(02-17-2023, 05:28 AM)Itsallgravy Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:25 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote:Id love a rose in your f base. Would you be going for a green rose or a sweet powdery rose? Violet sounds nice too.(02-17-2023, 04:06 AM)Nero Wrote: All those options sound nice to me, Frank. However, if I could do anything , I'm dying for someone to make a natural smelling, straight Violet (don't want that old fashioned violet candy, others have done that, but not for me)...
That’s funny you bring that up Matt.
I have a custom order in for a F Base soap and Skin Food Lotion that the customer wanted a straight Violet with no other Aroma ingredients in them. We had a discussion and the obvious was to use some pre done synthetic Violet candle/soap making fragrance oil or could use a synthetic Violet accord. After talking we both came to the conclusion and agreed that I would use 100% pure Violet Essential oil. I decided to try samples from 3 different suppliers and found one that stood out from the rest. Not inexpensive but also not crazy expensive so that’s what we are going with and the EO just came in so next batch of F Base I make I’ll make the products. With that said if I put the Violet in the new Tallow Creme base I certainly wouldn’t have to use as much as I would if making the Shave soap to let’s say achieve the same scent strength. Therefore it would be less expensive to make the Creme vs Soap.
That’s a good one Matt
Oh I’m also strongly considering doing a straight natural Rose ( I like Rose all by itself) and I’ve been going back and forth on Soap or Creme on that one.
Thanks for the suggestion my friend!
Good Question
If I’m going to do a Rose I want to be like the Red Roses that you smell in the garden. I have some beautiful Rose Essential Oils in my Aroma Library and the older I get the more I like Rose but it’s got to be straight similar to a Persian Rose Absolute I have. Beautiful! An my 2nd favorite Floral.
I also have a white Rose Absolute that does have that green note and it’s very nice.
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(02-17-2023, 05:50 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:28 AM)Itsallgravy Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:25 AM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: That’s funny you bring that up Matt.Id love a rose in your f base. Would you be going for a green rose or a sweet powdery rose? Violet sounds nice too.
I have a custom order in for a F Base soap and Skin Food Lotion that the customer wanted a straight Violet with no other Aroma ingredients in them. We had a discussion and the obvious was to use some pre done synthetic Violet candle/soap making fragrance oil or could use a synthetic Violet accord. After talking we both came to the conclusion and agreed that I would use 100% pure Violet Essential oil. I decided to try samples from 3 different suppliers and found one that stood out from the rest. Not inexpensive but also not crazy expensive so that’s what we are going with and the EO just came in so next batch of F Base I make I’ll make the products. With that said if I put the Violet in the new Tallow Creme base I certainly wouldn’t have to use as much as I would if making the Shave soap to let’s say achieve the same scent strength. Therefore it would be less expensive to make the Creme vs Soap.
That’s a good one Matt
Oh I’m also strongly considering doing a straight natural Rose ( I like Rose all by itself) and I’ve been going back and forth on Soap or Creme on that one.
Thanks for the suggestion my friend!
Good Question
If I’m going to do a Rose I want to be like the Red Roses that you smell in the garden. I have some beautiful Rose Essential Oils in my Aroma Library and the older I get the more I like Rose but it’s got to be straight similar to a Persian Rose Absolute I have. Beautiful! An my 2nd favorite Floral.
I also have a white Rose Absolute that does have that green note and it’s very nice.
It's always a tough call, i can't say if i really like one over the other. Rose just smells nice and clean though both ways. One of my favorites is mdc rose. Very nice smooth powdery sweetness with just a touch of green.
(02-16-2023, 06:49 PM)Dragonsbeard Wrote: Ok so I have a question as I’m looking for some input.
Yesterday I made a good sized batch of Tallow Shave Creme and of course it’s Unscented right now. So some I have to use to restock the Blue Note as that’s all gone and I’ll make some more Bergamotto so I can get some out to my vendors who sold out. Also have 3 custom Shave Cremes to make for some customers. A straight Tobacco and he also wants the Tonka Bean and then another wants a real Honeysuckle but I’m going to have enough left to
Make another Shave Creme. I’m thinking either of these two. Melage De Agrume or Blood Orange again. Of course they both get the new Tallow Shave Creme base that’s in the Bergamotto. I could come out with the new Revello earlier than I was going to as I was saving it for the Spring release since it’s a light clean scent.
Any thoughts/suggestions?
As always, thanks gents!
Blood Orange or Colonia in a hard soap or brushless cream would be most excellent
(02-17-2023, 09:51 AM)Captainjonny Wrote: I cannot wait for your version of Persian Rose Absolute. I vote for your Rose to be cream if that is possible. There are very few Rose aftershaves and Colognes on the market...so I would also like the companion aftershave and EDT.
Now your talking my language. Also a Lotion & Serum as Rose naturally is excellent for the skin.
The biggest decision is Soap or Creme … Cremes scent strength will be stronger and he Rose will smell as exactly like it went in and be potentially diminished or loose some of its integrity as it will not be exposed to the high temperatures it would be if I made it in a Shave soap. Of course then there’s no jar lathering. So a little. Bit of a trade off which leads me back to the question, Soap or Creme?
Thanks for the input
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(02-17-2023, 03:31 PM)AlphaFrank75 Wrote: I think you should base your decision on Soap or Cream on which base best showcases your intended goal when it comes to the scent. Even with your F base I still scrape up soap and mash it into my lather bowl.Exactly.
Your customers are obviously looking for high quality products with authentic, high end scents. You have a large following of repeat buyers. They trust you are after the same goal and trust your decisions. If you say Rose is best served in a cream for these reasons, I don't imagine too many folks would disagree.
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