(This post was last modified: 06-19-2023, 05:21 AM by andrewjs18.)
(06-18-2023, 04:16 AM)LOOT Wrote:(06-18-2023, 04:07 AM)ExtraProtein Wrote:The glaring difference between Ebay and DFS BST is, although discouraged, at DFS the Merchants of Chaos can, and do, talk members into sending Payment via Friends and Family. From there you have zero recourse and DFS seems to lay the blame entirely at the feet of the buyer. Not my sandbox, not my rules. Good thing too.(06-18-2023, 02:13 AM)AlanH81 Wrote: 100 % right I agreejesseix C’mon Jess we couldn’t have that now could we? What I can’t ever understand is why these people don’t do their dirt like a normal person on eBay?
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(06-19-2023, 03:09 AM)BBS Wrote:(06-19-2023, 02:54 AM)LOOT Wrote:(06-18-2023, 06:23 AM)Marko Wrote: So how is it DFS’ fault that a bst buyer gets burned and has no recourse because he went friends and family despite multiple warnings by DFS not to do that? We take no pleasure in seeing people get burned but seriously?? On the other point as to why the seller skates? I don’t think they should
(06-18-2023, 06:23 AM)Marko Wrote: So how is it DFS’ fault that a bst buyer gets burned and has no recourse because he went friends and family despite multiple warnings by DFS not to do that? We take no pleasure in seeing people get burned but seriously?? On the other point as to why the seller skates? I don’t think they should
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I didn't say it was DFS' fault. If I did, point it out. What i said was DFS "seems" to lay blame solely at the feet of the buyer. I was specifically referencing your post in the closed thread. As I recall, it was only 4 sentences or so. The first generic, the last 3 pointing out buyer beware, etc. Etc. I don't think you even mentioned the deplorable behavior of the seller....and by letting the seller remain a member in good standing, the admin team gives tacit approval. Just my opinion. Maybe I read too much into your post.
I have no skin in the game but it sounds like you and I are on the same page tho on the seller skating.
Dishonesty is just a pet peeve of mine.
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Well it is a he said, she said type of thing for mods to make a decision on. They can't prove one way or the other when the payment and shipping info is outside the forum. Best you can do in this case is have a seller and buyer complaint profile attachment that everyone can see. You make a complaint it is put on your profile and details of it. Same with the seller. Let users see that and make their own decision if they want to do business with the user account.
here's the thing - I don't read PMs (I could, if I wanted, but I have much better things to do with my free time) so unless someone alerts us that someone is asking/demanding for payments as F&F vs the proper methods on paypal, we won't know. If we see it in the threads, we'll usually move them to a specific bst fix section for the OP to fix before we'll move it back to being publicly viewable. We have levied warnings & temporary bans for people repeatedly doing this, including 1 temporary bst ban recently. The one caveat to the PM stuff is when someone replies to the automated forum alert about having a new private message as that email address they're replying to gets forwarded to me. This is how the most recent person caught a temporary bst ban...
honestly though, I'm not sure how many times we need to tell people to STOP PAYING FOR ITEMS VIA F&F on paypal! when they get ripped off, and someone eventually does, they want us to try to fix their mistakes that they knew was a mistake from the start and we explicitly state in our bst rules that transactions are between the buyer and seller and NOT DFS.
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