#51

That Bald Guy with the Big Beard
Bishop, CA
(06-24-2017, 07:41 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(06-24-2017, 03:44 PM)BadDad Wrote: Interesting...I guess, people aren't allowed to have a comment about a merchant's customer service without having any experience with their product. Well, that sure is going to limit and eliminate a lot of good discussion on this and every other forum out there...

llalm and bambrit would both of you please accept my least humble and sincere apology for forming and vocalizing an opinion about customer service without first asking permission? I promise, it will happen again. Over and over...

primotenore I could not possibly agree more.

people should be allowed to have a point of view.

I don't own a wolfman razor nor have I shaved with one before, but I'm still of the opinion that James' operation could be ran way more efficiently to serve more customers in a better manner.

for example, emailing James to order a new guerilla razor.... why? why not have a button on the wolfman site that allows you to submit the order for the guerilla and then have the software run a report of email you at the end of the day with all of the orders, or something along those lines...

Or even something as simple as an automatic reply that provides an approximate wait time for your order and an option to continue or decline followed by an invoice and an excepted shipping date. To my admittedly computer illiterate mind, that would seem like a simple calendar and email protocol solution.

It doesn't take a lot to communicate with customers...


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#52

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
(06-24-2017, 07:46 PM)BadDad Wrote:
(06-24-2017, 07:41 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote:
(06-24-2017, 03:44 PM)BadDad Wrote: Interesting...I guess, people aren't allowed to have a comment about a merchant's customer service without having any experience with their product. Well, that sure is going to limit and eliminate a lot of good discussion on this and every other forum out there...

llalm and bambrit would both of you please accept my least humble and sincere apology for forming and vocalizing an opinion about customer service without first asking permission? I promise, it will happen again. Over and over...

primotenore I could not possibly agree more.

people should be allowed to have a point of view.

I don't own a wolfman razor nor have I shaved with one before, but I'm still of the opinion that James' operation could be ran way more efficiently to serve more customers in a better manner.

for example, emailing James to order a new guerilla razor....  why?  why not have a button on the wolfman site that allows you to submit the order for the guerilla and then have the software run a report of email you at the end of the day with all of the orders, or something along those lines...

Or even something as simple as an automatic reply that provides an approximate wait time for your order and an option to continue or decline followed by an invoice and an excepted shipping date. To my admittedly computer illiterate mind, that would seem like a simple calendar and email protocol solution.

It doesn't take a lot to communicate with customers...


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I don't know if James has an email auto responder (I haven't emailed him in years), but that would go a long way in at least acknowledging customer inquires, imho.


the other stuff you mentioned can get tricky because it should be coded in a way to protect customer data.

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#53

Restitutor Orbis
(06-24-2017, 12:47 PM)primotenore Wrote:
(06-23-2017, 11:31 PM)Aurelian28 Wrote:
(06-23-2017, 04:25 PM)surfshaver Wrote: Thanks for the input!  This discussion makes me want to try a Blackbird, as well as a Timeless.  Guess I need to start saving up...!

You might like it, you never know. Expanding our horizons a bit can also help us not to generalize and jump into conclusions about other people's technique and experience just because they didn't like what we liked.

Wolfmans are beautiful razors but they are not the Holy Grail or the Excalibur that must only be bestowed upon the worthy. It's a razor.
Either it works for an individual or not just like any other razors.

Like Max, I also enjoy my BlackBird a lot more. I also enjoyed the Timeless, ATT S1, Stealth Slants, Black Mamba, Baby Smooth, the iKon 102, X3 and the Rockwell 6s.

I didn't care much for the DE89, Merkur 34c, and the Muhle Jet.

As for customer service, I can't say anything about that. Some merchants are selective who to be nice to and who to not care much about, just like a few other merchants. It's human nature I suppose.

Successful merchants treat every customer the same. Not just a chosen few.

You hit the nail on the head there.

When someone is clever at picking who to be extra nice to, it does help the business but that can only go so far. Eventually folks will scratch thier heads, see the situation for how it really is, and wonder, something isn't right. What's going on here.

Fanboys as I have seen time and time again will be eager to defend and try to silence you but it's of no consquence. Their experience is their own, and ours is our own. You can't bully and shout your way out of every discussion.

Anyway I think everyone here has as much right as to participate and express their opinions. It's a forum, not some elite club.

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(This post was last modified: 06-24-2017, 11:02 PM by bambrit.)
(06-24-2017, 06:26 PM)TONE Shaves Wrote: llalm and bambrit hope you are both doing well and I hope you have both had great experiences with James at Wolfman as I have had in the past myself.  This is actually why I started this thread asking about other peoples experiences with Wolfman's communication, as I am looking to replace a treasured WR1/H7 in copper that was lost and have not been able to receive communication from James whatsoever when he used to communicate with me effortlessly.  I have no ill-feelings towards James at all, he's been very nice to me.  I, as a customer, especially as a customer who has given him business already, am just desiring 'communication'.

I think that BadDad (Chris) is just sharing his frustration with what he feels is a strong lack of common ethics that should always be shown to an interested customer if they are inquiring about your products.  I think this is his frustration because he hears about it quite a bit regarding this particular vendor, even though he's never used a Wolfman razor. 

For example, If I walked onto a car lot (let's say BMW; those have been my vehicles of choice for many years now and I really love BMW's), so if I walked on to the BMW car lot wanting to purchase one of these cars, and the sales people kept telling me we'll be right with you, but never came back to help me no matter how many times I visited any of the dealerships, but yet I saw them helping other people every time, and then I shared this information with you;  and then you heard from many other people that this happens to them as well, you yourselves would think twice about wanting to deal with BMW and you would voice your disappointment and opinion to people about the lack of customer service given by BMW even if you yourself never experienced it directly.
Chris is a great guy and I think that's all he is sharing in regards to Wolfman. Shy

Your communication is valid and motives sincere. You had dealing with James before, speak well of him and I agree that a reply is reasonable but can't be expected, nor a replacement for your lost implement ensured. James is free to conduct his business as he solely wishes and doesn't owe anyone an explanation or justification for his conduct. You can keep pursuing things and only hope that he gets the time to reply and satisfy your request one day, or may decide to just simply move-on.

My ex was once regarded personal friends with Madonna before and at the very height of her fame in the 80's. One time it was all pre-arranged that they would hang out back at Madonna's Hotel suite after her evenings concert in Toronto. After fighting thru a wall of Madonna fans outside of the hotel, being screened by front-desk manager and separately by Madonna's security detail in the lobby, security escorted in the Elevator because only they could access Madonna's floor, my ex was very politely turned away by Madonna's personal bodyguard outside her hotel suite door because Madonna had just informed him minutes earlier that she was exhausted, was retiring for the evening and NO ONE was to disturb her.

Moral of the story, was my ex disappointed? sure, but completely understanding of her friend's plight at the height of her fame and how everyone, including her wanted a piece of Madonna's time and energy. That was also the last time they ever connected but only because my ex moved-on and concluded that despite Madonna's best intentions, remaining personal friends from that point forward was difficult and not likely attainable.
#55
(06-24-2017, 10:43 PM)bambrit Wrote:
(06-24-2017, 06:26 PM)TONE Shaves Wrote: llalm and bambrit hope you are both doing well and I hope you have both had great experiences with James at Wolfman as I have had in the past myself.  This is actually why I started this thread asking about other peoples experiences with Wolfman's communication, as I am looking to replace a treasured WR1/H7 in copper that was lost and have not been able to receive communication from James whatsoever when he used to communicate with me effortlessly.  I have no ill-feelings towards James at all, he's been very nice to me.  I, as a customer, especially as a customer who has given him business already, am just desiring 'communication'.

I think that BadDad (Chris) is just sharing his frustration with what he feels is a strong lack of common ethics that should always be shown to an interested customer if they are inquiring about your products.  I think this is his frustration because he hears about it quite a bit regarding this particular vendor, even though he's never used a Wolfman razor. 

For example, If I walked onto a car lot (let's say BMW; those have been my vehicles of choice for many years now and I really love BMW's), so if I walked on to the BMW car lot wanting to purchase one of these cars, and the sales people kept telling me we'll be right with you, but never came back to help me no matter how many times I visited any of the dealerships, but yet I saw them helping other people every time, and then I shared this information with you;  and then you heard from many other people that this happens to them as well, you yourselves would think twice about wanting to deal with BMW and you would voice your disappointment and opinion to people about the lack of customer service given by BMW even if you yourself never experienced it directly.
Chris is a great guy and I think that's all he is sharing in regards to Wolfman. Shy

Your communication is valid and motives sincere. You had dealing with James before, speak well of him and I agree that a reply is reasonable but can't be expected, nor a replacement for your lost implement ensured. James is free to conduct his business as he solely wishes and doesn't owe anyone an explanation or justification for his conduct. You can keep pursuing things and only hope that he gets the time to reply and satisfy your request one day, or may decide to just simply move-on.

My ex was once regarded personal friends with Madonna before and at the very height of her fame in the 80's. One time it was all pre-arranged that they would hang out back at Madonna's Hotel suite after her evenings concert in Toronto.  After fighting thru a wall of Madonna fans outside of the hotel, being screened by front-desk manager and separately by Madonna's security detail in the lobby, security escorted in the Elevator because only they could access Madonna's floor, my ex was very politely turned away by Madonna's personal bodyguard outside her hotel suite door because Madonna had just informed him minutes earlier that she was exhausted, was retiring for the evening and NO ONE was to disturb her.

Moral of the story, was my ex disappointed? sure, but completely understanding of her friend's plight at the height of her fame and how everyone, including her wanted a piece of Madonna's time and energy. That was also the last time they ever connected but only because my ex moved-on and concluded that despite Madonna's best intentions, remaining personal friends from that point forward was difficult and not likely attainable.

Oh Jesus Christ LMMFAO. Yes, James is at that level...........only in your head I guess.
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(This post was last modified: 06-24-2017, 11:39 PM by EFDan.)
Here is the problem with your post: James isn't some pop star with millions of fans, nor is he ill in front of his computer run machine. At least Madonna had the sense to send out her bodyguard to inform your ex. Sending a real person to inform folks of the situation is harder than typing an email.

Try again.

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(This post was last modified: 06-25-2017, 12:24 AM by bambrit.)
(06-24-2017, 11:29 PM)EFDan Wrote: Here is the problem with your post:  James isn't some pop star with millions of fans, nor is he ill in front of his computer run machine.
Try again.
Here's the problem with your post: Not that I suggested he was but you don't know that James isn't a pop star with millions of fans, ill in front of his computer or something more realistic like prioritizes his time with his family first.

Whatever his choices, James-Wolfman doesn't owe anyone an explanation for how he manages his time, the level of customer service as certain soap Artisans provide or hurt anyone's feelings by not acknowledging them. If he doesn't meet anyone's expectations, they can move-on, No harm, No foul.

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(This post was last modified: 06-25-2017, 01:03 AM by EFDan.)
(06-25-2017, 12:21 AM)bambrit Wrote:
(06-24-2017, 11:29 PM)EFDan Wrote: Here is the problem with your post:  James isn't some pop star with millions of fans, nor is he ill in front of his computer run machine.
Try again.

Here's the problem with your post: Not that I suggested he was but you don't know that James isn't a pop star with millions of fans, ill in front of his computer
or something more realistic like prioritizes his time with his family first.

Whatever his choices, James-Wolfman doesn't owe anyone an explanation for how he manages his time, the level of customer service as certain soap Artisans provide or hurt anyone's feelings by not acknowledging them. If he doesn't meet anyone's expectations, they can move-on, No harm, No foul.

No I do know that, and I didn't give the example YOU did lol, and he isn't. If he has shat customer service and favors certain people on his, "List," then that is on him. Don't care either way since I don't have to deal with him, but I have heard enough to not want to anyway. Amazon has a great selection of knee pads for you.

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#59

Member
Woodstock, VT
I don't know of another shave forum with such an open exchange between members. I love it. One of the reasons this board is growing. Our friends in Philly & San Diego set it up right.

I contributed to this thread also but maybe it's a good time to wrap this one up. So many other great topics out there we can share about. Like that Gem Sabre! Happy2

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(This post was last modified: 06-25-2017, 01:26 AM by EFDan.)
(06-25-2017, 01:07 AM)vtmax Wrote: I don't know of another shave forum with such an open exchange between members. I love it. One of the reasons this board is growing. Our friends in Philly & San Diego set it up right.

I contributed to this thread also but maybe it's a good time to wrap this one up. So many other great topics out there we can share about. Like that Gem Sabre! Happy2
Works for me. Smile

I know blackland will get back to people that aren't satisfied though.

Shane is kinda like Madonna, but not quite there yet to where he doesn't have to email folks though. I'll give it a few more weeks.

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