ETHOS Grooming Essentials A New Line

Frank, What's going on with the Mandarino Fumo? I know you are waiting for the vendors to receive them but wasn't that over a week ago?

Oh and Nero Matt here’s a photo of your other custom order of the Eucalyptus Absolute F Base Shave Soap and Skin Food splash, as I forgot to take the photos yesterday. When I pored the soap it was as green as the splash but it got lighter overnight. Still like the color and better yet the scent.  

What type of eucalyptus did you guys use for The Shave soap?

Frank, What's going on with the Mandarino Fumo? I know you are waiting for the vendors to receive them but wasn't that over a week ago?

What type of eucalyptus did you guys use for The Shave soap?

It’s a Eucalyptus Absolute I got from a out of the country supplier and it’s the first time I’ve personally ran across one. It’s native to the Mediterranean area and is not like an essential oil but a very dark green thick syrup that needs to be infused. It’s my favorite smelling Eucalyptus I’ve smelled just wish it was a little easier to work with. Lol

Frank, What's going on with the Mandarino Fumo? I know you are waiting for the vendors to receive them but wasn't that over a week ago?

Oh and Nero Matt here’s a photo of your other custom order of the Eucalyptus Absolute F Base Shave Soap and Skin Food splash, as I forgot to take the photos yesterday. When I pored the soap it was as green as the splash but it got lighter overnight. Still like the color and better yet the scent.  

Looking good!! Can't wait to get my nose on it!

The only two serums that I currently offer that are staying in the ETHOS product line up but have been slightly modified are the Remede serums for both Normal and Dry skin. 

Are the new versions of Remede available on the site now or is this in the near future?

The only two serums that I currently offer that are staying in the ETHOS product line up but have been slightly modified are the Remede serums for both Normal and Dry skin. 

Are the new versions of Remede available on the site now or is this in the near future?

The Normal and Dry Skin formulas will be up on the site next week on the site Also the new Replenish 2% Hyaluronic acid serum is already up as well as the Lost Souls Healing serum.  More serums coming soon. 

Thanks for asking. I forgot to post that info up.

Hi there,

I realize that the constant questions about the F Base can probably get frustrating. Especially as you work on new lineups for the most recent iteration of the S Base. I don't think it's so much an issue of people thinking it's better, but of people trying to get more bang for their buck.

At least, I find that this is the case for me. I don't get paid as much as I like, and for a few dollars more, to me, it seems like a no-brainer to go for the F Base stuff. And while I'm not one of the people constantly asking about this, I often find myself checking your site and your vendors' sites, and holding off on buying anything in hopes it comes out in the F Base at some point.

Again, it's a matter of funds for me. If I have the option of a cream or croap, or a harder version of it with identical or similar performance, and I know I can probably get it in a large size, all for a reasonable bump in price, I'll do that, even if I have to wait. I have Success in the F Base, and wish my DFS Colonia and Lavender were in that base too. And in the larger size. But the question is always on my mind: do i purchase now, or wait, and spend a little more for the other ones? I tend to go with the latter, and likely will continue to do so. Even with the harder S Base around.

P.S. As soon as F Base versions are available, the Sandalwood, Smoke/Mandarin, and Blood Orange will be in my cart. Especially if they're available in the larger size. Same for DFS Colonia.

Hi there,

I realize that the constant questions about the F Base can probably get frustrating. Especially as you work on new lineups for the most recent iteration of the S Base. I don't think it's so much an issue of people thinking it's better, but of people trying to get more bang for their buck.

At least, I find that this is the case for me. I don't get paid as much as I like, and for a few dollars more, to me, it seems like a no-brainer to go for the F Base stuff. And while I'm not one of the people constantly asking about this, I often find myself checking your site and your vendors' sites, and holding off on buying anything in hopes it comes out in the F Base at some point.

Again, it's a matter of funds for me. If I have the option of a cream or croap, or a harder version of it with identical or similar performance, and I know I can probably get it in a large size, all for a reasonable bump in price, I'll do that, even if I have to wait. I have Success in the F Base, and wish my DFS Colonia and Lavender were in that base too. And in the larger size. But the question is always on my mind: do i purchase now, or wait, and spend a little more for the other ones? I tend to go with the latter, and likely will continue to do so. Even with the harder S Base around.

P.S. As soon as F Base versions are available, the Sandalwood, Smoke/Mandarin, and Blood Orange will be in my cart. Especially if they're available in the larger size. Same for DFS Colonia.

Hello Sir

I totally understand your position and respect it. We all like what we like right. Anyway I guess my frustration was that it seems like all the more public reviews out there are all of the original base which I’ve acknowledged was a softer/croap type base and it seemed like it is assumed that all my soaps are that way which is not the case both with the new F Base and the new S Base. Also not only have I made the S Base quite a bit Firmer than the original I’ve added even more skin beneficial ingredients to it and in that area it’s similar to the F Base. The S Base has been a 4 oz fill since conception and since the F Base came out it’s been a 4.5 oz fill. Not all the F Base Shave soaps come in the 7.5 oz but I’m probably going to start to bring back both sizes as I’ve noticed when they are available they go very quickly. 

So from a price standpoint the original base in a standard scent like Lavender Supreme was $36.00 for a 4 oz jar while the same scent in the F Base is $38 but it’s a 4.5 oz fill so $2 more and a half an oz more but it’s not so much about the fill that made it more expensive but more so the added skin beneficial ingredients I added to the first batches of the F Base. So from this point on when I make the next S Base and have to create a new label I’ll make both S and S base the same 4.5 oz and the price will be the same as the skin beneficial ingredients will be equal in both. What really dictates the price differences more than anything is the Aroma blends. Example: both the upcoming Mandarino Fumo and the Tonka Bean have much more expensive essential oils and absolutes than let’s say a simple Lavender ( not that my Lavender I use is not inexpensive but still not as costly as Aroma ingredients like Tobacco Absolute, East Indian Sandalwood or Tonka Bean absolute etc etc. I’ve said it from day one, I price my products according to what’s in them. Yes are they expensive compared to sone brands and could I make them less expensive? Absolutely. If I  put the same product in a commonly used Parkway Plastic jar that alone would reduce the price of a jar of soap by quite a bit. If I used  all synthetic fragrance oils or even aroma chemicals prices would be lower. Not to mention all the skin beneficial ingredients like the EOS Complex which is very expensive. If I changed all those I’d be right there with many of the other brands but that’s not the path I decided to take. I love the freedom of using the very best ingredients I can get my hands on and using aroma ingredients that are more natural. An yes more expensive and sometimes very expensive.
I guess it all boils down to its up to folks as to wether they feel my products are worth the extra cost. . I will say I feel very fortunate to have a lot of customers that do enjoy them and the packaging they come in. 

Also addressing one other topic you mentioned that there are certain soaps like the Blood Orange that you’d get if it came in the F Base but honestly the F Base would not do that beautiful Blood Orange any justice as the heat would Decimate the scent strength down to a fait whiff whereas the Tallow Shave Creme allows me to add it at room temperature.  So there are Aroma blends that fit certain bases much better than others. I will say that more new shave soaps will be in the F Base as well as some of the standards like Lavender Supreme and Succes as they’ll come in both bases. 

Thank you for posting up your input. I like to hear from my customers and believe me I take all the feedback, input and suggestions into consideration. 

Best regards and great shaves! 

Frank

I've been thinking about this for a while from a business person's perspective, and obviously some people aren't going to like me saying this, but... I think these (particularly F Base) should all be priced higher.

That way they maybe won't sell out SO quickly, and I'm sure they'll still sell out relatively quickly and those who value them so much will still pay for them and Frank could still make a decent income and not have so many items sold out at the same time.

The fact that all the F Base soaps are sold out (every time, quickly) tells you that the price is too low for the market. It's that simple.

Supply and demand. It's a beautiful thing.

Economically speaking, it really doesn't make sense to make S Base for a long time (until the market gets the F Base), since S Base doesn't sell out (as quickly)... FOR WHATEVER REASON. Any reason. Buyers' perspectives (WHO and WHY) determine WHAT buyers want to buy, WHEN, and for HOW much.
Who, what, where, when, why, how... The fundamental questions for anything.

I've been thinking about this for a while from a business person's perspective, and obviously some people aren't going to like me saying this, but... I think these (particularly F Base) should all be priced higher.

That way they maybe won't sell out SO quickly, and I'm sure they'll still sell out relatively quickly and those who value them so much will still pay for them and Frank could still make a decent income and not have so many items sold out at the same time.

The fact that all the F Base soaps are sold out (every time, quickly) tells you that the price is too low for the market. It's that simple.

Supply and demand. It's a beautiful thing.

Economically speaking, it really doesn't make sense to make S Base for a long time (until the market gets the F Base), since S Base doesn't sell out (as quickly)... FOR WHATEVER REASON. Any reason. Buyers' perspectives (WHO and WHY) determine WHAT buyers want to buy, WHEN, and for HOW much.
Who, what, where, when, why, how... The fundamental questions for anything.

I suppose that does work for some, but for me personally, I'd then be priced out of this particular market. At that point I'd no longer be able to purchase these. Which is okay. Not everything is affordable and not everyone can get the top priced luxury stuff. But at that point I'd just be left in the dust, along with others I guess lol

As it stands, I currently budget out a set amount for stuff like this, and my financial situation would dictate that I would have to then relegate a purchase of this to an occasion of once in a blue moon, if I can get it at all heh.