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(11-27-2024, 10:13 PM)DesertIguana Wrote: Friend worked & retired from US Steel in Pennsylvania, Chinese paid them US Steel Executives to teach their people to make steel. So part of blame for Chinese Steel is the upper management of US Steel, who did not see writing on wall. US Steel taught Chinese to make steel, got paid by China to do it.I’m assuming typo and you meant younger generations and while it’s true that many of the younger people are reluctant to do dangerous, hard and dirty work away from home there are still those who work in mining, logging, fishing, construction, oilfield and other tough jobs. Not everything we have is or can be made overseas.
Koreans also are making Steel, Mexico also. The manufacture of Steel is a global business.
Japan has been making steel & fine knives, swords since before 1900.
Not sure the under generations of Americans would like doing the hard, dangerous work in a Steel Mill in 2024.
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(02-27-2025, 02:29 AM)Marko Wrote:(11-27-2024, 10:13 PM)DesertIguana Wrote: Friend worked & retired from US Steel in Pennsylvania, Chinese paid them US Steel Executives to teach their people to make steel. So part of blame for Chinese Steel is the upper management of US Steel, who did not see writing on wall. US Steel taught Chinese to make steel, got paid by China to do it.I’m assuming typo and you meant younger generations and while it’s true that many of the younger people are reluctant to do dangerous, hard and dirty work away from home there are still those who work in mining, logging, fishing, construction, oilfield and other tough jobs. Not everything we have is or can be made overseas.
Koreans also are making Steel, Mexico also. The manufacture of Steel is a global business.
Japan has been making steel & fine knives, swords since before 1900.
Not sure the under generations of Americans would like doing the hard, dangerous work in a Steel Mill in 2024.
Well many of the YOUNGER GENERATION are like the kid I encountered. Was looking for something at Wal-Mart, a young guy trying to help me seemsed to have some customer service skills. Seems too bright to be a clerk / Wal-Martin's as I call the people in the Blue Vests.
Thinking this guy was in early 20's I asked what is your out look five years down the road. He said he likes Wal-Mart, had no plans to leave or move up in the company. He at 27 live at home rent free, don't pay for food, is taken care of by mom & dad like he was in grade school. Admitted all he payed is my car payment, gas, and insurance. The rest of his earning is fun money.
New Generation of some of our future leaders I hope not.
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(02-27-2025, 04:00 AM)DesertIguana Wrote:I know there’s people like that out there. You won’t meet the other kind because they’re out working. My son is 30 now and he’s a mining engineer working at a gold mine in northern Ontario. Two week rotations in a camp. When he finished school he went to work as a hard rock miner underground fir 12 hour shifts. He managed to get on as a shaft miner before he could get signed in as an engineer in training. He’s a professional engineer now and doesn’t spend as much time underground as he used to. He likes it but they are chronically short handed because a lot of guys think mining is too dirty or too hard or they just don’t want to leave their cozy homes but you can’t paint them all with the same brush. There’s a lot of good, hardworking people out there young and old. Those Walmartins as you call them, sound like underachievers and you have to wonder what their parents were doing when they were young. Certainly not teaching strong values.(02-27-2025, 02:29 AM)Marko Wrote:(11-27-2024, 10:13 PM)DesertIguana Wrote: Friend worked & retired from US Steel in Pennsylvania, Chinese paid them US Steel Executives to teach their people to make steel. So part of blame for Chinese Steel is the upper management of US Steel, who did not see writing on wall. US Steel taught Chinese to make steel, got paid by China to do it.I’m assuming typo and you meant younger generations and while it’s true that many of the younger people are reluctant to do dangerous, hard and dirty work away from home there are still those who work in mining, logging, fishing, construction, oilfield and other tough jobs. Not everything we have is or can be made overseas.
Koreans also are making Steel, Mexico also. The manufacture of Steel is a global business.
Japan has been making steel & fine knives, swords since before 1900.
Not sure the under generations of Americans would like doing the hard, dangerous work in a Steel Mill in 2024.
Well many of the YOUNGER GENERATION are like the kid I encountered. Was looking for something at Wal-Mart, a young guy trying to help me seemsed to have some customer service skills. Seems too bright to be a clerk / Wal-Martin's as I call the people in the Blue Vests.
Thinking this guy was in early 20's I asked what is your out look five years down the road. He said he likes Wal-Mart, had no plans to leave or move up in the company. He at 27 live at home rent free, don't pay for food, is taken care of by mom & dad like he was in grade school. Admitted all he payed is my car payment, gas, and insurance. The rest of his earning is fun money.
New Generation of some of our future leaders I hope not.
Sorry for the rant. Now back to knock off razors
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(02-27-2025, 05:46 AM)Marko Wrote:(02-27-2025, 04:00 AM)DesertIguana Wrote:I know there’s people like that out there. You won’t meet the other kind because they’re out working. My son is 30 now and he’s a mining engineer working at a gold mine in northern Ontario. Two week rotations in a camp. When he finished school he went to work as a hard rock miner underground fir 12 hour shifts. He managed to get on as a shaft miner before he could get signed in as an engineer in training. He’s a professional engineer now and doesn’t spend as much time underground as he used to. He likes it but they are chronically short handed because a lot of guys think mining is too dirty or too hard or they just don’t want to leave their cozy homes but you can’t paint them all with the same brush. There’s a lot of good, hardworking people out there young and old. Those Walmartins as you call them, sound like underachievers and you have to wonder what their parents were doing when they were young. Certainly not teaching strong values.(02-27-2025, 02:29 AM)Marko Wrote: I’m assuming typo and you meant younger generations and while it’s true that many of the younger people are reluctant to do dangerous, hard and dirty work away from home there are still those who work in mining, logging, fishing, construction, oilfield and other tough jobs. Not everything we have is or can be made overseas.
Well many of the YOUNGER GENERATION are like the kid I encountered. Was looking for something at Wal-Mart, a young guy trying to help me seemsed to have some customer service skills. Seems too bright to be a clerk / Wal-Martin's as I call the people in the Blue Vests.
Thinking this guy was in early 20's I asked what is your out look five years down the road. He said he likes Wal-Mart, had no plans to leave or move up in the company. He at 27 live at home rent free, don't pay for food, is taken care of by mom & dad like he was in grade school. Admitted all he payed is my car payment, gas, and insurance. The rest of his earning is fun money.
New Generation of some of our future leaders I hope not.
Sorry for the rant. Now back to knock off razors
This is the problem with the “participation ribbon” generation. My generation, no way… you win or lose.
Mark, I know you are proud of your son and I’m delighted to hear about younger adults putting in the work to achieve success!
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Yes some are super stars, and others no even give of the light of small candle. But the question is how do we motivate those not movotated to be All They Can Be, or Try to bBe Something?
The other side of Coin is thank goodness some people are happy doing what I call routing Jobs, with out them the world could not function. Like the guy who just showed up in the DARK to pickup my Trash.
The other side of Coin is thank goodness some people are happy doing what I call routing Jobs, with out them the world could not function. Like the guy who just showed up in the DARK to pickup my Trash.
(02-27-2025, 02:24 PM)DesertIguana Wrote: Yes some are super stars, and others no even give of the light of small candle. But the question is how do we motivate those not movotated to be All They Can Be, or Try to bBe Something?
The other side of Coin is thank goodness some people are happy doing what I call routing Jobs, with out them the world could not function. Like the guy who just showed up in the DARK to pickup my Trash.
Amen brother. I’m retired now but when I was working it was pretty clear the company, and probably the world could be divided into givers and takers. Givers were always looking for ways to give, help improve the company, the family, the community, the country and the world - You know, leave things better for your having been there. Takers were just in it for what they could take for themselves. Problems arise when there’s more takers than givers.
“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness”. - Oscar Wilde
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