CarbonShavingCo. New company & razor in the works....

I find it funny that some guys will drop $400+ on a Wolfman, which don’t get me wrong, I love mine, but will trash a razor at $299 when you haven’t even held it or tried it

Whoa! $299.99. Not in....

Yep, just got a .68 Gamechanger for $55 (seems nearly identical from what I can see in the pics). Peace out!


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I find it funny that some guys will drop $400+ on a Wolfman, which don’t get me wrong, I love mine, but will trash a razor at $299 when you haven’t even held it or tried it

I wouldn’t say I’m trashing it, but you have to admit a wolfman is a much safer investment. You can get your money back, plus if desired in less than 30 min on bst.

This razor may not fetch half it’s asking price if you decide it’s not for you....

No offense intended in my post and I too hate to see anyone fail. I know a lot of people don’t do forums so hopefully those people are buying the razor. Without knowing much about this new company or their offering, they may have priced themselves out of the mainstream shave market.

Raw Shaving Razors came out of nowhere not too long ago but those razors “looked” like high end razors. This one does not (at least to me).

I don’t disagree that a Wolfman, if you can get one, is a safer bet. All the artisan razors started out as unknown, and have put a lot of time and money in developing a new product. Some use Kickstarter to get funds, some don’t but there are now 4 pages of “Its not worth it” and I don’t believe anyone has tried it. To me that is not good for our community as it discourages someone from trying to start a new brand.

If someone is going to start a new brand then maybe they should take heed to what price point people are looking at. Maybe start with a more reasonably priced razor and then move towards the expensive designs after they have established themselves in the market.

I don’t disagree that it’s at a price which blocks out a lot of people, but it’s not cheap to manufacture in the USA and use a quality material. It wasn’t that long ago that people were trashing the Paradigm 17-4 when it was first released and now it sells for double its original price.

I don’t disagree that a Wolfman, if you can get one, is a safer bet. All the artisan razors started out as unknown, and have put a lot of time and money in developing a new product. Some use Kickstarter to get funds, some don’t but there are now 4 pages of “Its not worth it” and I don’t believe anyone has tried it.  To me that is not good for our community as it discourages someone from trying to start a new brand.

On the contrary, I think it is good for the community. It will force newcomers to make sure they are offering something unique for the price to attract early adopters attention.

Here, a newcomer is asking more than what an average high-end SS razor goes for (~$220) but with a bad finish (which they tried to market as 'character'), and not so attractive looking handle (and no handle options, afaik). If I try to think about the other razors that started with a $200+ price point - Charcoal goods - had unique looks, less weight; RAW shaving had those luxury packaging offers, high polish, paradigm was released through bullgoose/shavenook which guarantees early adoption. Nobody knows how it shaves - so early adopters (who I bet already have other great razors) have to be convinced by something.


It is like a new soapmaker coming up with an average presentation and a very basic lime scented soap and ask us to pay $30. It might be the best soap ever, but what would convince someone to give it a shot? Same goes for this razor, this might be the best razor ever for some folks, flat bottom tech is the favorite of many shavers, but what is it offering to attract buyers? Nothing for me, so far.

So yes, considering price, looks, handles, and NO information regarding how it shaves, not worth it at this point.

... All the artisan razors started out as unknown, and have put a lot of time and money in developing a new product. Some use Kickstarter to get funds, some don’t but there are now 4 pages of “Its not worth it” and I don’t believe anyone has tried it.  To me that is not good for our community as it discourages someone from trying to start a new brand.

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On the contrary, I think it is good for the community. It will force newcomers to make sure they are offering something unique for the price to attract early adopters attention.

Here, a newcomer is asking more than what an average high-end SS razor goes for (~$220) but with a bad finish (which they tried to market as 'character'), and not so attractive looking handle (and no handle options, afaik). If I try to think about the other razors that started with a $200+ price point - Charcoal goods - had unique looks, less weight; RAW shaving had those luxury packaging offers, high polish, paradigm was released through bullgoose/shavenook which guarantees early adoption. Nobody knows how it shaves - so early adopters (who I bet already have other great razors) have to be convinced by something.


It is like a new soapmaker coming up with an average presentation and a very basic lime scented soap and ask us to pay $30. It might be the best soap ever, but what would convince someone to give it a shot? Same goes for this razor, this might be the best razor ever for some folks, flat bottom tech is the favorite of many shavers, but what is it offering to attract buyers? Nothing for me, so far.

So yes, considering price, looks, handles, and NO information regarding how it shaves, not worth it at this point.

I also think these pages are good for the community, and for the reasons @"iamsms" described.  It doesn't sound like Carbon Shaving involved members of this or other forums in the product development.  So today's launch is somewhat like walking up to a woman you never met and asking if she'd like to have dinner with you.  No prep.  No dice. Perhaps future artisans will think about that.  

At any rate, the key idea IMO is "not worth it at this point".  Down the road?  We'll see.

I like in the description where it states-

High Polish Finish - Some machine marks are visible. Some scratches also exist, especially when magnified. We call these marks "character", these marks are unique to each safety razor.

That was pretty funny to me when I read it. I don’t need any “character” in my High Polished Finishes, definitely not at that price point.

what's the point in a high polish finish if there's machine marks and scratches that are visible?!?!?!

me, personally, I like the machined look in razors (love it on my blackbird), but if I was buying something that was labeled as 'high polish finish', I'd expect as much.....especially for $300.