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(09-05-2016, 08:20 PM)Hobbyist Wrote: Can someone tell me how the backbone of the two band compares to the Envy White? The Envy had had too much for me so I sold it. I am buying one from Elite but trying to decide on the knot. I want softeness and moderate backbone while still spaying well. The option says 2 band silvertip or 3 band silvertip when I select a brush, but I think those are the same as the manchurian knots he offers right?

Let me say this. I was steered away from the Envy White based on the amount of backbone I heard it had. I can't speak for them but I have heard many folks that have Bobs Manchurian White and the Envy White and they said the Manchurian white was a softer brush than the Envy White. It's just different.

Let me ask you a question. Do you have any experience with Thater or Shavemac 2-bands? This Manchurian white would be in that category of softness while still maintaining solid backbone. You can set that just they way you would your favorite 2-band. I have three 26mm, two of them set at 51mm and one at 50mm and they splay nicely with good backbone. These are incredible knots and I can't imagine them being uncomfortable even if you could set them as low as 48 because they have zero scratch and no pokeyness.

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#22
(09-06-2016, 07:29 PM)Bob Quinn Wrote:
(09-05-2016, 08:20 PM)Hobbyist Wrote: Can someone tell me how the backbone of the two band compares to the Envy White?  The Envy had had too much for me so I sold it. I am buying one from Elite but trying to decide on the knot. I want softeness and moderate backbone while still spaying well. The option says 2 band silvertip or 3 band silvertip when I select a brush, but I think those are the same as the manchurian knots he offers right?

The knots referenced in my product listings are my standard knots (comparable to TGN knots).  I only have a limited number of the Manchurian White (2-band) and High Mountain White (3-band) knots and they are listed within the Premium Knots category.

If you are interested in a handle with Premium knot, you can select the "Handle Only" option and then select the knot of your choice.

In regards to backbone, the 2-band knots will have more backbone than the 3-band and both will have very soft tips.  As for the ability for the knot to splay, that can be accommodated by increasing the size of the socket that holds the knot, increasing the loft or both.

Bob

Thank you Bob. Now I just need to pick one out.
#23
(09-06-2016, 08:32 PM)SCShaver Wrote:
(09-05-2016, 08:20 PM)Hobbyist Wrote: Can someone tell me how the backbone of the two band compares to the Envy White?  The Envy had had too much for me so I sold it. I am buying one from Elite but trying to decide on the knot. I want softeness and moderate backbone while still spaying well. The option says 2 band silvertip or 3 band silvertip when I select a brush, but I think those are the same as the manchurian knots he offers right?

Let me say this. I was steered away from the Envy White based on the amount of backbone I heard it had. I can't speak for them but I have heard many folks that have Bobs Manchurian White and the Envy White and they said the Manchurian white was a softer brush than the Envy White. It's just different.

Let me ask you a question. Do you have any experience with Thater or Shavemac 2-bands? This Manchurian white would be in that category of softness while still maintaining solid backbone. You can set that just they way you would your favorite 2-band. I have three 26mm, two of them set at 51mm and one at 50mm and they splay nicely with good backbone. These are incredible knots and I can't imagine them being uncomfortable even if you could set them as low as 48 because they have zero scratch and no pokeyness.

I have owned a Thater 3 band silvertip but not a 2 band. I loved the Thater but could stand for a touch more backbone, which I figured a lower loft might fix. I bought my Whipped Dog and had the loft set to 51-52 on the 24mm knot and it's a little more backbone than the 26mm Thater.

The only 2 band I have used is the Envy White.

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#24

Elite Razor
Roswell, GA
(09-07-2016, 12:03 AM)Hobbyist Wrote:
(09-06-2016, 08:32 PM)SCShaver Wrote:
(09-05-2016, 08:20 PM)Hobbyist Wrote: Can someone tell me how the backbone of the two band compares to the Envy White?  The Envy had had too much for me so I sold it. I am buying one from Elite but trying to decide on the knot. I want softeness and moderate backbone while still spaying well. The option says 2 band silvertip or 3 band silvertip when I select a brush, but I think those are the same as the manchurian knots he offers right?

Let me say this. I was steered away from the Envy White based on the amount of backbone I heard it had. I can't speak for them but I have heard many folks that have Bobs Manchurian White and the Envy White and they said the Manchurian white was a softer brush than the Envy White. It's just different.

Let me ask you a question. Do you have any experience with Thater or Shavemac 2-bands? This Manchurian white would be in that category of softness while still maintaining solid backbone. You can set that just they way you would your favorite 2-band. I have three 26mm, two of them set at 51mm and one at 50mm and they splay nicely with good backbone. These are incredible knots and I can't imagine them being uncomfortable even if you could set them as low as 48 because they have zero scratch and no pokeyness.

I have owned a Thater 3 band silvertip but not a 2 band. I loved the Thater but could stand for a touch more backbone, which I figured a lower loft might fix. I bought my Whipped Dog and had the loft set to 51-52 on the 24mm knot and it's a little more backbone than the 26mm Thater.

The only 2 band I have used is the Envy White.

Both the Manchurian White 2-band and High Mountain White 3-band have been compared favorably to Thater, as well as Shavemac knots.

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#25

Member
Austin, TX
I posted this in the September arrivals thread but wanted to include here in the merchant thread for future reference as well.

I received this brush yesterday from Bob Quinn at Elite Razor.

The handle is poplar from an old train station in Acworth, GA. Over 175 years old, you can almost feel the history.

It is beautiful to see with a subtle grain and silky smooth finish.

Bob, included a signed certificate of authenticity as well as additional information on the wood itself as well as specifically the train station from which it was reclaimed.

I requested the premium 2-band 24mm manchurian and couldn't be more pleased the craftsmanship.

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Very well done Bob and thanks for such a quick turn!

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#26
(09-08-2016, 08:14 PM)kwsher Wrote: I posted this in the September arrivals thread but wanted to include here in the merchant thread for future reference as well.

I received this brush yesterday from Bob Quinn at Elite Razor.

The handle is poplar from an old train station in Acworth, GA. Over 175 years old, you can almost feel the history.

It is beautiful to see with a subtle grain and silky smooth finish.

Bob, included a signed certificate of authenticity as well as additional information on the wood itself as well as specifically the train station from which it was reclaimed.

I requested the premium 2-band 24mm manchurian and couldn't be more pleased the craftsmanship.

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Very well done Bob and thanks for such a quick turn!

I'd be interested to hear what your thoughts are on the knot.

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#27

Member
Austin, TX
(09-08-2016, 08:43 PM)SCShaver Wrote: I'd be interested to hear what your thoughts are on the knot.
Sure thing. I plan on using it tomorrow morning in fact and will report back with thoughts.

Visually looks like it is relatively dense but will have good flow through.

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#28

Elite Razor
Roswell, GA
I have just received a shipment of the High Mountain and Manchurian White knots.  I have both knots in 24, 26 and 28mm in both Bulb and Fan shape.  They are all listed on my site under Premium knots in the Shaving Brushes category.

If you would like me to set one of these knots into one of my handles, please select the handle only option for the brush, select the knot of your choice and let me know your preferred loft.  The knots are also available individually.

I have also completed a few new brush and razor handles.  Shown below are just a few of the new additions to my site at www.eliterazor.com.

Thuya Burl - The Thuya tree is a short scrub-like conifer indigenous to Morocco. The exceptional natural patterns in the grain are only found in the root of the tree. The color is golden brown to red, highly figured with small eye clusters of tight burls.  It is relatively rare.  This wood has been coveted since Roman times for woodworking and furniture and in modern times extracts from the tree are used in both homeopathy and aromatherapy.
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Spalted Tamarind - Spalted Tamarind is native to tropical Africa, the tree grows wild throughout the Sudan and was so long ago introduced into India that it often reported as indigenous there.  The excellent wood is known for its dramatic and unpredictable figuring and black-line spalting.  The colors include tan, rose and light yellow accented by the darker brown and black spalting lines.  Finished products are quite dramatic.  Some African tribes venerate the Tamarind tree as sacred. To certain Burmese, the tree represents the dwelling-place of the rain god and some hold the belief that the tree raises the temperature in its immediate vicinity. Hindus may marry a Tamarind tree to a Mango tree before eating the fruits of the latter. In Nyasaland, Tamarind bark soaked with corn is given to domestic fowl in the belief that, if they stray or are stolen, it will cause them to return home. In Malaysia, a little Tamarind and coconut milk is placed in the mouth of an infant at birth, and the bark and fruit are given to elephants to make them wise.
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Irish Bog Oak - The boglands of Ireland are a vast living treasure trove for precious and unique material.  Bog wood, more ancient than the pyramids of Egypt, has been naturally preserved, and has lain hidden for over 5,000 years.  Radiocarbon dating at Queen’s University, Belfast confirms: “In providing dates along with sculptured wood, you can safely say, in the case of bog oak, the date of growth of the wood is between 3300 and 3600 BC”.  There are many folk legends surrounding the old bog sites of Ireland, especially during the hours of darkness: it was, and perhaps still is, a commonly held belief that when the mist enveloped the bog and the blue flame (from static electricity), danced across the surface at dusk, it was a sure indication that “the little” people were cooking their supper.
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As always, thanks for looking,

Bob

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#29

Elite Razor
Roswell, GA
The brush shown below may be the finest example of Waterfall Bubinga I have ever had the pleasure to work.  I had no idea when I started turning this piece of the beautiful figure and depth of grain that was hiding inside.  It was just listed and is available at www.eliterazor.com

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As always, thanks for looking,

Bob

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#30

Member
Detroit
^Wow! That is a stunning handle!
- Jeff


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