(06-20-2017, 09:09 PM)Marko Wrote: I guess I didn't really need it anyway, like how many awesome smelling soaps can one guy have?
Marko , there's actually a very easy math formula to answer your question:
# of soaps in your den + 1 = the answer
(06-20-2017, 10:49 PM)HoosierShave Wrote:(06-20-2017, 09:09 PM)Marko Wrote: I guess I didn't really need it anyway, like how many awesome smelling soaps can one guy have?
Marko , there's actually a very easy math formula to answer your question:
# of soaps in your den + 1 = the answer
Yes, or the classic response - "Gee, I don't know, how many awesome smelling soaps are there?"
I didn't really expect to get any although I was hopeful. I had emailed Mr. Soapery last week and he told me he was putting them up soon and he'd email me when he did (he didn't) so I was hopeful, however, once it was broadcast globally I figured realistically my chances of getting one had pretty much vanished. I've never had much luck in the flash sale concept.
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I finally decided yesterday not to even try to buy the release today. I've got 12 Chatillon Lux aftershaves (including DdT, which is awesome), and two Sudsery soaps, and ultimately decided I don't need them to be combined into one product. I can follow one with the other. Besides, with all the money I saved, I can buy another aftershave or soap to try from one vendor or the other.
--Scott
Yeah, sorry, that's the nature of the beast with a product that was not intended for a large-scale release, just leftovers. I'm sure Jonathan was just trying to do his best to make people happy, but this was his first foray into LE hype on the internet and collaborations. In fact, I don't think he'd ever done a limited edition, period.
(06-21-2017, 05:41 AM)hawns Wrote: Yeah, sorry, that's the nature of the beast with a product that was not intended for a large-scale release, just leftovers. I'm sure Jonathan was just trying to do his best to make people happy, but this was his first foray into LE hype on the internet and collaborations. In fact, I don't think he'd ever done a limited edition, period.
He had no idea of the drawing power of Chatillon Lux! I didn't really understand all the promotion of the tuesday 3;00 o'clock release. Was he seriously worried he wouldn't sell it all? There couldn't have been more than a dozen or so units leftover.
I have no idea how many units you normally plan for when you're doing a LE, whether its soap or post shave, but my thinking is that you have three main categories of people (customers) to satisfy. First group is the OCD with a medical need to get the LE (doctor's note available on request), second group seriously want to have the LE and the third group for whom the LE is a nice to have but not that big a deal. You should plan enough product to satisfy all of the first and second groups with some leftover for the third. Failure to do this ensures that the torches and pitch forks come out and the artisan might have to start altering their normal patterns of movement and consider disguises. Plastic surgery should be considered in extreme cases.
(06-21-2017, 02:35 PM)Marko Wrote:(06-21-2017, 05:41 AM)hawns Wrote: Yeah, sorry, that's the nature of the beast with a product that was not intended for a large-scale release, just leftovers. I'm sure Jonathan was just trying to do his best to make people happy, but this was his first foray into LE hype on the internet and collaborations. In fact, I don't think he'd ever done a limited edition, period.
He had no idea of the drawing power of Chatillon Lux! I didn't really understand all the promotion of the tuesday 3;00 o'clock release. Was he seriously worried he wouldn't sell it all? There couldn't have been more than a dozen or so units leftover.
I have no idea how many units you normally plan for when you're doing a LE, whether its soap or post shave, but my thinking is that you have three main categories of people (customers) to satisfy. First group is the OCD with a medical need to get the LE (doctor's note available on request), second group seriously want to have the LE and the third group for whom the LE is a nice to have but not that big a deal. You should plan enough product to satisfy all of the first and second groups with some leftover for the third. Failure to do this ensures that the torches and pitch forks come out and the artisan might have to start altering their normal patterns of movement and consider disguises. Plastic surgery should be considered in extreme cases.
In talking with Jonathan at the STL meet, I honestly don't think he knows about the sometimes fanatic draw to limited editions that we have. I'm not sure he thought he would be a huge hit.
But also this was the third release of the soap. He had already taken this to Maggards, then to the STL meet, and the web release was the final stop. No telling how many were made up front.
But I liked your story nonetheless.
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(06-21-2017, 02:35 PM)Marko Wrote:(06-21-2017, 05:41 AM)hawns Wrote: Yeah, sorry, that's the nature of the beast with a product that was not intended for a large-scale release, just leftovers. I'm sure Jonathan was just trying to do his best to make people happy, but this was his first foray into LE hype on the internet and collaborations. In fact, I don't think he'd ever done a limited edition, period.
He had no idea of the drawing power of Chatillon Lux! I didn't really understand all the promotion of the tuesday 3;00 o'clock release. Was he seriously worried he wouldn't sell it all? There couldn't have been more than a dozen or so units leftover.
I have no idea how many units you normally plan for when you're doing a LE, whether its soap or post shave, but my thinking is that you have three main categories of people (customers) to satisfy. First group is the OCD with a medical need to get the LE (doctor's note available on request), second group seriously want to have the LE and the third group for whom the LE is a nice to have but not that big a deal. You should plan enough product to satisfy all of the first and second groups with some leftover for the third. Failure to do this ensures that the torches and pitch forks come out and the artisan might have to start altering their normal patterns of movement and consider disguises. Plastic surgery should be considered in extreme cases.
The soapmakers do all the planning. I let them run their business how they see fit. I can explain demand and sales trends, but it's up to them to decide how they would like to approach something like this.
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