight is under 13 ounces, the first class fee is approx.. $3  Then I print that label (you have to have a printer), affix to the package, and theoretically, I could place the package in my rural mailbox for the post office to pick up.  I myself am a bit leery of just anyone looking inside my mailbox with a red flag on it so I drop off all of my packages at the post office, and hence, why some that offer return shipping service, use Priority mail

Anyways, we can't help you if you don't let us=:-)


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.

*some years ago I read on occasion where someone made the claim they got 100 shaves from their straight razor, before it needed to be honed again.  I thought that either A) they were falsely boasting about their honing skill, or B) they were high on meth.  Over time though, I learnt how to treat a straight razor so as not to damage the shaving edge, thereby increasing it's shave readiness, and found, that with certain razors (good quality metal) and a quality edge applied by good sound honing methods, 100 shaves from a straight razor is entirely possible.  Of course other factors come into play, such as, how many passes you use each shave, how coarse your beard hairs are, on and on, but it's not foolish chatter to expect a long life from a properly executed hone on a quality razor.  Speaking strictly for myself, it's taken me years to learn how properly handle a straight razor
#20
(12-17-2015, 10:05 AM)shakin_jake Wrote: some years ago I read on occasion where someone made the claim they got 100 shaves from their straight razor, before it needed to be honed again.  I thought that either A) they were falsely boasting about their honing skill, or B) they were high on meth.  Over time though, I learnt how to treat a straight razor so as not to damage the shaving edge, thereby increasing it's shave readiness, and found, that with certain razors (good quality metal) and a quality edge applied by good sound honing methods, 100 shaves from a straight razor is entirely possible.  Of course other factors come into play, such as, how many passes you use each shave, how coarse your beard hairs are, on and on, but it's not foolish chatter to expect a long life from a properly executed hone on a quality razor.  Speaking strictly for myself, it's taken me years to learn how properly handle a straight razor

I've recently started to use a straight razor. I keep track of how many shaves I put on a DE or SE blade and now, too, on my one and only SR. I've got 29 three pass plus touch ups shaves since I got the razor last month. It still shaves close but I'm beginning to feel a little tugging. I've got some CrOx paste and a Naniwa 12k coming in tomorrow. I want to maintain my edge as long as possible between hones. My questions are: Is it too soon for me to start maintaining the edge? Do I use either the CrOx or the 12k exclusively to start? If so, which one is preferred? Or do I use them in concert with each other? Sorry for the noob questions in this thread, but I saw the above quote and felt the need to reach out.


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